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Ok i used to play on a Blader back on olympus during the 80 cap...before euros and all that jazz. I stopped cause there were to many bots but im thinking about playing him again cause i miss my blader so a couple questions.

i only got to lvl 52 on him so i have room to improve.

I think i put about 1o point into int too...


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1. Whats the highest book of Snowshield i should need?
2. Is force really worth sacrificing light for and if so to what degree would i have to balance out ice/force to get the best out of both with 90fire and 90Bich
3. How is a bladers tanking ability VS Euros. Does it hold up in PvP.
4. How useful are the new skillz like the -Sheild+Damage buff and the New Chains and KD/Stab
5. Will this build still hold up at the cap or am i wasting my time.
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XemnasXD wrote:1. Whats the highest book of Snowshield i should need?
2. Is force really worth sacrificing light for and if so to what degree would i have to balance out ice/force to get the best out of both with 90fire and 90Bich
3. How is a bladers tanking ability VS Euros. Does it hold up in PvP.
4. How useful are the new skillz like the -Sheild+Damage buff and the New Chains and KD/Stab
5. Will this build still hold up at the cap or am i wasting my time.

1. As pure STR you just need about 20-23%.
2. If you like to help people, and also have an upper hand over other bladers in damage dealt, then u should go force, has heals and debuffs, debuffs are mostly used :) AND, If you go force, then go 90 force, or dont get it, coz its not worth it.. most people will resist your debuffs if they are not updated.
3. Best tanker against a euro = Blader, imho. It does the best a chinese can against a euro in pvp.
4. They are good, as always.
5. It will Hold up, bladers pawn at 90 cap, hehe.
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XemnasXD wrote:Ok i used to play on a Blader back on olympus during the 80 cap...before euros and all that jazz. I stopped cause there were to many bots but im thinking about playing him again cause i miss my blader so a couple questions.

i only got to lvl 52 on him so i have room to improve.

I think i put about 1o point into int too...


Anyway

1. Whats the highest book of Snowshield i should need?
2. Is force really worth sacrificing light for and if so to what degree would i have to balance out ice/force to get the best out of both with 90fire and 90Bich
3. How is a bladers tanking ability VS Euros. Does it hold up in PvP.
4. How useful are the new skillz like the -Sheild+Damage buff and the New Chains and KD/Stab
5. Will this build still hold up at the cap or am i wasting my time.


1. 20-23%
2. Force is definitely worth it. Light for pure STR is shit. You can buy speed, if you really need it, and you can raise parry very easily with white stats. Also, magical attack is not important either. Also, to get anything out of force, you need to have it at 90. 90 force gives you 80% division. Thus, you get two ways of inflicting division (with lightning chain & vital spot), two ways of inflicting impotent (lightning chain & vital spot) and two ways to get bleed on your adversary (flying stone smash, lightning chain). Your opponent will be constantly de-buffed. Recommended build: 90 fire / 90 bich / 90 force / 30 light.
3. Bladers hold up decently against euros, but a Distance shot / Dardedevil double crit kills anyone, even a blader. Ironwall still helps alot.
4. The new skills (flying stone and lightning chain) are priceless. Finally, with some crits, a blader can really kill fast. With force debuffs, chain & smash debuffs, the shield skill, and crit increasing stabs, you're bound to kill.
5. Bladers own at cap, IMO, but you're going to need a lot of patience for them. IMO, keep light until you get to 80+. Then, delevel and raise force. Force only becomes really useful at 70+ and shows its full potential at 90.
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Personally i've never been a fan of the Light tree i've always thought it was for ints. Im going to go with either a 90bich/90fire/90force/30Ice or a 90bich/90fire/72ice/48Light those seem to be the best options. Either way i definitely know i want shield, it seems like one build is more offensive while the other build is more defensive. I'm used to killing with crits and pot battles on a blader and i'd prefer defense as long as it can kill.

Can anyone tell me how the 72ice/48light does in PvP. I don't need to know if its better than the 90 force because chances are its not but i would like it know if it can still kill ppl without ot much trouble.

Also is stone smash better than Demon cut blade, like should i not consider lvling it. Apply the same logic to sword dance too.

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XemnasXD wrote:Personally i've never been a fan of the Light tree i've always thought it was for ints. Im going to go with either a 90bich/90fire/90force/30Ice or a 90bich/90fire/72ice/48Light those seem to be the best options. Either way i definitely know i want shield, it seems like one build is more offensive while the other build is more defensive. I'm used to killing with crits and pot battles on a blader and i'd prefer defense as long as it can kill.

Can anyone tell me how the 72ice/48light does in PvP. I don't need to know if its better than the 90 force because chances are its not but i would like it know if it can still kill ppl without ot much trouble.

Also is stone smash better than Demon cut blade, like should i not consider lvling it. Apply the same logic to sword dance too.

Thanks for the info so far.


72 ice should do quite well in PvP, compared to a max light build. By gaining physical defense from the cold tree, you can use the shield skill safer, given the fact that you compensate for the loss of defense. Without force, you definitely need crits to kill a STR. As for the INT, tank them while their snow is up, then kill while snow is down. Shouldn't be hard.
As for the STR, if you're satisfied with pot battles, it shouldn't be a problem. With some statuses and crits, you should get the job done, even without force.

As for the skills you mentioned, level Stone Smash by any means. It will be useful both for PvE (giants and party mobs) and, especially, for PvP. As for Demon cut and Sword dance, I'd strive to level them both. If you don't have the SP, stick to demon cut only. Sword dance AoE can help you lure mobs in faster and actually do a partially halfways good AoE grind (with AoE knockdown skills and two sword dance books).

EDIT: consider 30% snow if you have higher ice than 30. Alternatively, if 30% is too much, you can switch back to 25%.
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XemnasXD wrote:Personally i've never been a fan of the Light tree i've always thought it was for ints. Im going to go with either a 90bich/90fire/90force/30Ice or a 90bich/90fire/72ice/48Light those seem to be the best options. Either way i definitely know i want shield, it seems like one build is more offensive while the other build is more defensive. I'm used to killing with crits and pot battles on a blader and i'd prefer defense as long as it can kill.

Can anyone tell me how the 72ice/48light does in PvP. I don't need to know if its better than the 90 force because chances are its not but i would like it know if it can still kill ppl without ot much trouble.

Also is stone smash better than Demon cut blade, like should i not consider lvling it. Apply the same logic to sword dance too.

Thanks for the info so far.

nobody can tell you how a build plays in pvp, its how you use your char and how good your gear is, also good luck if ur not gonna get lightning to lvl, blade is already one of the slowest chinese lvlers and without lightning you are really hopeless, except if you wanna spend millions a day on drug's gl being broke and low lvl the next years.
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OK thanks alot stress you've been great help.

Hustler..not so much. I think anyone who chooses to grind a blader knows what they are getting into. Its always been my model and i think the mindset of all Bladers that you put in the most work to get the most reward.


I still haven't decided from what i gather both seem like equally good builds with different playing styles. I've never used force b4 so change is always good i'll decide after some trail and error and some number crunching
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1. Whats the highest book of Snowshield i should need?
2. Is force really worth sacrificing light for and if so to what degree would i have to balance out ice/force to get the best out of both with 90fire and 90Bich
3. How is a bladers tanking ability VS Euros. Does it hold up in PvP.
4. How useful are the new skillz like the -Sheild+Damage buff and the New Chains and KD/Stab
5. Will this build still hold up at the cap or am i wasting my time.



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I reckon a blader can handle 30% because of the high defense.
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LockStar. wrote:I reckon a blader can handle 30% because of the high defense.


Yes, that is, if you have high enough ice mastery for 30% snow shield.
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Stress wrote:
XemnasXD wrote:Ok i used to play on a Blader back on olympus during the 80 cap...before euros and all that jazz. I stopped cause there were to many bots but im thinking about playing him again cause i miss my blader so a couple questions.

i only got to lvl 52 on him so i have room to improve.

I think i put about 1o point into int too...


Anyway

1. Whats the highest book of Snowshield i should need?
2. Is force really worth sacrificing light for and if so to what degree would i have to balance out ice/force to get the best out of both with 90fire and 90Bich
3. How is a bladers tanking ability VS Euros. Does it hold up in PvP.
4. How useful are the new skillz like the -Sheild+Damage buff and the New Chains and KD/Stab
5. Will this build still hold up at the cap or am i wasting my time.


1. 20-23%
2. Force is definitely worth it. Light for pure STR is shit. You can buy speed, if you really need it, and you can raise parry very easily with white stats. Also, magical attack is not important either. Also, to get anything out of force, you need to have it at 90. 90 force gives you 80% division. Thus, you get two ways of inflicting division (with lightning chain & vital spot), two ways of inflicting impotent (lightning chain & vital spot) and two ways to get bleed on your adversary (flying stone smash, lightning chain). Your opponent will be constantly de-buffed. Recommended build: 90 fire / 90 bich / 90 force / 30 light.
3. Bladers hold up decently against euros, but a Distance shot / Dardedevil double crit kills anyone, even a blader. Ironwall still helps alot.
4. The new skills (flying stone and lightning chain) are priceless. Finally, with some crits, a blader can really kill fast. With force debuffs, chain & smash debuffs, the shield skill, and crit increasing stabs, you're bound to kill.
5. Bladers own at cap, IMO, but you're going to need a lot of patience for them. IMO, keep light until you get to 80+. Then, delevel and raise force. Force only becomes really useful at 70+ and shows its full potential at 90.


I have stated this several times in other topics why force on blader=fail imo
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you could do 90 ice 30 light or 72 ice 48 light
both work fine.
on babel most kuwaits have 90 ice as STR's, its impossible to kill them.
90 light is fail at life for str.
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Ragnorak, you're the only chinese who uses firewall, seriously. :D
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Stress wrote:Ragnorak, you're the only chinese who uses firewall, seriously. :D

would be more confusing if he were a euro using fire wall
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