So nobobdy uses force anymore?

[onewingedronin]

I've been trying to fit force into a build, but it seems like there is never any room. Right now I'm juggling between a Pure STR bow or glavie. I want to add force but I don't know if I'll get screwed over later. Any advice?

[rspaccio]

I have a bow on hold that I will eventually make into a 90 bow/fire/force w/ 30 light build. I don't see force being used much but I think at 100 cap the debuff will pwn.

[onewingedronin]

Back with my pure int Spear I used Force to res, heal, and the harmony circle lets you catch your breath after running from a mob.

Plus Vital Spot Attack has some interesting skills for PVP.

[phulshof]

Well, up to the 100 cap, it's always possible to create a build and fit in force. If however you want to go beyond the 100 cap, the only viable build I can see at this time is lightning/force nuker, with cold as sub as long as you can afford it.

[Vandal_Ares]

I think its pretty much useless with the euros around.

[Ningyotsukai-san]

I've seen bladers take advantage of force...bicheon 90, force 90, fire 90, light 30

good thing w/ bicheon and force together, your opponent (granted euro's not cleric sub) will have some form of debuff on them for the majority of the time.

Here's a link to BladeSkillz pvp video thread:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=93347&p=1217467#p1217467

[Hustlar]

i have the feeling these days everyone is trying force lmao, before almost nobody had it

[phulshof]

i have the feeling these days everyone is trying force lmao, before almost nobody had it

Possibly, although I've always had it on at least one of my characters (I used to have it on both my Chinese), even before vital spot was there. I was one of the only ressers at the first Yarkan fights on Troy (which got me in quite a lot of parties).

[Disconn3cted]

at 100 cap force gets stun so it would be useful for pure ints

[KillAndChill]

I'm level 90 bowman and I use force. My damage is really good as long as the person doesn't pill spam or use holy word, which is obvious.

If you want to add force into a pure str build, then you are going to have to give up light. As for me, I am hybrid str. I gave up fire because light increases my damage more than fire does (trust me, I've tried it, done the math, light is better for me).

[sowterg]

its usless cuz of euros? it gets vital spot skills. i bet when final cap comes out you can max weapon skill and force on a full str build and the vital spot will be good enough that you wont need imbue.

but the debuffs defintly have there place in pvp and there also usefull on champion,giant,party mobs and bosses.
plus with healing circle you more of a worrior healer kinda like a palidin or monk i think they call it, i supose as oposed to a full healer like a cleric.

[Qosta420]

I have a bow on hold that I will eventually make into a 90 bow/fire/force w/ 30 light build. I don't see force being used much but I think at 100 cap the debuff will pwn.

what will the 100cap debuff be?

[Ningyotsukai-san]

what will the 100cap debuff be?

at 100 cap force gets stun so it would be useful for pure ints

[DarthMaul]

i saw a you tube vid featuring a glaiver with 90 heuk, 90 fire, 90 force (vital spot series) 30 ice. crits like mad. though always drugged with drug of typhoon to compensate for the loss of movement speed because it has no lightning mastery.

[Belq]

im almost 90 pach/fire/force 30 ice.. awesome build