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Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:42 am
by Fyre
As of the current cap, what do you think is the strongest overall PvPing build? As in, if you could have one of the following characters and one only, and wanted to do well in anything, be it jobbing, dueling, whatever, which would you pick?
Remember, this is in OVERALL strength. But if you have the time, feel free to post on what you think wins in the following situations:
1v1/Dueling: ??
Small Scale Group PvP: ??
Large Scale Job War/PvP: ??
I listed all of the builds I know, but if there's some hidden, super strong build I forgot, let me know.
Remember this is for the 90cap we have now.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:54 am
by Troopa
id have to say 2h/cleric.
1v1 pvp = 2h/cleric or pure int s/s
small group = ???
large group = ???
Builds you forgot to mention:
-1h/cleric
-1h/warlock
-rogue/warlock
-rogue/bard
-warrior/rogue
-warrior/bard
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:51 am
by Fyre
Pretty scattered input so far. x.x
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:09 am
by Blinxx
warrior/cleric ( maybe 2h/cleric? )
a very versatile build that can withstand almost anything that's thrown at them, while dealing massive damages over and over.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:54 pm
by ahmedsabry
warrior/cleric and warrior/rogue hands down
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:02 pm
by Nitro
Warrior/Cleric ... not 2h/Cleric ... 2h without 1h is fail.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:19 pm
by the_wicked
Nitro wrote:Warrior/Cleric ... not 2h/Cleric ... 2h without 1h is fail.
i agree.
Almost no build can take it, esp if you ahve a set of robes and a set of armor. You've got two 45 second buffs that make you unkillable, as well as only 30secs to tank before skin is ready again.
2 crits will kill you.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:11 pm
by Nitro
the_wicked wrote:Nitro wrote:Warrior/Cleric ... not 2h/Cleric ... 2h without 1h is fail.
i agree.
Almost no build can take it, esp if you ahve a set of robes and a set of armor. You've got two 45 second buffs that make you unkillable, as well as only 30secs to tank before skin is ready again.
2 crits will kill you.
Light Armor > HA / Robes
... female looks better ^^
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:24 pm
by slimshady
how bout duel build of blade/glaive
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:19 pm
by _Scarlett_
Nitro wrote:the_wicked wrote:Nitro wrote:Warrior/Cleric ... not 2h/Cleric ... 2h without 1h is fail.
i agree.
Almost no build can take it, esp if you ahve a set of robes and a set of armor. You've got two 45 second buffs that make you unkillable, as well as only 30secs to tank before skin is ready again.
2 crits will kill you.
Light Armor > HA / Robes
... female looks better ^^
Dun see who'd go 2h w/o 1h skills. Gotta be able to tank sometime! And yar, fem LA owns. My War/cler be wearing those ^,^
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:02 pm
by Shadowfox542
Fyre wrote:As of the current cap, what do you think is the strongest overall PvPing build? As in, if you could have one of the following characters and one only, and wanted to do well in anything, be it jobbing, dueling, whatever, which would you pick?
Remember, this is in OVERALL strength. But if you have the time, feel free to post on what you think wins in the following situations:
1v1/Dueling: Vs chinese, 2h/1h/warlock
Small Scale Group PvP: 2h/1h/celric
Large Scale Job War/PvP: If you have enough buffers, wizard
I listed all of the builds I know, but if there's some hidden, super strong build I forgot, let me know.
Remember this is for the 90cap we have now.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:43 am
by ahmedsabry
_Scarlett_ wrote:Nitro wrote:the_wicked wrote:i agree.
Almost no build can take it, esp if you ahve a set of robes and a set of armor. You've got two 45 second buffs that make you unkillable, as well as only 30secs to tank before skin is ready again.
2 crits will kill you.
Light Armor > HA / Robes
... female looks better ^^
Dun see who'd go 2h w/o 1h skills. Gotta be able to tank sometime! And yar, fem LA owns. My War/cler be wearing those ^,^
+1
female LA just looks the shizzz
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:57 am
by Rozelady
wheres the option hybrid int s/s?
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:05 pm
by Fyre
Rozelady wrote:wheres the option hybrid int s/s?
That would be at the bottom, with the "Other"
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:04 pm
by Macsnow
Got to say Pure INT s/s... that would be my first choice, tho a hybrid one does real good too.
Second choice is a Warrior/Cleric, in the right hands = pwnage.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:44 pm
by Fyre
BUMP! Need more!
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:00 pm
by Phix
2h/cleric, but i prefer my str bow.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:07 pm
by Stress
100 fire / 100 light / 100 cold will own at small and large group PvP.
1 vs 1 PvP: Warrior / Cleric, STR Force Blade.
W/C for the reasons listed above.
Now...
STR force blade at 100 cap can:
- Inflict Bleed in two different ways.
- Stun in two different ways
- Inflict Fear
- Inflict Dull
- Inflict Division in two different ways
- Inflict Impotent in two different ways
- Other De-Buffs.
I reckon it would do great as a STR hybrid, because stun de-buff can save the blader's life if he gets critted or something.
Build: 100 fire / 100 force / 100 bicheon.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:17 pm
by ahmedsabry
Stress wrote:100 fire / 100 light / 100 cold will own at small and large group PvP.
1 vs 1 PvP: Warrior / Cleric, STR Force Blade.
W/C for the reasons listed above.
Now...
STR force blade at 100 cap can:
- Inflict Bleed in two different ways.
- Stun in two different ways
- Inflict Fear
- Inflict Dull
- Inflict Division in two different ways
- Inflict Impotent in two different ways
- Other De-Buffs.
I reckon it would do great as a STR hybrid, because stun de-buff can save the blader's life if he gets critted or something.
Build: 100 fire / 100 force / 100 bicheon.
good luck inflicting any of the status on anyone with sub cleric.. u wont be making much use of stun (being the stat the goes through holy ward) as u dont do much damage. on the other hand a warrior/lock for example can switch to 2hander-->warcry-->daredevil-->gg.
still 1H/2H/Cleric can kill both builds with ease.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:26 pm
by _Dutchy_
You can have the Strongest char or Build around but if you don't know how to play your char you ain't winning lmao
but yea prolly for me this is the top 3 best builds
2h/Cleric
Pure STR Glaiver
Pure int Warlock/Cleric
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:01 pm
by YoMama
any build that knows how to pvp
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:03 pm
by YoMama
YoMama wrote:any build that knows how to pvp
ie, a ksro glaive vs a isro glaive
isro glaive would win becuase ksro players do not know how to pvp
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:57 pm
by Stress
ahmedsabry wrote:Stress wrote:100 fire / 100 light / 100 cold will own at small and large group PvP.
1 vs 1 PvP: Warrior / Cleric, STR Force Blade.
W/C for the reasons listed above.
Now...
STR force blade at 100 cap can:
- Inflict Bleed in two different ways.
- Stun in two different ways
- Inflict Fear
- Inflict Dull
- Inflict Division in two different ways
- Inflict Impotent in two different ways
- Other De-Buffs.
I reckon it would do great as a STR hybrid, because stun de-buff can save the blader's life if he gets critted or something.
Build: 100 fire / 100 force / 100 bicheon.
good luck inflicting any of the status on anyone with sub cleric.. u wont be making much use of stun (being the stat the goes through holy ward) as u dont do much damage. on the other hand a warrior/lock for example can switch to 2hander-->warcry-->daredevil-->gg.
still 1H/2H/Cleric can kill both builds with ease.
Blader can always knock down, though. After a KD, one's HP is pretty much recovered.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:46 am
by Fyre
Lots of love for war/cleric and str bow. O_O
I'm curious why there's so little for lock/cleric. Wouldn't that be the ultimate combo?
Stun > Debuff > PO = One shot on any char in the game? Or am I wrong?
I know that offering puts out huge numbers. Isn't that enough, with lock -mag debuff and stun/sleep, to one shot even full str chinese bladers? Or 2h/cleric with mana skin up?
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:50 am
by Ragnorak
IMO Rogue/warlock is one of the best pvp build... those say um...useless vs sub cleric with holy spell probably have never seen a skill rogue/warlock owned 2hand warriors...I believe its was Night_Watch on troy that pvp 2hand/cleric...he won like 4x in a row vs a 2hand...bless/skins..bleh he go raped over his skins lol. stun+DD+prick=owned....I need to frap some pvp fight cuz most of u here will claim that warrior/cleric>>>owned rogue/warlock.
and holy spell does not prevent bleed I believe...seen a force nuker still inflict bleed over holy spell.(didn't check the lvl of holy spell)
Rogue/warlock don't just stand in one spot getting hit..constantly moving around.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 1:12 pm
by Phix
Fyre wrote:Lots of love for war/cleric and str bow. O_O
I'm curious why there's so little for lock/cleric. Wouldn't that be the ultimate combo?
Stun > Debuff > PO = One shot on any char in the game? Or am I wrong?
I know that offering puts out huge numbers. Isn't that enough, with lock -mag debuff and stun/sleep, to one shot even full str chinese bladers? Or 2h/cleric with mana skin up?
if the blade blocks, the cleric is sooo dead..
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 4:22 pm
by Starrie
1v1/Dueling: Bow or Glaive, or a well balanced nuker.
Small Scale Group PvP: Glaive. The ghost spear series are handy when it's multiple vs 1 glaive.
Large Scale Job War/PvP: Same as Small Scale. Bower maybe for the range.
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:08 pm
by I Pk I
Cant tell for Chinese chars tbh because it all depends on their builds like a Blader could be:
90bicheon/cold/force 30 fire
That would easily lose to some other build =/
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:40 pm
by GiZmO
-1v1/Dueling: Pure Int S/S
Reasoning: Quads stabs make it easier it kill opponents quickly before snow runs
Small Scale Group PvP: Wizard / Cleric
Reasoning: deals out damage quickly and with AoE, takes down more than one person.
Large Scale Job War/PvP: Cleric / Warlock
Reasoning: Can debuff all the opponents with AoE debuffs then heal and buff the party
Re: Vote and discuss: Top builds at the 90+ cap
Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 9:56 pm
by Grimm-.-
If you know how to use your character any build can top the other.
Just a matter of your tactics...
Why didn't you add bard?... IT is a nice build at higher levels.
Pure Bard<Pure Wizard. There is no chance a wizard can touch a bard. I dont know what would happen if they were given cleric sub tho.... probably wizard would be better O.o