Hey. I am making a hybrid sword character. The character will basically be a combination of blader and nuker, but I was wondering if I should make it 1:1 or 70%-70%. I've tried to calculate how the character would look with 1:1 at level 90 (nivlaM), and I will have 74% Phy, 62% Mag.
The main damage dealing skills will be Bicheon, supported by fire nukes. The weapon will be a sword (NOT A BLADE). The Masteries will be Bicheon, Fire and Lightning, and the imbue will be fire
With the 1:1 build I will get the same amount of hp and mp, but is it worth the 4% extra Physical Balance, or should I make it 70-70 instead?
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:29 pm
by Disconn3cted
just do it, no one here really knows since they have never seen it before and I think you should do 70:70
they will tell you it sucks btw
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 6:37 pm
by Philip
Disconn3cted wrote:just do it, no one here really knows since they have never seen it before and I think you should do 70:70
they will tell you it sucks btw
Had guessed that one
I am also 99% sure that I will take 70-70 to get a balanced damage output =P
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:04 pm
by NuclearSilo
U'll get pwn by a nuker ice IMO. 1 nuke + ghost spear = half of a pure str HP = GG for u 1 Strongbow crit = GG too
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:11 pm
by iShadow
YOU CAN DO IT !!!!
go spear with it use snow shield and just weapon skill. huk will give you some extra hp passive to survive and your weapon damage + imbue will be strong enough to kill others by the time your snow shield is gone. against int nukers use fan spear or whatever as much as you can to raise magical def. wear protector. good luck
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:21 pm
by NuclearSilo
iShadow wrote:YOU CAN DO IT !!!!
go spear with it use snow shield and just weapon skill. huk will give you some extra hp passive to survive and your weapon damage + imbue will be strong enough to kill others by the time your snow shield is gone. against int nukers use fan spear or whatever as much as you can to raise magical def. wear protector. good luck
He didnt say he use Ice and Heuksal so u cant have manashield and fan spear ~.~
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:26 pm
by Disconn3cted
NuclearSilo wrote:U'll get pwn by a nuker ice IMO. 1 nuke + ghost spear = half of a pure str HP = GG for u 1 Strongbow crit = GG too
I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:39 am
by muyo
Disconn3cted wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:U'll get pwn by a nuker ice IMO. 1 nuke + ghost spear = half of a pure str HP = GG for u 1 Strongbow crit = GG too
I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.
yeah +1, even low HP 1:5 and 1:7 cant be kill with 2 moves...not to talk about 70:70 and 1:1 since the have more HP..and snow shield(if u get the ice)...and shield..and KD^^
the dmg is higher than blader but lower than int hybrid. Maybe bich/light/FORCE will help:P
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:54 am
by Philip
Disconn3cted wrote:I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.
How would the damage be a problem? Would it be lower than a pure strength Blader?
And the build is going to have Bicheon, Fire and Lightning. So no snow shield =P. But it will use protector, and it will have the ability to use nukes as a ranged addition to the bicheon chains...
Edit: Oh and it is not ment to be a tanking build ^^
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:32 pm
by Disconn3cted
Philip wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.
How would the damage be a problem? Would it be lower than a pure strength Blader?
And the build is going to have Bicheon, Fire and Lightning. So no snow shield =P. But it will use protector, and it will have the ability to use nukes as a ranged addition to the bicheon chains...
Edit: Oh and it is not ment to be a tanking build ^^
It will be a little bit higher than pure str but not by a lot
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:10 pm
by _Scarlett_
Philip wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.
How would the damage be a problem? Would it be lower than a pure strength Blader?
And the build is going to have Bicheon, Fire and Lightning. So no snow shield =P. But it will use protector, and it will have the ability to use nukes as a ranged addition to the bicheon chains...
Edit: Oh and it is not ment to be a tanking build ^^
If it's not meant to be moreso a tank, why go so hybrid? The dmg will be pretty low, the nukes esp. w/ sword will be a little on the low end of the scale.
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:49 pm
by Philip
_Scarlett_ wrote:
Philip wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:I don't think this character would die that fast, this character would probably be a really good tank since it has high defense in both stats and can use a higher lvl of snow shield. The biggest problem would be the dmg I think.
How would the damage be a problem? Would it be lower than a pure strength Blader?
And the build is going to have Bicheon, Fire and Lightning. So no snow shield =P. But it will use protector, and it will have the ability to use nukes as a ranged addition to the bicheon chains...
Edit: Oh and it is not ment to be a tanking build ^^
If it's not meant to be moreso a tank, why go so hybrid? The dmg will be pretty low, the nukes esp. w/ sword will be a little on the low end of the scale.
What I ment was that it is not supposed to become a pure tank, not being able to kill anything itself...
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:23 pm
by Ningyotsukai-san
70:70 (213:272 str:int) ~ Max blues (normal | prem+)
Looking at the balances alone, it seems you'll deal better damage with the 70:70 using a sword than you would going with the 1:1 (more phy based).
Anyways, best of luck with whichever you choose ^.^
Ok, thank you very much for these calculations I will try 70:70
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:09 am
by alZen
and i would suggest concentrating on the sword skills and ditch nuking.
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:49 am
by muyo
interesting:p taking nuke mean more farming. become a pure swordmaster with this build.
but then again, fire should max imbue damage..i think the build with shield can put down snow shield..rite?
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:18 am
by Philip
alZen wrote:and i would suggest concentrating on the sword skills and ditch nuking.
Will the Bicheon ranged skill get strong enough to be an opening damage attack?
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:53 pm
by the_wicked
go 90 fire 90 bich 60 cold 60 light. You'll need all the fire dmg and you can sacrifice 13% from 90 mana to 60 mana shield due to your high HP amount. Also means less farming. Only problem you're going to have is killing people with the build....you'll need a lot of strategy. Bladers depend on crits but the 70:70 will not crit as hard as a blader, yet will nuke less than a nuker. I'd be interested to see this build in pvp...
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:28 pm
by Philip
the_wicked wrote:go 90 fire 90 bich 60 cold 60 light. You'll need all the fire dmg and you can sacrifice 13% from 90 mana to 60 mana shield due to your high HP amount. Also means less farming. Only problem you're going to have is killing people with the build....you'll need a lot of strategy. Bladers depend on crits but the 70:70 will not crit as hard as a blader, yet will nuke less than a nuker. I'd be interested to see this build in pvp...
Would I loose too much if I didn't take it? (Mana Shield)
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:07 pm
by kevinsun80
I have the same question. I'm making a S/S BUILD but I'm thinking of using a blade instead of a sword.
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:15 am
by Barotix
70:70 is better off with Spear or Bow, Imo.
This is my favorite. I might switch to this instead of Blader because Theory says the build is better for stealing.
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Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:38 am
by muyo
plz report back ur build at higher level if u continuing the build
Re: Hybrid Sword.. 70%:70% or 1:1
Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:33 am
by Philip
muyo wrote:plz report back ur build at higher level if u continuing the build
Ok I am level 13 at the moment on Venus on this build, farming with 6-gap XD..