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Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:14 pm
by Tsukiten
So yeah, everybody is like;
"Go pure or at very least 2:1 INT or 90% Phy. Balance, the rest is crap."
What makes the 'rest' crap?
By 'rest' I refer to the more uncommon builds such as 1:1, 2:1 STR perhaps and 5:1, etc. etc.
Everybody says: "It just plain sucks."
But why does it suck, and did some people actually use such builds to be able to confirm this?
Thanks for reading, and some good replies would be nice.
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:21 pm
by Barotix
Because they have never seen a good one.
5:1 is actually good for int and str, so is 3:1 and 2:1. 1:1 works too. 90%-80% physical or magical balance is good as well.
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:41 pm
by PainterOfSound
Agreed.
Uncommon build are usually seen as bad because no one has taken these builds to the level cap (currently 90). Also, some builds will not become amazing until level 100 or later (such as Chinese nukers without weapon skills)
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:49 pm
by LockStar.
Barotix wrote:Because they have never seen a good one.
5:1 is actually good for int and str, so is 3:1 and 2:1. 1:1 works too. 90%-80% physical or magical balance is good as well.
1.1 Hybrids totally suck, Pvped one with both a Pure INT Spear char and a Pure STR char. They die in snow..
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:37 am
by Da_Realest
LockStar. wrote:Barotix wrote:Because they have never seen a good one.
5:1 is actually good for int and str, so is 3:1 and 2:1. 1:1 works too. 90%-80% physical or magical balance is good as well.
1.1 Hybrids totally suck, Pvped one with both a Pure INT Spear char and a Pure STR char. They die in snow..
It was a 1:1 hybrid along with an S/S hybrid that won GNGWC a while ago for USA. nightv wrote:1 int 1 str hybride 240 str 240 int with spear. so haha to all the people out there that say a 1:1 hybrid is crap, it beat them all down. pure int and ure str to help give usa the gold!
I still hold firm on my belief that any build can be good. They just need to be played differently.
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:38 am
by iShadow
^^ as da_realest said; i am currently working on a str hybrid blader
havent done any pvp coz i am not even close to being farmed, but its a work in progress; its a blader.. so slow progress
very slow.
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:30 am
by iseedeadpeople
Da_Realest wrote:LockStar. wrote:Barotix wrote:Because they have never seen a good one.
5:1 is actually good for int and str, so is 3:1 and 2:1. 1:1 works too. 90%-80% physical or magical balance is good as well.
1.1 Hybrids totally suck, Pvped one with both a Pure INT Spear char and a Pure STR char. They die in snow..
It was a 1:1 hybrid along with an S/S hybrid that won GNGWC a while ago for USA. nightv wrote:1 int 1 str hybride 240 str 240 int with spear. so haha to all the people out there that say a 1:1 hybrid is crap, it beat them all down. pure int and ure str to help give usa the gold!
I still hold firm on my belief that any build can be good. They just need to be played differently.
ooooo such a pretty sign, i want one xD
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:47 pm
by [SD]Isidro
iShadow wrote:^^ as da_realest said; i am currently working on a str hybrid blader
havent done any pvp coz i am not even close to being farmed, but its a work in progress; its a blader.. so slow progress
very slow.
I'm doing 7:1 STR hyb blader, what about you? Currently I'm lvl71, it's going on fine.
I have about 13k HP and 7k MP
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 7:43 pm
by Disconn3cted
It's not that they suck its just that no one has tried it so everyone says it sucks even though they don't really know
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:19 pm
by NuclearSilo
Hybrid always need a good gear + both int and str to reach his maximum dmg. While a pure str or pure int only need to have + str or + int to reach his maximum dmg. If hybrid has only + str or + int, it's just like 50% of the bonus of the pure str. Moreover, hybrid need both buff physic and magic that comsum a lot of masteries.
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 5:13 pm
by JoyFax
I still continue to believe that chinese's true power will come with hybrid builds... But that's just me
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 3:59 am
by iShadow
[SD]Isidro wrote:iShadow wrote:^^ as da_realest said; i am currently working on a str hybrid blader
havent done any pvp coz i am not even close to being farmed, but its a work in progress; its a blader.. so slow progress
very slow.
I'm doing 7:1 STR hyb blader, what about you? Currently I'm lvl71, it's going on fine.
I have about 13k HP and 7k MP
i am now lvl 68 with 8.4k hp and 5.6k mp naked. its a 2:1 str hybrid with 4 gap trying to farm coz all this way i have 0 gapped so weapon is at 64, fire (main) at 61, ice / light at 40 both which needs to be farmed to 60. i do fine against str/pure str, but i have died against int hybrids in pvp; it seems i need a crit or 2 to get them. the crit still seems good enough, almost twice of regular damage. but mainly i think i had probs against int coz my snow shield is still not farmed. might also add more str to move phy balance a lil higher.
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 4:50 pm
by Nitro
I personally belive that if you are playing Chinese , any build , any ratio , would do great.
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 8:41 pm
by F-22
NuclearSilo wrote:Hybrid always need a good gear + both int and str to reach his maximum dmg. While a pure str or pure int only need to have + str or + int to reach his maximum dmg. If hybrid has only + str or + int, it's just like 50% of the bonus of the pure str. Moreover, hybrid need both buff physic and magic that comsum a lot of masteries.
dam you! you took my words!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:10 am
by iShadow
NuclearSilo wrote:Hybrid always need a good gear + both int and str to reach his maximum dmg. While a pure str or pure int only need to have + str or + int to reach his maximum dmg. If hybrid has only + str or + int, it's just like 50% of the bonus of the pure str. Moreover, hybrid need both buff physic and magic that comsum a lot of masteries.
so you are saying as far as mastery goes after 100 cap we should have a balanced mastery instead of maxing 2 masteries? may be 150 weapon, 130 fire, 70 light, 50 ice? for 150 cap...
Re: Why do the more 'uncommon' hybrids suck?
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:56 pm
by NuclearSilo
It's hard to build a hybrid at late cap. Ppl need years to get to lv 140 so no one will gonna to sacrifice his char just to 'test' hybrid at this cap.
If u want good hybrid for the further cap, try to fight with other pure build and use only 1 type of force: or fire, or light, or force