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Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:17 pm
by Sir_Nicolas
so after i saw the snow shield i want to make a chinese, but i only like str builds. so what str chinese build could have lighting and ice?, and dont suck.. what i want is recommendations.
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:32 pm
by nohunta
Light and Force is alot better but
Pure Str Blader is probably best for that Ultimate tank.
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:36 pm
by klokus
Snowshield doesn't matter that much as a pure str
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 4:42 pm
by -.-
str hybrid bow could use ice/light/bow...
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:13 pm
by Sir_Nicolas
oh i see snow shield burns ur mp so if you are a full str and u have little mp it will burn all your mp...
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:42 am
by _Dutchy_
Full str without fire ... is just stupid Fire gives you @ 90 like 17-18 % extra phy attack not the mention the Mag Defence..
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:22 am
by whiteraven
just try something yourself,,
make a nice char as you self like it,, own in pvp, and make ur own guide
xD and maybe,, after a while,, you see peeps walking around copying ur build xD because it rocks
lol
u ur inmagionation and dont ask other peeps to decide for you what build you should make!
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:41 am
by Kubus
str hybrid bow could use ice/light/bow...
Just make it 70:70 and use 2 imbues, you freeze, run, survive and you are less MP pots dependent. Leaves nothing to be desired.
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:32 am
by long1
klokus wrote:Snowshield doesn't matter that much as a pure str
Yes it does! pure str with 20 or 25% snow own all chinese int build. try it!
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 6:32 pm
by Qosta420
klokus wrote:Snowshield doesn't matter that much as a pure str
exactly. and heres why. snowshield relies on large amounts of mp which absorb damage as if it were HP. because int chars have alot of MP this makes the skill very effective and efficent. but for a str char with very little mp. you dont get that much more damage absorbtion out of the snow shield and you end up wasting all your little MP
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:36 am
by bboy23
I think Fire gives u more than what Cold can offer
Fire gives you extra physical dmg which you really need (since int based chars deal relatively more dmg)
Besides, cold gives you physical defense which you already have by being Str based.
And also if you are Full Str, having a high Snow Shield will burn your mana WAY too fast and you don't have much...
SO just forget ice and get fire
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 1:53 am
by Disconn3cted
snow shield will just make you run out of mp even at 20-25% and fire gives you about 18% more phy attack at 90, why would you want to use ice instead? (other than to be different) but if thats the case then
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 2:01 am
by blackfalcon
Disconn3cted wrote:snow shield will just make you run out of mp even at 20-25% and fire gives you about 18% more phy attack at 90, why would you want to use ice instead? (other than to be different) but if thats the case then
pic made me lol
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:17 am
by IC3
by not taking fire you will be loosing mag defence and also be loosing the extra physical increase. I dont know how well this build works but if you like snow but want to stay stong you could always try 90 wep, 90 ice, 90 fire 30 light, you will lose parry bonus and magical attack increase, and wont be very fast on foot. but if you like Ice and Fire why not try it out. Enjoy your build thats what matters.
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:21 am
by NobleHunter
IC3 wrote:by not taking fire you will be loosing mag defence and also be loosing the extra physical increase. I dont know how well this build works but if you like snow but want to stay stong you could always try 90 wep, 90 ice, 90 fire 30 light, you will lose parry bonus and magical attack increase, and wont be very fast on foot. but if you like Ice and Fire why not try it out. Enjoy your build thats what matters.
i agree with you, a str build without fire is losing vital phy extra damage and imo will fail. stay with ice lvl 90 and 30 light you´ll lose parry ratio an phantom walk but you can use speed drugs instead of grass walk.
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 3:29 am
by IC3
also to add yes your build will tank well with snow on, but remember your str and you dont have alot of major mp. If played smart with KDs this will give you chances to use MP pots but your snow is goign to drain your mp :/ i think its an interesting build though, as i said before, just have fun with it thats all that matters. Just to add if you want to lvl faster, ive found wearing Armour with str chars effective and grinding on physical attack base mobs. your HP pots will be very minumun and against other str chars in pvp you will more than likely win
i could be wrong im mearly presuming if someone can confirm this though it would be better.
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:14 am
by Het1337
pure str bow with light/ice imbue and just use KB every other move so ur mp doesn't run to low when using snow shield
Masteries:
Light:90
Bow:90
Ice:90
heuksal for hp passive?:30
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:35 am
by CHIPS
Just a thought based on my theory. To all those who says maxing Ice Shield on full str character will drain all the mp, how can the mp be drained when there is only a 0.5 second mp pot delay? Sure your mp will go to zero for 1 second. But in 0.5 seconds your mp will go back high enough for you to use a skill, with a lot of mp to spare. Physical attacks skills generally cost a lot less mp than nukes.
Another thought. If the situation is really that bad, can't they just cast level 1 Ice Wall once to block one nuke, and then the next second their mp will go back to full? And then follow it up with level 1 Fire wall. If both used then knockback the enemy once and the the mp will be full again.
Taking chinese full str out though their hp pots were tough. I do not see how taking the mp out will be that much easier when the pot drinking rate is the same. Like I said, sure the mp will go to zero for half a second. But right after you will have enough mp to use a skill. Nukes does take 2-3 seconds to cast after all.
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:53 am
by _Dutchy_
CHIPS wrote:Just a thought based on my theory. To all those who says maxing Ice Shield on full str character will drain all the mp, how can the mp be drained when there is only a 0.5 second mp pot delay? Sure your mp will go to zero for 1 second. But in 0.5 seconds your mp will go back high enough for you to use a skill, with a lot of mp to spare. Physical attacks skills generally cost a lot less mp than nukes.
your mp will be drained fast you can't substain a 50% snowshield a pure str can substain at most a 25-35% your mp simply won't pot up fast enough for a 50% snowshield
Another thought. If the situation is really that bad, can't they just cast level 1 Ice Wall once to block one nuke, and then the next second their mp will go back to full? >No .. Because ice wall doesn't block nukes... lol< And then follow it up with level 1 Fire wall. If both used then knockback the enemy once and the the mp will be full again.
Taking chinese full str out though their hp pots were tough. I do not see how taking the mp out will be that much easier when the pot drinking rate is the same. >the thing you don't get is that the MP pot on a pure STR char gives less MP then the HP pot on a pure st<r Like I said, sure the mp will go to zero for half a second. But right after you will have enough mp to use a skill. Nukes does take 2-3 seconds to cast after all.
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 10:31 am
by Knuckles X
I think without the Fire tree, you'll miss out greatly on the magic defence. Personally, I'd choose Fire over Ice. Fire will give you more attack power and magic defence and it can also help you spot those nasty stealth/invisible players, while Ice gives physical defence. Something you already have plenty of as a full Str.
Re: Chinese str build without fire
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 9:51 pm
by McLovin1t
Disconn3cted wrote:snow shield will just make you run out of mp even at 20-25% and fire gives you about 18% more phy attack at 90, why would you want to use ice instead? (other than to be different) but if thats the case then
That pic made me fall off of my computer chair in unending laughter. That really made my day.