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After spending hours and hours grinding with a 9 gap and then deleveling, I decided it would be best to start again and just go for a constant 4 gap throughout. If I 4 gap all the way to the 90 cap, I'll get 537k SP and my build requires 560k. I'll make up the extra 23k through dying and changing my gap.

I was just wondering if you guys thought it would be a good idea, because I hate getting pfarmed, I like playing the game. This way I'm levelling up, getting SP, and I'll always have enough SP to max me out at the mastery 4 levels lower than me.

Also, how long would it take me to reach around lvl 64? (I've never had 8D before) I'll be playing around 3-4 hours per day every day during summer. I have no premium or GT. The time I spend playing doesn't include logging in btw. I'm a pure STR bow (90 Pacheon, 90 Fire, 90 Force, 30 Light)

What do you guys think?

I like your build

This would work alot better if you have a gold ticket or skill ticket (skill ticket is best, if you just have that, you could probably 2 gap the whole thing). Gapping is annoying though, maybe it would be best for you to just 0 gap to cap then farm.

If you can grind fast and you do this 4 gap thing (4 gap is the "mystery" gap btw, it's not beneficial for xp or sp, it's like equal. That's why you have a good amount of sp, but you're gonna level pretty slow), then it's gonna take a while to hit 90... And I mean a long while, but if you can stick with it, it'll take less than a year .

Rainigul wrote:I like your build

This would work alot better if you have a gold ticket or skill ticket (skill ticket is best, if you just have that, you could probably 2 gap the whole thing). Gapping is annoying though, maybe it would be best for you to just 0 gap to cap then farm.

If you can grind fast and you do this 4 gap thing (4 gap is the "mystery" gap btw, it's not beneficial for xp or sp, it's like equal. That's why you have a good amount of sp, but you're gonna level pretty slow), then it's gonna take a while to hit 90... And I mean a long while, but if you can stick with it, it'll take less than a year .

Ok thanks for the info dude, I like the idea with the skill ticket. The only problem is, I'll probably need to buy premium as well. Some days I might not be able to get on and my ticket will go to waste, but if I had premium it would sort this issue out. Skill ticket is also very cheap, so I might just buy it without premium... hmmm...

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Lol, 2 gapping with a Skill ticket will get me 683k sp =P So it means I could probably afford to one gap some of the way... am I calculating this right? I used nivlam to check how much SP I would get 30-90 with a 2 gap (341,544 sp) and then doubled it...

SECOND EDIT:

Why was my post moved somewhere else then moved back here o.o ?

im not 100% sure but im pretty sure its alot faster to farm ur sp with a 9 and 0 gap the rest of the way.
and u can use the sp-gap calculator to see how much sp you would get from when your done farming to 90 with a 0 gap and subtract that from the total of sp needed so you wont have to farm as much.

when ur farming at a 9 gap just dont think about ur lvl just the sp

KsqueaKJ wrote:im not 100% sure but im pretty sure its alot faster to farm ur sp with a 9 and 0 gap the rest of the way.
and u can use the sp-gap calculator to see how much sp you would get from when your done farming to 90 with a 0 gap and subtract that from the total of sp needed so you wont have to farm as much.

when ur farming at a 9 gap just dont think about ur lvl just the sp

Ermm dunno if you read my second post. That's exactly what I done. Please read carefully dude, don't just respond without reading. I've already tried 9 gapping to get SP, it's boring. I want to play the game and progress at the same time. I'm sick of getting to lvl 28 and then going back to 20, when I can go to 28 and then keep going with a 4 gap. When I get my skill ticket I'll only need to 2 gap and I'll be done in no time.

I would rather keep levelling and work towards the next level instead of going up and down and up and down.

Binning wrote:am I calculating this right? I used nivlam to check how much SP I would get 30-90 with a 2 gap (341,544 sp) and then doubled it...

It won't be double unless you only level while on the 3 hours of premium time/sp ticket.

I know gapping sucks, but 4-5 gapping will be even worse. Trust me, I tried that before.
You'll level slow and your SP goes up slowly as well.

Here's what I'm going to do.

0 gap to 26. (yes it's an odd number, but meh. I have lvl 17 skills and cba to delevel them)
9 gap at 26 while getting some SP's. (Enough to get my basic skills to 43'ish)
0 gap to 52 while leaving skills at 43 and upping 1 mastery to 51.
9 gap at 52 to grab the skills I didn't got before.
9 gap at 52 to get skills to lvl 63 and more.
0 gap to 72 while leaving skills at 63 and and upping 1 mastery to 71.
9 gap at nachals to grab skills I didn't got before.
9 gap at nachals for 90 cap (only need 2 trees after lvl60 thus things will work out faster)
0 gap to lvl 90 and probably farm a bit at the cap if needed.

As you can see I switch between 0 gap and 9 gap often enough to make SP farming bearable.

Mobs
26 > whatever my quest tells me to grind on.
52 > shades (or penons/sonars if I can find a nice spear)
72 > nachals

^All with gold ticket (might buy prem for the extra SP quest, but that's undecided atm) and gold skill ticket.

2806 wrote:

Binning wrote:am I calculating this right? I used nivlam to check how much SP I would get 30-90 with a 2 gap (341,544 sp) and then doubled it...

It won't be double unless you only level while on the 3 hours of premium time/sp ticket.

Yup, that's why I said you could probably 2 gap it, sometimes you might grind for longer than 3 hours, but even then, you should still be able to make it.

Imo, if you're going to gap, this is the way to do it.

A better way is to 9 gap from lv 19-29 on ongs once, and then you can try and 1 gap it, because you'll get alot of sp at the ongs (keep in mind, you'll be gaining sp as you build up your gap as you level from 10-19). If you plan on perma-gapping a character, it's best to have it a 3 gap or less, 3 gap is even big, 2 gap is fine, 1 gap is ideal (if you're gapping, of course 0 gapping is best).

Binning wrote:

KsqueaKJ wrote:im not 100% sure but im pretty sure its alot faster to farm ur sp with a 9 and 0 gap the rest of the way.
and u can use the sp-gap calculator to see how much sp you would get from when your done farming to 90 with a 0 gap and subtract that from the total of sp needed so you wont have to farm as much.

when ur farming at a 9 gap just dont think about ur lvl just the sp

Ermm dunno if you read my second post. That's exactly what I done. Please read carefully dude, don't just respond without reading. I've already tried 9 gapping to get SP, it's boring. I want to play the game and progress at the same time. I'm sick of getting to lvl 28 and then going back to 20, when I can go to 28 and then keep going with a 4 gap. When I get my skill ticket I'll only need to 2 gap and I'll be done in no time.

I would rather keep levelling and work towards the next level instead of going up and down and up and down.

1.i read everything, 2 u said nothing about 0 or 9 gap in ur second post, you did say it in ur first. when i typed that i was thinking you were asking the fastest/best way to be full farmed 90.

Binning, is that 4 gap with Premium + 4 week SP ticket as well? Or just without any silk items at all? I've been doing the same thing as you have, 4 gapping all the way up to 90; but with just a regular Premium Gold + SP ticket and doing the Premium Seed Quests.

By the way, I'd like to know who you are ingame as well since you're in Odin as I am too.

KsqueaKJ wrote:

Binning wrote:

KsqueaKJ wrote:im not 100% sure but im pretty sure its alot faster to farm ur sp with a 9 and 0 gap the rest of the way.
and u can use the sp-gap calculator to see how much sp you would get from when your done farming to 90 with a 0 gap and subtract that from the total of sp needed so you wont have to farm as much.

when ur farming at a 9 gap just dont think about ur lvl just the sp

Ermm dunno if you read my second post. That's exactly what I done. Please read carefully dude, don't just respond without reading. I've already tried 9 gapping to get SP, it's boring. I want to play the game and progress at the same time. I'm sick of getting to lvl 28 and then going back to 20, when I can go to 28 and then keep going with a 4 gap. When I get my skill ticket I'll only need to 2 gap and I'll be done in no time.

I would rather keep levelling and work towards the next level instead of going up and down and up and down.

1.i read everything, 2 u said nothing about 0 or 9 gap in ur second post, you did say it in ur first. when i typed that i was thinking you were asking the fastest/best way to be full farmed 90.

Binning wrote:After spending hours and hours grinding with a 9 gap and then deleveling, I decided it would be best to start again and just go for a constant 4 gap throughout. If I 4 gap all the way to the 90 cap, I'll get 537k SP and my build requires 560k. I'll make up the extra 23k through dying and changing my gap.

The 9 gap was the first thing I mentioned ^^

Well I'll only really be grinding 3 hours per day, that's all I can make time for, so I'll be using all of my skill ticket. I'm not using any sort of premium, I just don't think I should reward Joymax for their bot infested game =P Just Skill ticket for me.

My in-game name currently is 'Acula', but when I switch to my Bow account I'll be going under the name of 'Durge'.

So which one should I PM? If you want I can help you out there in my spare time when I'm not on my tickets. I have them set up to start up at night then in the morning I usually find a decent Niya Guard PT to use them up and such. By the way, I would still get a Premium Gold in addition to that SP ticket. I only have a 4 gap and on regular mobs my level, I get one full SP point and then some. (400 SXP = 1 SP correct?) But only with those two combined. If they werent, I'd get about half that.

If you can afford it, its not that bad really.

Depends on you...it'll take you a long while to farm at a 4 gap.

I usually play Euro's so they go up faster, but I've typically done similar to what Takolin described.

0 gap to ~18-20
Open a gap till I'm 22-23, gives me anywhere from 4-6 gap
ONGS ONGS ONGS pfarm whatever amount. Adjusting gap to 9, delevel where required. 3-4 hours per day - 5k per day easily w/ no ticket. Right now I am pfarming a lvl 22 and he gets about ~1k per hour with a 7 gap at ongs. It'll depend on your pfarmer. I used a lvl 64 cleric so he kills kind of slowly. I'm sure a high-level nuker will just blow that SP gain away.
Leave a 2-3 gap pretty much the rest of the game. Whatever is left adjust gap to 5-6 according, farm on penons/sonars or snipers later on.

Oh, and go for a premium silver at LEAST. I hear gold is nice, but I've never bothered with it.

Alright, I currently have 26k after being Pfarmed at Ongs. I'm lvl 30 with a 4 gap. I'll keep the 4 gap up to 42, then open a 9 gap. Then I'll get pfarmed at Penons from 42-45 which will get me 75k SP. All in all, at lvl 45 I should have gained around 122k SP in total, leaving me 438k left to farm.

Then, I'll 4 gap up from 46-63. At that point I'll 9 gap from 64-65 (Probably on nachals or something, it will take ages I know. Maybe I can get pfarmed at 64, but it will cost a lot). Then I can 2 gap from 66-90. So here's the plan

0 - 22 (0 Gap)
23 - 27 (9 gap)
28 - 41 (4 gap)
42 - 45 (9 gap)
46 - 63 (4 gap)
64 - 65 (9 gap)
66 - 90 (2 gap)

Gets me 591,087 SP in total.

How does that sound?

Thanks for the offer Rhe7oric, but what do you mean by help =P ? I won't be able to start this until the summer because I'm going on holiday on Friday and I'll just be stalling to get enough gold to start when I get back.... btw PM me on Durge, it's the most active right now.

As for the silver premium... I might get it. I don't mind spending a lot of time on this. It's not like I want to get it done right away. I might by premium if I start to think that things are getting REALLY slow but that won't be until around 42-46.

Thanks for the help everyone!

I'll help powerlevel you up some, not often though because I myself have a busy schedule these few weeks coming up. Although, I'm gonna stay away from Samarakand Ongs because Supergirl (level 90 wiz/cleric_ from _OrdreSacre_ keeps on spawning slave watchers on EVERYONE there, regardless if they are legit or not. He is pretty much the new server asshole now =/

Rhe7oric wrote:I'll help powerlevel you up some, not often though because I myself have a busy schedule these few weeks coming up. Although, I'm gonna stay away from Samarakand Ongs because Supergirl (level 90 wiz/cleric_ from _OrdreSacre_ keeps on spawning slave watchers on EVERYONE there, regardless if they are legit or not. He is pretty much the new server asshole now =/

It's too late for me to go to Ongs anyway, I'm too high a level. The next thing I'll be getting pfarmed on is Penons. Thanks for the offer dude =) I won't pester you into plvling me. Just send me a forum PM if you're on and have free time or something, then I'll try and log in. Thanks a lot dude, much appreciated =)

in all honesty if your going to start again i would suggest you pfarm all the sp you need at ongs. if you can afford it buy a prem and a gold sp ticket and find a high lvl buddy who can plvl you at ongs. in a bout a month with a prem and a gold sp ticket you should have anywhere from a few hundred K sp to 600K (if you can find a bot to plvl you 24/7) which will allow you with most builds to 0 gap to 90 and be fully farmed or nearly so.

in all honesty if your going to start again i would suggest you pfarm all the sp you need at ongs. if you can afford it buy a prem and a gold sp ticket and find a high lvl buddy who can plvl you at ongs. in a bout a month with a prem and a gold sp ticket you should have anywhere from a few hundred K sp to 600K (if you can find a bot to plvl you 24/7) which will allow you with most builds to 0 gap to 90 and be fully farmed or nearly so.

Qosta420 wrote:in all honesty if your going to start again i would suggest you pfarm all the sp you need at ongs. if you can afford it buy a prem and a gold sp ticket and find a high lvl buddy who can plvl you at ongs. in a bout a month with a prem and a gold sp ticket you should have anywhere from a few hundred K sp to 600K (if you can find a bot to plvl you 24/7) which will allow you with most builds to 0 gap to 90 and be fully farmed or nearly so.

Nobody seems to understand why I want to do it this way though -_- I hate levelling up then delevelling, I don't get a sense of achievment. I've never been able to use the higher skills, I wouldn't mind just getting up to like 72 and using that account to pfarm my other chars at Ongs. With the way I'm doing it, it means I NEVER have to delevel, thus, I'm always going up and up and up. Getting Pfarmed at Ongs is boring and there's no effort involved, I want a sense of achievment when my char is a high lvl and fully farmed.