2H WARRIOR/ROGUE

[UniqueSpawn]

A good build? and why you think so?

[carnage]

a very versatil build cuz u can be rogue for damage dealer or warrior 2 tank but IMO i dont c the advantage in pvp cuz u have no sub mastery that help u like a sub cleric sub warlock <.<

[XMoshe]

Atleast you have 3 different ways of grinding, but I would still go for a support sub like bard/cleric or warlock.

[boast]

i can tank if there is a party, or grind easy as a xbow

just opens opportunities...

[UniqueSpawn]

a very versatil build cuz u can be rogue for damage dealer or warrior 2 tank but IMO i dont c the advantage in pvp cuz u have no sub mastery that help u like a sub cleric sub warlock <.<

hmmmmmm...how about this for 90 cap?

90 warrior
60 cleric
30 rogue for the invis


does this sounds good?

[dannoob]

should go for 90 cleric, imo invis is useless for warrior. you dont exactly need to sneak up on anyone when you can just sprint assualt and stun or kb them.

[UniqueSpawn]

should go for 90 cleric, imo invis is useless for warrior. you dont exactly need to sneak up on anyone when you can just sprint assualt and stun or kb them.

yea but sometimes its fun to use esp. against other warriors..rogues and wiz that uses invis..sometimes it gets boring standing around waiting for them to come out so i might as well use invis too and smile about it..and its also good to use when you're in murder status

[dannoob]

yea but sometimes its fun ..and its also good to use when you're in murder status

lmao what do you do when your not grinding? anyways ya i guess its a fun skill but to waste a whole sub mastery on it seems a bti sad for me.

[carnage]

go 90 sub cleric

30 for rogue cuz inv? na cuz almost all have pk edited and they can c u

[UniqueSpawn]

yea but sometimes its fun ..and its also good to use when you're in murder status

lmao what do you do when your not grinding? anyways ya i guess its a fun skill but to waste a whole sub mastery on it seems a bti sad for me.

. i can always dlvl it lata...right now i like to pvp/pve at s.g. Sam...i havent been grinding lately..i like to enjoy the fun moment...sro is kinda getting boring now..

[UniqueSpawn]

go 90 sub cleric

30 for rogue cuz inv? na cuz almost all have pk edited and they can c u

yea true , ill dlvl it lata..

[NobleHunter]

Please, go 90 cleric.....60 cleric, 30 rogue would be a complete failure.

[weymouthhall]

Im warrior/ rogue full farmed 80 dagger/xbow/2hand/1hand. And I think im the best pvp character in my server
One of the most versatile build but will requires more sp than usual. The main point of this build is that you will have the tanking ability of warrior and the damage dealing ability of rogue together, so you need to combine they both in job, pvp or whatever you do. Say in pvp, if you want to finish your opponent fast. use warrior and deal damages with some daredevil hits first, then knock your opponent down on the floor, switch quickly to dagger, turn on dagger desperate, mortal wounds, sure death 90%.

[NobleHunter]

knock your opponent down on the floor, switch quickly to dagger, turn on dagger desperate, mortal wounds, sure death 90%.

Nice strategy ^^ mortal wounds increase the damage in a 50% when the enemy is KD, you sure need fast fingers.

[weymouthhall]

knock your opponent down on the floor, switch quickly to dagger, turn on dagger desperate, mortal wounds, sure death 90%.

Nice strategy ^^ mortal wounds increase the damage in a 50% when the enemy is KD, you sure need fast fingers.

Or smart set up

[Berto]

I've seen amazing farmed warrior / rogues. You gotta know how to weapon switch well and react to the situation though, when you master it you will be just amazing and unique.

[-.-]

30 wizard is better than 30 rogue unless you want mask skill since wizard can get teleport+invisible+lighting kb+ ugh... it can breath fire lol

[UniqueSpawn]

Im warrior/ rogue full farmed 80 dagger/xbow/2hand/1hand. And I think im the best pvp character in my server
One of the most versatile build but will requires more sp than usual. The main point of this build is that you will have the tanking ability of warrior and the damage dealing ability of rogue together, so you need to combine they both in job, pvp or whatever you do. Say in pvp, if you want to finish your opponent fast. use warrior and deal damages with some daredevil hits first, then knock your opponent down on the floor, switch quickly to dagger, turn on dagger desperate, mortal wounds, sure death 90%.

weymouthhall

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[carnage]

Im warrior/ rogue full farmed 80 dagger/xbow/2hand/1hand. And I think im the best pvp character in my server
One of the most versatile build but will requires more sp than usual. The main point of this build is that you will have the tanking ability of warrior and the damage dealing ability of rogue together, so you need to combine they both in job, pvp or whatever you do. Say in pvp, if you want to finish your opponent fast. use warrior and deal damages with some daredevil hits first, then knock your opponent down on the floor, switch quickly to dagger, turn on dagger desperate, mortal wounds, sure death 90%.

weymouthhall

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i agree is a very versatil build, but for pvp they dont do so good IMO cuz they dont have a sub mastery that help them like sub cleric sub warlock.

For me kill a warrior/no sub or rogue/no sub is sooooo easy and fast, warrior/rogue are good in FW jobs cuz is versatil can tank or deal good damage but in pvp.... all builds have their pros and con, there is no perfect build

[weymouthhall]

Im warrior/ rogue full farmed 80 dagger/xbow/2hand/1hand. And I think im the best pvp character in my server
One of the most versatile build but will requires more sp than usual. The main point of this build is that you will have the tanking ability of warrior and the damage dealing ability of rogue together, so you need to combine they both in job, pvp or whatever you do. Say in pvp, if you want to finish your opponent fast. use warrior and deal damages with some daredevil hits first, then knock your opponent down on the floor, switch quickly to dagger, turn on dagger desperate, mortal wounds, sure death 90%.

weymouthhall

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i agree is a very versatil build, but for pvp they dont do so good IMO cuz they dont have a sub mastery that help them like sub cleric sub warlock.

For me kill a warrior/no sub or rogue/no sub is sooooo easy and fast, warrior/rogue are good in FW jobs cuz is versatil can tank or deal good damage but in pvp.... all builds have their pros and con, there is no perfect build

Actually when I started making this build, I did not think that it will do any well in pvp. But after observing others' strategy , then implemented into my own and perfected my strategies, I havent had any worthy opponents in my server in pvp, especially. This buils is actually SPECIALIZED FOR PVP. The most important thing about this build is how to set up for quick weapon switchs and adapting to situations that you are in. In pvp, the reason that made this build shine is because it has the tanking ability of the warrior and the damage dealing ability of the rogues, combined them, it will be almost impossible to be killed in 1vs1(know-how players im talking about, not morons ).
The best combination that I found out for this build is deal some damages first by warrior skills 2handsword, then knock down ur enemy on the ground, switch to dagger, turn on DD, mortal wounds, that will kill your opponent 90% of the time. If not, follow up with pricks and butterfly, surely it will finish the job. I agree that chinese has 1 secs pot delay, but rogue is the fastest damage dealer, that basically neutralized the 1sec potdelay from chinese by inflicting massive damages in a matter of couple secs ( how can u survive being hit by 2handskill follow up by dagger desperate )
I have tried with all the builds available in my servers, warrior/ cleric, rogue/ cleric, warrior/ warlock, glaiver, bower, nukers.... None have really lasted against me, to be honest

[carnage]

Actually when I started making this build, I did not think that it will do any well in pvp. But after observing others' strategy , then implemented into my own and perfected my strategies, I havent had any worthy opponents in my server in pvp, especially. This buils is actually SPECIALIZED FOR PVP. The most important thing about this build is how to set up for quick weapon switchs and adapting to situations that you are in. In pvp, the reason that made this build shine is because it has the tanking ability of the warrior and the damage dealing ability of the rogues, combined them, it will be almost impossible to be killed in 1vs1(know-how players im talking about, not morons ).
The best combination that I found out for this build is deal some damages first by warrior skills 2handsword, then knock down ur enemy on the ground, switch to dagger, turn on DD, mortal wounds, that will kill your opponent 90% of the time. If not, follow up with pricks and butterfly, surely it will finish the job. I agree that chinese has 1 secs pot delay, but rogue is the fastest damage dealer, that basically neutralized the 1sec potdelay from chinese by inflicting massive damages in a matter of couple secs ( how can u survive being hit by 2handskill follow up by dagger desperate )
I have tried with all the builds available in my servers, warrior/ cleric, rogue/ cleric, warrior/ warlock, glaiver, bower, nukers.... None have really lasted against me, to be honest

these build have no buff that help in pvp, i just, stun debuff trap+sleep and attack, and u will die in 2-4 attacks (count the KB attack that cancel ur attacks), lets say that u KD me and change to rogue +desperate and some attack, i have iron skin, advanced reflect, a shield to block + u are already debuffed, if u dont kill me you die fast cuz low hp(desperate), lets say u change of weapon to take off desperate and get some hp, u still die cuz you are debuffed and is easy to kill any warrior or rogue that dont have a sub class that help, thats how the sub warlock own the chineses cuz they dont have buff that cover them of debuff(some have buff against bad status but they dont max it = useless)

(notice that we are talking about this in 2 topics <.< choose one and lets talk there to no waste time posting the same about the same questions lol)

[weymouthhall]

Actually when I started making this build, I did not think that it will do any well in pvp. But after observing others' strategy , then implemented into my own and perfected my strategies, I havent had any worthy opponents in my server in pvp, especially. This buils is actually SPECIALIZED FOR PVP. The most important thing about this build is how to set up for quick weapon switchs and adapting to situations that you are in. In pvp, the reason that made this build shine is because it has the tanking ability of the warrior and the damage dealing ability of the rogues, combined them, it will be almost impossible to be killed in 1vs1(know-how players im talking about, not morons ).
The best combination that I found out for this build is deal some damages first by warrior skills 2handsword, then knock down ur enemy on the ground, switch to dagger, turn on DD, mortal wounds, that will kill your opponent 90% of the time. If not, follow up with pricks and butterfly, surely it will finish the job. I agree that chinese has 1 secs pot delay, but rogue is the fastest damage dealer, that basically neutralized the 1sec potdelay from chinese by inflicting massive damages in a matter of couple secs ( how can u survive being hit by 2handskill follow up by dagger desperate )
I have tried with all the builds available in my servers, warrior/ cleric, rogue/ cleric, warrior/ warlock, glaiver, bower, nukers.... None have really lasted against me, to be honest

these build have no buff that help in pvp, i just, stun debuff trap+sleep and attack, and u will die in 2-4 attacks (count the KB attack that cancel ur attacks), lets say that u KD me and change to rogue +desperate and some attack, i have iron skin, advanced reflect, a shield to block + u are already debuffed, if u dont kill me you die fast cuz low hp(desperate), lets say u change of weapon to take off desperate and get some hp, u still die cuz you are debuffed and is easy to kill any warrior or rogue that dont have a sub class that help, thats how the sub warlock own the chineses cuz they dont have buff that cover them of debuff(some have buff against bad status but they dont max it = useless)

(notice that we are talking about this in 2 topics <.< choose one and lets talk there to no waste time posting the same about the same questions lol)

Notice that iron skin only last for 45 secs, and your debuffs that u cast on me can be cured by blue pills . I wouldnt be so foolish to attack u when u are under iron skin, obviously. I agree that your build's tactics usually are casting debuffs , stun, sleep, then attack, keep recycling it based on that concept. Usually the way that I counter those is switching to sword and shield, turn on my vital increase ( no need for iron skin yet),let you do your magical damages or watever. IF you do turn on iron when you are attacking me, I woudlnt even bother fighting back. IF you dont turn on iron skin, or when iron skin run out, thats when ur nightmare begins . I just need to pick a moment to knock u down first, use the blue pills to neutralize the debuffs u cast on me, turn on DD and hit away. If you turn on vital increase and are tough enough to survive through that much damages, when u stand up, I dont know how much longer u can last, but im pretty sure mortalwound on the ground, prick and butterfly follow up should inflick enough damages to finish you. IF you want to change to warlock and stun me, then you will lose your vital increase for 2 mins. . Even when u stun me and cast those debuffs curses over again then start attacking, all I need to do is turn on my iron skin and repeat the same tactics again also .
Im pretty sure the damages that I deal will be greater and faster than the damages that you deal Same str builds, same hp, go figure
I woudnt dare dicussing it if i havent pvp against your build. I did, quite a few times with my friend Daibang, warrior/ warlock. The tactics that he used is very similar to you as well.

[muyo]

Hi,

what do rogue poison circle do?do that help against warlock build?

[carnage]

Notice that iron skin only last for 45 secs, and your debuffs that u cast on me can be cured by blue pills . I wouldnt be so foolish to attack u when u are under iron skin, obviously. I agree that your build's tactics usually are casting debuffs , stun, sleep, then attack, keep recycling it based on that concept. Usually the way that I counter those is switching to sword and shield, turn on my vital increase ( no need for iron skin yet),let you do your magical damages or watever. IF you do turn on iron when you are attacking me, I woudlnt even bother fighting back. IF you dont turn on iron skin, or when iron skin run out, thats when ur nightmare begins . I just need to pick a moment to knock u down first, use the blue pills to neutralize the debuffs u cast on me, turn on DD and hit away. If you turn on vital increase and are tough enough to survive through that much damages, when u stand up, I dont know how much longer u can last, but im pretty sure mortalwound on the ground, prick and butterfly follow up should inflick enough damages to finish you. IF you want to change to warlock and stun me, then you will lose your vital increase for 2 mins. . Even when u stun me and cast those debuffs curses over again then start attacking, all I need to do is turn on my iron skin and repeat the same tactics again also .
Im pretty sure the damages that I deal will be greater and faster than the damages that you deal Same str builds, same hp, go figure
I woudnt dare dicussing it if i havent pvp against your build. I did, quite a few times with my friend Daibang, warrior/ warlock. The tactics that he used is very similar to you as well.

any build that is not immune to warlock lose agasint them, yes u have pills but you are gonna be dead before my debuff are over, stun+debuff+trap+sleep, attack with daredevill, KD, change to s/s and use cunning stab (if that dont kill you and the trap dindt explote yet thing that i doubt it) shield crush +spring assasult+ daring berzerker or cunning stab( you dont even touch me^^) ,lets say u used iron skin + vital i just sleep stun shield crush you till the iron is over and repeat the same strategy that i said or debuff you againt and the other stuff and kill u with 2h even the vital cant help you there, daredevil+KD+ 3swing(dunno the name) spring assasult(that is gonna stun you cuz the desease help to bad status)+daredevill again, if you attack me ur damage is gonna be very low cuz you are using vital, if you change of weapon you lose the warrior buff, for your info i never use vital increase agaisnt a full str and iron just only when is needed.

how you can attack me when i have shield crush(KB), 2 stuns, 1 sleep, spring assasult(KB/stun)and advanced reflect, you cant cuz you have no buff that help you, your build can be good at other stuff for pvp you are dead against another good build + a person that know how use it

[weymouthhall]

As I said, it is hard to debate unless we can try to pvp against each other. Your tactics are nothing new to me, my friend used the same ones as u did, just that he coudnt last through dagger damage once hes on the floor, thats the only problem
Your tactics may sound good, but warrior/ rogue build is specialized on fast weapon switch and situation adapting. what will you do with your shield crush, sprint assault, daring berzerker if you dont even have time or hp to use it. Dagger hit faster than 1hander, just a reminder

[carnage]

As I said, it is hard to debate unless we can try to pvp against each other. Your tactics are nothing new to me, my friend used the same ones as u did, just that he coudnt last through dagger damage once hes on the floor, thats the only problem
Your tactics may sound good, but warrior/ rogue build is specialized on fast weapon switch and situation adapting. what will you do with your shield crush, sprint assault, daring berzerker if you dont even have time or hp to use it. Dagger hit faster than 1hander, just a reminder

bah is useless debate about this i agree in that, read what i said before you post other question or more stuff saying the same.

you cant use DD against me when im attacking you or die, i doubt that you are able to switch weapons before u are dead.

stun+desease+debuff+trap+sleep now i attack using daredevill, KD change to 1h and cunning stab, in the whole process you cant do something, you are stuneed at the start, later sleep, daredevill do a KB(and u are already sleep) KD(u cant do anything in the ground) cunning stab deal more damage than 2h triple swing in the ground.

i stop posting about this cuz we never are going to end.

[muyo]

ok nevermind with theoritical pvp:P want to ask weymouth opinion..can this dual axe/rogue can work instead of 2h? more defense,more curse protection but stun is base on luck.

[weymouthhall]

Yes, it can work against euro rogues and warlock sub chars, but I would recommend 2hand and dagger against chinese chars though. Dual axe can hit fast and have nice damage, have decurse buffs that can cure most of warlock buffs, which is ideal against them, and can hit fast, cast stun with hit, which is great against rogue. But the damage wont be as much as 2handsword, and the defense wont be as much as 1handsword & shield. Against chinese chars, you have to adapt to the situation, switch to defense(sword and shield) when u are under heavy attacks or out of skin, switch to offense (2hander followed up by dagger most of the time) the moment that you see an opening. The good thing about this build is even cleric sub chars will have trouble defending against the damage that you deal, and once you can find an opening, dagger usually get the job done in less than 5 seconds max

[hanspicek]

Hey can you show me some pvp movies of your warrio/rogue??


Greetz

[UniqueSpawn]

Yes, it can work against euro rogues and warlock sub chars, but I would recommend 2hand and dagger against chinese chars though. Dual axe can hit fast and have nice damage, have decurse buffs that can cure most of warlock buffs, which is ideal against them, and can hit fast, cast stun with hit, which is great against rogue. But the damage wont be as much as 2handsword, and the defense wont be as much as 1handsword & shield. Against chinese chars, you have to adapt to the situation, switch to defense(sword and shield) when u are under heavy attacks or out of skin, switch to offense (2hander followed up by dagger most of the time) the moment that you see an opening. The good thing about this build is even cleric sub chars will have trouble defending against the damage that you deal, and once you can find an opening, dagger usually get the job done in less than 5 seconds max

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