My Tank(Sword&Shield Warrior) is now lv.50, And im suprized how bad it sucks at PvP Here my results of pvping(with VitalIncrease+IronSkin) Warlock:They stun/debuff me before I even get to attack them,eventually get killed Rogue:I just get one shot,even im buffed.. Wizard:They most of the time One hit me,if Im lucky enought to sprint assault them,I can kill them Bards&Cleric are support class,so dont get any experience against them, My question is,does tank always will sux at PvP? Or they have a bigger potential at pvping in higher levels?
Didn't you read the description of vital increase. It decreases your dmg by like 30-35%. Don't use it and use your skins. You can also take a sub, cleric for back up, warlock for more offense.
Don't judge a char (build) on pvping with 3 of the strongest (if managed well) builds in the game, try to pvp with a few chinese ones.
only_me wrote:why do u have a sword if u are a tanker ? switch to blade
Read the question lol, he's a warrior. He means a 1handed sword >.<
Are you full str? As normally an iron skin full strength shouldn't get 1 shoted by a rouge unless it's a crit ... I'm only a lvl 39 Rouge but warriors generally take me 2 - 3 shots when they aren't buffed and i don't crit.
Also wouldn't you want vital on till you are attacking then turn it off or does the downside last after it's on. As if I'm waiting to pvp I'd rather have the extra 1k hp that I can turn off once I atatck???
I'm obviously a Pure str lol... I guess I wont use Vital Increase
only_me wrote: Post subject: Re: The S/S Warrior;worst PvP class? Reply with quote Didn't you read the description of vital increase. It decreases your dmg by like 30-35%. Don't use it and use your skins. You can also take a sub, cleric for back up, warlock for more offense.
Don't judge a char (build) on pvping with 3 of the strongest (if managed well) builds in the game, try to pvp with a few chinese ones.
Chinese kill me even faster >.<,especially Nuker's
Are you sub-cleric? That should take care of most of your problems of staying alive yourself. Now, killing the other person may be tough for a 1H. You may want to switch to 2H for PvP, and use 1H for tanking (they rock at doing that).
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I'm 1h/cleric with mastery Lv56, and its not that much diffecult as you say in PVP, i do kill most of my lvl easy, even rouge with DD/CE or wizard with LC.. Few tips that might help you if you PVP against if you have cleric sub: Warlock: use holyword, and you get immuned from most of the boths, and you can use the if they used trap on you, KB, sprint assult, then do to hit skills, then again, KB, sprint assult ... etc, and they will day, note that you always should have recovery division. and if you think they are stronger than you, just before starting attacking, use bless shield, and healing cycle when you think you wont survive another pot. Rouges: use holyword, to resist against poison, use mana cycle before start, cause they do massive damage, i think with iron skin you should servive one shot if they are not higher lvl than you, you can use bless shield with iron skin, and that way you get 45sec to do the kill. Always plan to KB or sprint assult when they do their attacks, cause once they are KB or stunned, the attack would reset. I usually wait till they want to do the highest damage they have, i dont remember what its called, but you see like green lights around the xbow. Wizards: the easiest to kill, since you have enough HP to manage 1 hit, just have the cycle running, and just sprint assult, KB, and do one hit and they usually die if they have LC on, and they are also like rogues, once they are KB, their attack resets.
You can use vital increase if you get one hit and die, and try to KB, Sprint assult, and once they are dull or stunned, remove the vitallity and just attack and hope you kill them before they do another attack.
PVP against chinese is more diffecult, and hope you wont get stunned much, then you would do pretty good if you use skin and bless shield, but it will take more than 45sec with most chinese builds "hybirds or full str", so good luck ^^
welcomes wrote:I'm 1h/cleric with mastery Lv56, and its not that much diffecult as you say in PVP, i do kill most of my lvl easy, even rouge with DD/CE or wizard with LC.. Few tips that might help you if you PVP against if you have cleric sub: Warlock: use holyword, and you get immuned from most of the boths, and you can use the if they used trap on you, KB, sprint assult, then do to hit skills, then again, KB, sprint assult ... etc, and they will day, note that you always should have recovery division. and if you think they are stronger than you, just before starting attacking, use bless shield, and healing cycle when you think you wont survive another pot. Rouges: use holyword, to resist against poison, use mana cycle before start, cause they do massive damage, i think with iron skin you should servive one shot if they are not higher lvl than you, you can use bless shield with iron skin, and that way you get 45sec to do the kill. Always plan to KB or sprint assult when they do their attacks, cause once they are KB or stunned, the attack would reset. I usually wait till they want to do the highest damage they have, i dont remember what its called, but you see like green lights around the xbow. Wizards: the easiest to kill, since you have enough HP to manage 1 hit, just have the cycle running, and just sprint assult, KB, and do one hit and they usually die if they have LC on, and they are also like rogues, once they are KB, their attack resets.
You can use vital increase if you get one hit and die, and try to KB, Sprint assult, and once they are dull or stunned, remove the vitallity and just attack and hope you kill them before they do another attack.
PVP against chinese is more diffecult, and hope you wont get stunned much, then you would do pretty good if you use skin and bless shield, but it will take more than 45sec with most chinese builds "hybirds or full str", so good luck ^^
Some inconsistencies with what you're saying, and doesn't really go over well higher up in levels.
Since you're only Lv50 you really haven't been able to take full advantage of mana skin, nor the stronger attacks later on, i.e. cunning stab and daring beserker. However, at higher levels 1h is a joke when trying to kill another build (unless they're pure int euros, or 2h. Even then, it depends on your timing and luck). Also, don't ever start to pvp in vital increase unless you're like going up against a wizard where you're going to be needing more hp to take an extra hit or two. If you're just going to stay with 1h, then you're never going to be a "killer," but you sure are going to be a tanker. 1h's meant to tank; you wanna kill add some 2h skills as well.
Also, just a tip: if you go cleric sub, LA would be a good choice for the charity passive when used with blessings for the time inbetween bless spell and your skins (use bless spell first).
If you're wanting to be able to kill add some 2h skills as well; use 1h to tank, 2h to deal damage.
We should stop treating people like objects, or at least treat our objects with more respect.
Loki wrote::x My Tank(Sword&Shield Warrior) is now lv.50, And im suprized how bad it sucks at PvP Here my results of pvping(with VitalIncrease+IronSkin) Warlock:They stun/debuff me before I even get to attack them,eventually get killed Rogue:I just get one shot,even im buffed.. Wizard:They most of the time One hit me,if Im lucky enought to sprint assault them,I can kill them Bards&Cleric are support class,so dont get any experience against them, My question is,does tank always will sux at PvP? Or they have a bigger potential at pvping in higher levels?
easy...NEVER use vital increase for pvp thats only for partys of 8 to lure and tank.
vs str if u sub cleric i dunno how u lose cuz u get the better defence of the game IMO + cleric buff.
vs str if u sub warlock easy to kill and more faster than sub cleric.
vs int the same and is easy to kill them if u attack firts or if u use mana skin.
i think ur only problen is that u used vital increase, good luck
