reason people think euro are overpowered

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i was just thinking, arent euro's overpowered because the current chinese builds are made wrong?

I mean chinese weapons have both phy and mag attack, and the char uses weaapon+imbue to attack...
wouldnt it make sense that chinese are better as hybrids? the 70:70 bow builds/hybrid spears do well so it isnt like hybrids are bad...

just saying if chinese weapon and attack uses both int/str wouldnt they be better as hybrids, then if they are, the euros wouldnt be so overpowered as you think

looks like chinese arent maxing their char's ability if they just stick to 1 type of attack (phy or int) instead of using both

[hemagoku]

ya i agree with u

[DarkJackal]

Or maybe Euros are just overpowered since they the atk is a lot higher and they are able to 1 shot players their lvl ;d.

[TheDrop]

i was just thinking, arent euro's overpowered because the current chinese builds are made wrong?

I mean chinese weapons have both phy and mag attack, and the char uses weaapon+imbue to attack...
wouldnt it make sense that chinese are better as hybrids? the 70:70 bow builds/hybrid spears do well so it isnt like hybrids are bad...

just saying if chinese weapon and attack uses both int/str wouldnt they be better as hybrids, then if they are, the euros wouldnt be so overpowered as you think

looks like chinese arent maxing their char's ability if they just stick to 1 type of attack (phy or int) instead of using both

if a rogue can i crit a glavier, a warrior would easily crit a 70:70 glavier.

euros arent overpowered at all. they arent ur usual 123 kill builds. if a purely botted fights a legit chinese, the chinese will surely win. to play euro u need skills, not strong fingers to beable to press 123 faster =\.

while chinese is a 123 skilling build =\

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hm... people keep saying euro can 1 hit chinese... chinese can 1 hit the rogue/wizards too

[hemagoku]

Or maybe Euros are just overpowered since they the atk is a lot higher and they are able to 1 shot players their lvl ;d.

ya but a 20 lvls below me can kill me

[Vivacious!]

The BIGGEST problem i have with euro, is that they can selfbuff with cleric stuff.
Think about it, they're supposed to be all party, but they can just put it on THEMSELVES and they're Farking unkillable for 45 seconds, then warriors could also give themselves skins for another Farking 45 seconds. And while they have this amazing defense which you can rarely hope to do more than a few hundred or thousand on depending, they're gonna be getting insane crits of doing massive nukes on your ass. It sucks for cape cause I run away till there buff goes away and everyone is like "omg noob run lol noob fight me".
THen i go back with snow and own them and they're like "NO FAIR SNOWZ NUB".
BLEHZ

[jabbers]

i was just thinking, arent euro's overpowered because the current chinese builds are made wrong?

I mean chinese weapons have both phy and mag attack, and the char uses weaapon+imbue to attack...
wouldnt it make sense that chinese are better as hybrids? the 70:70 bow builds/hybrid spears do well so it isnt like hybrids are bad...

just saying if chinese weapon and attack uses both int/str wouldnt they be better as hybrids, then if they are, the euros wouldnt be so overpowered as you think

looks like chinese arent maxing their char's ability if they just stick to 1 type of attack (phy or int) instead of using both

that may seem to make sense now but if your like most everyone else as you get higher lvl you will have to cut alot from your skill trees, supposedly we will end up with only 2 trees but you would be a fool not to max both out. I think one of the reasons hybrids do so well at present is because they can have enough of these buffs and passives from their trees to boost their only average att/def. If anyone can post video from KSRO? I will like to see how this build will do in the future. maybe by than we will have PT+++ who knows

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its the cap i'm thinking of... having 2 skill trees maxed

it will be 2 force or weapon+force... if its weapon/force then half damage from imbue and half from weapon, hence they should be hybrid... if it is 2 force, well... isro just wont do that because nukers hate relying on other people :S lack of team play mentality on chinese chars

[alcoholic]

Euros arint overpowered sure there attake do ALOT but they die fast to...
Example: 2H warrior yes there damage is very deadly but if you attake first youd have a higher chance of killing him then there killing you.

remeber euro have a 15 sec pot delay.

Chinese dont hit as much as euro but will kill a euro as fast as a euro killing a chinese.

example: Wizards dam there DAMAGE IS HIGH! but what about there def? wizards probably hit the highest of any build in the game but if you get first hit on them there done.

my friend is a bowman the wizard kills him in 1 shot and he kills te wiz on 1 shot.

euros can kill high lvl chinese character like 5 lvls higher.
but a chinese can do the same...

so imo there equal

[theblindarcher]

Or maybe Euros are just overpowered since they the atk is a lot higher and they are able to 1 shot players their lvl ;d.

+1
They are just too strong! Some one need to kick their ass
farking clerics are beasts

[DarkJackal]

I'm not saying it's fair they get 1 hit too, THATS whats gay, it works both ways, you shoudln't be a 1 hit kill/1 shot killed =.=.

[pizzagirl2008]

anything + warlock for euro means chinese got no chance...yeah u can use firewall/icewalls which will just delay the inevitable.

if just one sub of euro can take out the entire chinese race...that should ring enough alarm bells to call imbalance of races.

euro 1v1 > chinese
euro 8v8 > chinese

i dun see how ppl who say game is already balanced understands the system.

[dannoob]

one of the strongest defenses against them right now would be ice, and since many people forget to self buff with hoyl word it proves wuite helpful. however whoever said that hitting warriors first means you can win has almost definitely not pvped one. with cleric sub they have insane def as well as their skins. Not only that but high crit and kb/kd are friggin annoying.

However on the most part it is one hit both ways. Euros one hit things 10 lvls above, chinese can one hit euros 10 lvls above. yes its possible i killed a lvl 46 wizard with my lvl 37 chinese nuker, lucky i got block though.

as for the hybrid thing, though possible seeing as how well 70:70 pacheon turned out, i still dont think it means chinese are meant to be hybs. plus i think SRO in general is more fun in party play whether your chinese or euro. makes the game more fun. so people need to stop thinking of the races as divided but think of them all as integral parts of a team. more fun that way.

an example would be the pro fw line up. in the front line they had glaivers with bladers and warriors, behind them was a line of wizards and bards with chinese nuekrs and behind them was a line of xbow rogues with archers. sure it didnt last long but it was friggin awesome when things first started. When people tried to get by the front lien to get the wizards, the archers kbd with the rogues and the rogues shot them as they were coming. still think it was pretty cool to see. we need to stop this single player mentality and think of both races as team players.

[NobleHunter]

The reason people think euros are overpowered is because they cant understand the role of the wizards/rogues in a party, they are damage dealers and both are the easiest builds to kill. Thats why some people say they suck and others say they are overpowered, euros are not meant to be played the same way as chineses. A wizard will always do massive damage and will always lack defense, but this changes in a party.
Ok, lets use bless spell and the wizard defense raise, he is still able to 1 hit but he cant be 1 hitted, he can do that if his sub is cleric or if there is a cleric in the party, ok now imagine the wizard+bless spell+ warrior buffs, the thing is very different now, the wizard will be able to kill a whole guild before he dies.
When solo, the wizard/rogue is condemned to die if they dont use his skills intelligently... its not about pressing keys and spam pots like a chinese character, it requires more strategy than some people think.
You dont like being owned by european players?
Raise your snow shield and fire combustion level.

[IC3M4N]

totaly agree euros are not over powerd each race has advantages and dis advantages, remermber those euros get ther pot delay and from expiernce that is one of there major disadavantages, chinese can spam pots and even vigors and if buffed correctly they win. rouges are one hitters yes i been playing RPG games for years and generaly thats is a rouge! rouges are stealth experts who attack there opponents from the shadows to make a killing blow. that is what i see a rouge as and in my short life in the D&D world that is what the word and class rouge means.

[Delirious]

just need to know how to utilize your skills and when and when to change from 2 hand weap to shield against a euro... be familiar with euro skills so you know when and what to do against it.

[Delirious]

totaly agree euros are not over powerd each race has advantages and dis advantages, remermber those euros get ther pot delay and from expiernce that is one of there major disadavantages, chinese can spam pots and even vigors and if buffed correctly they win. rouges are one hitters yes i been playing RPG games for years and generaly thats is a rouge! rouges are stealth experts who attack there opponents from the shadows to make a killing blow. that is what i see a rouge as and in my short life in the D&D world that is what the word and class rouge means.

with the vigors... if you spam them and kill the euro you get called "n00b" "cant win without vigors" etc... who cares... on another not to this... those special pills that remove weakening, restriction and curses how do you feel about them in a 1v1 pvp? im adding it here because i cant make a new topic -.-

[IC3M4N]

pfft i agree who cares if you get called noob, there in the game for a reason and they are there to be used. end of debate of that to me your not glitching or cheating your just doing whats there to be used. hmm as for the pills exactly the same they are there for a reason otherwise joymax wouldnt of included them in there game. :/

[Delirious]

only wish that can get through to people hahha...

[__ViRuS__]

well i agree with u and to be sure i gonna make a chinese hybrid and see

[HappyMonkey]

I'm not saying it's fair they get 1 hit too, THATS whats gay, it works both ways, you shoudln't be a 1 hit kill/1 shot killed =.=.

+1 with 1 hit it makes everything to easy.. needs to last a minute or two then you get some excitement

[NobleHunter]

I'm not saying it's fair they get 1 hit too, THATS whats gay, it works both ways, you shoudln't be a 1 hit kill/1 shot killed =.=.

+1 with 1 hit it makes everything to easy.. needs to last a minute or two then you get some excitement

Looks like you dont understand what he is explainig. And BTW i 1 hit my enemies and that doesnt mean this is boring, its a different play style, you should read the whole thread.

[Phix]

Or maybe Euros are just overpowered since they the atk is a lot higher and they are able to 1 shot players their lvl ;d.

this is the only reason euro are overpowered

and btw in ctf now euros kill 3 people with their earth attack. so yeah op to the max, chinese with lightning nuke transfer to 2 people and it the first but it does less damage on the transfered people and it doesnt 1hit the enemie.

[HappyMonkey]

Looks like you dont understand what he is explainig. And BTW i 1 hit my enemies and that doesnt mean this is boring, its a different play style, you should read the whole thread.

i get what hes saying im jjust saying its so much more boring 1 hitting everything or being 1 hit... thats what its basically like with an euro int.. but warrior can hold its ground longer but thats about the only one..

[Swindler]

Or maybe Euros are just overpowered since they the atk is a lot higher and they are able to 1 shot players their lvl ;d.

ya but a 20 lvls below me can kill me

time to get a better gear maybe?

[Domination]

As people have stated....Euros are not overpowered. They are just a diffrent style then china players. Each build in Euro side has its + and its -. Every build can be taken down, its just a matter of how its done. Who cares if China players get called "noobs" for useing Vigers in PvP....Euros do it too. Just test new ways of killing and see if it works. I am not sure about Hybrid China builds, but i have played as one. A Hybrid s/s is a very good build. They do amazing damage and can tank. I have seen a friend of mine beat a Warrior his lv (7x or 80 its been a while). The warrior could not kill him because of his skills and gear. Maybe hybrid is the way to go.

[tuinman159]

Let's keep things simple
Euros r overpowerd, but weak (S$Cks ass anyway)
Chinese r weaker compared to euro, but strong against their own race (racial build)

one more thing
why the f*ck do euros always attack and run safe zone again????? it's just another sign they s*ck

[foudre]

Let's keep things simple
Euros r overpowerd, but weak (S$Cks ass anyway)
Chinese r weaker compared to euro, but strong against their own race (racial build)

one more thing
why the f*ck do euros always attack and run safe zone again????? it's just another sign they s*ck

cowards do that, you wont' see me safe zone hide, i may hit and run as the builds are designed to do, but i run further away from town you have every chance to catch me compared to as if it were me assualting trade run, cape fighting is more like sparring then a real fight people seam to have forgotten that, but you don't see me safe zone hug, i think its just too pathetic

[ahmedsabry]

Let's keep things simple
Euros r overpowerd, but weak (S$Cks ass anyway)
Chinese r weaker compared to euro, but strong against their own race (racial build)

one more thing
why the f*ck do euros always attack and run safe zone again????? it's just another sign they s*ck

cowards do that, you wont' see me safe zone hide, i may hit and run as the builds are designed to do, but i run further away from town you have every chance to catch me compared to as if it were me assualting trade run, cape fighting is more like sparring then a real fight people seam to have forgotten that, but you don't see me safe zone hug, i think its just too pathetic

1-hit and run is not cowadly... actually stuff like rogues and wizard are MEANT to do this when joymax actaully made them!
personally im a rogue.. how the heck am i supposed to NOT hit and run if my def with DD on is decreased by a whopping 75% with a POT DELAY!!!
c'mon ppl.. its just a diffrent style from chines
anyway builds like rogue/cleric, rogue/warlock, rogue/warrior, warrior/anything, warlock/anything DONT run, so u cant just say "euros suck! they keep hitting and running away all the time"... those are just some limited builds (rogue/bard, wizard/bard ONLY)
2-anything with a warlock sub owns anyone in 1v1 pvp.. true, but does that make warlocks overpowerd?? i say no.. just 1 cleric in ur party would make the lock useless, so just look at it as a class that is risky. u take it all or lose it all, which make it yet ANOTHER different style, which is somehting healthy as u can see.