im having a on going "war" with people about how nukers are ment to be built. is it essential to have a weapon mastery? i mean light for speed, cold for def fire for power 90 light 90 fire 90 ice surely is stong?!? also you dont use weapon skills to lvl up do you?
ive heard many time ice is essential and i want speed which leaves me 3 options to choose 90light 90ice 90fire 90light 90ice 90bich 90light 90ice 90heasukal
i dont fancy force
please someone tell me WHY I NEED A MASTERY OR WHAT IS BETTER as a opinion?
thanks in advanced
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They are good support chars in Job wars.. Guild war and FW.. But when it comes to 1on1 pvp they just suck big time.. They can only kill a +4 +5 regular set user without any suns only if THEY have a SUN sword/spear.. And believe me.. I faught many nukers with that build.. Even a sun sword couldn`t kill me.. If you need a proof, just ask, and I`ll post it..
Norain_ wrote:if i would be lvl 150 i would be full int with lightning&cold at 150
Theres no info from JoyMax and no any other info ( Like equipment, skills, areas ) about 150 cap.. >.< Why do you guys talking about the max cap? You should get 90 cap first.. And it`ll take a while... So try to talk about something realistic..
You dont need force, you dont need to ress and heal. No need for chinese players to make support build. Thats are clerics for, and they do much better job at it cuz they are meant to played that way. 90 light 90 ice 90 heuksai thats how Im gona build my new nuker after Im done with my rogue (when I hit 90)
IMHO opinion a nuker can only go full force if they have full sun, if not then u need a wep to hinder ur oppenents attacking
s/s need KD so they can recover HP when they have it low(can't count how many times i've had under 2k hp and i got a KD to save my ass) also str can usually pot off nukes so u need to get status' on them to hit harder and a crit always helps
im 90% sure im going 60 light/cold and 90 fire/bicheon
guys i dont know y u dont use FIRE its vry good for a nuker ((MORE POWER)) i will make a nuker and i will use fire cuz its vry good damge and i will use cold only for def i will learn only cold skills and i will learn hueksual can any 1 tell me is what i said good or no??sure i will learn light for speeed too so tell me i dont know what to do about skils
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im undecisive about weather to go s/s or spear, i guess ill need to know what skills i need from both.
lightning for speed! doesnt matter about fire really, ice for defence is a MUST if its not, please tell me. and i want light no question about it. whats cheaper for the sp s/s or spear?
umm .. i am lvl 75 with 75 fire/cold/lightning .. i can say .. like MOSTLY no chinease under my lvl could beat me , but maybe its just cauze am fully farmed .. even glaviers take like 2~3 nukes if weak , good ones take time also , and i need to use my spear as well hoping for any critical , a critical YES i win , no critical , i will keep standing till my mana shield is done and i am dead .. if u want to pvp .. that aint a good build except u are sure u will have sun sword/spear , and dont expect to beat ppl with sun gears .
i WANT fire , am thinking about , 90fire/lightning/bicheon or huskal .. and 30 cold , will have a 25% mana shield and some defence .. and just pay some more gold on buying armor set and garment set , then i can be good at both against strs and ints .. or maybe like .. 70 lightning 50 cold .. or something , fire is just great .. if u check the skills in fire .. fire have like all the nukes , with greatest damages , and fire embue DOES add extra dmg .. am so confused myself and cant chose , am regret not making Coookiez a euro or an str now ..this is so stupid @.@
im farming now, i have almost 100k and still going so i will just need to find out what im going to do.
i would like to be good at pvp, i also will be plvling another char to farm at a higher lvl.
i will miss fire but i really really really want light for speed and ice will keep me alive in pvp def! s/s heauskal? looks like im not the only one with this problem
guys if light was only about speed i would have been glad to give it up and go one with drugs or get a bard with me -.- but its 8%dmg + and some nice dmging with good dmg range also nukes .. makes it alot more hard .. @.@
AngelMare wrote:guys if light was only about speed i would have been glad to give it up and go one with drugs or get a bard with me -.- but its 8%dmg + and some nice dmging with good dmg range also nukes .. makes it alot more hard .. @.@
Actualy its more than 8% .. I think its 16-18 % if I remember it right... And yeah, if Light was all about speed, I`d give it up for ice... But I really don`t want to lose the parry ratio from the passive and the Concentration buff.. And also, phantom which is very useful..
lol me too have probloms i dont know what to go s/s or spear FIRE or with small fire i think i will learn fire and let cold be some down and go spear for more damge and nice skills
Sinner wrote:They are good support chars in Job wars.. Guild war and FW.. But when it comes to 1on1 pvp they just suck big time.. They can only kill a +4 +5 regular set user without any suns only if THEY have a SUN sword/spear.. And believe me.. I faught many nukers with that build.. Even a sun sword couldn`t kill me.. If you need a proof, just ask, and I`ll post it..
Norain_ wrote:if i would be lvl 150 i would be full int with lightning&cold at 150
Theres no info from JoyMax and no any other info ( Like equipment, skills, areas ) about 150 cap.. >.< Why do you guys talking about the max cap? You should get 90 cap first.. And it`ll take a while... So try to talk about something realistic..
^Thanks Hostage
''Records don't make anybody do nothing. You make yourself do that'' Eazy E
It is very difficult to be good as a nuker. For pure str glaive or blade, all you really need to do ix max fire / weapon / and light. You don't need anything besides that, unless you want some extra unnecessary defense from ice. For a nuker, it is much more difficult to decide which skills to take. You could go all force, but that would weaken your ability to stay alive because of a lack of weapon skills. You could go fire / light / weapon, but you would lack cold defense. You could go light / cold / weapon, but you would lack the extra punch from fire. The reason I would suggest this last one is because for fire, you basically only use it for one skill, and the others one aren't so important, like physical attack increase. If you use lightning nukes, they are going to be pretty damn strong in the first place.
As for the guy who said Joymax hasn't said anything about 150 cap, think again. They mention it in-game. Just press H for help, go to "Play guide," then click on "Skill point." There it says, "The point is accumulated enough to learn 2 masteries but learning more than 2 masteries may slower the growth of your character due to the balance problem." Since max skill points possible to allot is 300, this suggest if you have two masteries (as the guide says), the max is 150 for each.
uBeR wrote: As for the guy who said Joymax hasn't said anything about 150 cap, think again. They mention it in-game. Just press H for help, go to "Play guide," then click on "Skill point." There it says, "The point is accumulated enough to learn 2 masteries but learning more than 2 masteries may slower the growth of your character due to the balance problem." Since max skill points possible to allot is 300, this suggest if you have two masteries (as the guide says), the max is 150 for each.
Have you thought that maybe they said that so you`ll lvl up faster? Since you lvl only masteries, you`ll lvl up much faster and wont have sp problem.. >.>
Sinner wrote:They are good support chars in Job wars.. Guild war and FW.. But when it comes to 1on1 pvp they just suck big time.. They can only kill a +4 +5 regular set user without any suns only if THEY have a SUN sword/spear.. And believe me.. I faught many nukers with that build.. Even a sun sword couldn`t kill me.. If you need a proof, just ask, and I`ll post it..
Edit: read to fast, didnt see that u were talking about just force using nukers, my bad
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Sinner wrote:They are good support chars in Job wars.. Guild war and FW.. But when it comes to 1on1 pvp they just suck big time.. They can only kill a +4 +5 regular set user without any suns only if THEY have a SUN sword/spear.. And believe me.. I faught many nukers with that build.. Even a sun sword couldn`t kill me.. If you need a proof, just ask, and I`ll post it..
He right.
Go for a Light/Ice build, you can never go wrong with that. Just choose whether you want to go with Heuksal (Higher damage, and overall higher DpS) or Bicheon for more tanking but less DpS.
