Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:23 pm
Hey guys what happens when a sun 2 handed fights a sun blader?
Who will win?
Your opinions....
Who will win?
Your opinions....
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Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
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Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:25 pm
2 handed alot of more Phy Damage on The Weapon and he also have awesome buffs
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 4:54 pm
blader, if they can tank multiple nukers, they can tank ONE 2h
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 5:53 pm
penfold1992 wrote:blader, if they can tank multiple nukers, they can tank ONE 2h
LOL! what kind of nukers? Chinese?! HAHAHA!! Bladers can't tank wizards like euro 2handers can with their buffs.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:07 pm
with my lvl 51 blader with a 8 gap, i could tank chinese nukers 5 lvls higher then me, with ease.
good equips and knockdown WAS COOL
good equips and knockdown WAS COOL
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:16 pm
I'm still laughing.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:18 pm
penfold1992 wrote:with my lvl 51 blader with a 8 gap, i could tank chinese nukers 5 lvls higher then me, with ease.
good equips and knockdown WAS COOL
Go face a euro wizard 10 levels BELOW you. They will own you.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:57 pm
Not at all. Wizards are easily the easiest kill in sro. Without their euro party a wizard is the most pathetic thing. Since they can't one hit people their lvl and chinese their lvl can it doesnt work out. A wizard does about 15k dmg a hit while a blader does about 2-3k. 2-3k coming at a fast rate with kds and the wiz is dead.
On topic:The sun 2h. With a crit 20 wep and massive dmg the 2h should win with ease.
On topic:The sun 2h. With a crit 20 wep and massive dmg the 2h should win with ease.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:08 pm
Knight_Ange1 wrote:penfold1992 wrote:with my lvl 51 blader with a 8 gap, i could tank chinese nukers 5 lvls higher then me, with ease.
good equips and knockdown WAS COOL
Go face a euro wizard 10 levels BELOW you. They will own you.
lol you never pvp'd with a blader i guess.
A wizard canNOT 1 hit a blader 10 lvls higher they even can't 1 hit a blader of same lvl with normal equips. And the wizard get killed of one snake skill or just a ranged skill.
Wizard is only good for partys and plvl nothing else.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:28 pm
How is this supposed to be a challenge?..
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:36 pm
cause sun blader also has sun shield!
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:19 pm
Wizards can do more than 15k dmg if u really watch them e.e Also clerics. Pure Offering o_o
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:32 pm
They really can't.
15k is on a Glaiver/ Archer.
On a blader its around 13k
On a sun blader its 10k.
Full sun blader: 7k.
Close estimates.
And Offering is by far the cheapest attack in the game. Its overpowered to an extreme. Most of the clerics just take turns doing this. They hide in safe zone wait for offering to recharge and use it then run back in safe zone.
Glaivers can lower this with Bloody Snake Storm.
But archers can't do much to lower it.
15k is on a Glaiver/ Archer.
On a blader its around 13k
On a sun blader its 10k.
Full sun blader: 7k.
Close estimates.
And Offering is by far the cheapest attack in the game. Its overpowered to an extreme. Most of the clerics just take turns doing this. They hide in safe zone wait for offering to recharge and use it then run back in safe zone.
Glaivers can lower this with Bloody Snake Storm.
But archers can't do much to lower it.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 8:34 pm
for the wiz blader discussion. i haev tried with a wiz and i do have problems killing bladers several levels above me. either because of block or because they are left without enough to just pot back up. while they can snake dance or blade force for insta kill. though occasionally i can pull it off.
as for warrior vs blader. though sun shield adds to it and gives block, i think the skins pushes this in favour of the warrior, as well as kb ANd kd
as for warrior vs blader. though sun shield adds to it and gives block, i think the skins pushes this in favour of the warrior, as well as kb ANd kd
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:11 pm
2 handed, with his buffs the warrior is almost invincible and with cleric subclass the warrior is like a fkn wall. Also 2 handed deal amazing damage.
DareDevil + crit = warrior wins
DareDevil + crit = warrior wins
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 10:46 pm
2 hand
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:46 am
It depends on what kind of blader we're talking. A Force blader (like myself) has Impotent x 2 (one from Force debuff, one from from Lightning Chain) at an 80% success rate, Bleed and Division. Add to that the shield passive and the shield buff that gives you ~50% higher blocking ratio. With a good shield this means that you will block a lot more than 50% of all attacks.
I also have my healing spells, both to heal HP (the highest one heals something like 6000HP I think) and remove status effects. I also have Vital Spot Muscle and Vital Spot Spirit, that decreases your parry ratio and attack rating, making you hit me for less damage, and making you easier for me to hit.
Cold 30 also gives me a 20% Snow Shield, and Lightning 90 increases my own Parry ratio by...a lot.
Add to this the knockdown + three stab attacks, and you're looking at an interesting fight.
I think that the Chinese Force blader is THE most overlooked class in the game.
I also have my healing spells, both to heal HP (the highest one heals something like 6000HP I think) and remove status effects. I also have Vital Spot Muscle and Vital Spot Spirit, that decreases your parry ratio and attack rating, making you hit me for less damage, and making you easier for me to hit.
Cold 30 also gives me a 20% Snow Shield, and Lightning 90 increases my own Parry ratio by...a lot.
Add to this the knockdown + three stab attacks, and you're looking at an interesting fight.
I think that the Chinese Force blader is THE most overlooked class in the game.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:00 am
a +7 2h/cleric can take down sun blader no problems.
a sun 2h/cleric ... i guess u can make ur conclusions there!
a sun 2h/warlock vs sun blader? there's no competition at all regardless if its force blader or what not.
a sun 2h/cleric ... i guess u can make ur conclusions there!
a sun 2h/warlock vs sun blader? there's no competition at all regardless if its force blader or what not.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:01 am
definitely a 2 Handed will win, they do more damage and have cool buffs.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:32 am
Depends who's behind the controls....
But in an equal match, the best way to prove is for 2 will full npc gear no blues, +, or % up's. To fight to the death. Same pot size both full farmed. That would be sufficient proof IMO
But in an equal match, the best way to prove is for 2 will full npc gear no blues, +, or % up's. To fight to the death. Same pot size both full farmed. That would be sufficient proof IMO
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:50 am
Exactly. I defeated a s/s nuker (lvl 32+) when I was lvl 29, just because he didn't know how to properly play his build. Instead of trying to use his knockdown skills, knock me down and use the time to nuke me, he just stood and tried to nuke me again and again. Since he was just lvl ~32, I knew he wasn't immune to ice, so I used my cold imbue to give him frostbite or freeze him, then he was an easy kill.Blackdragon6 wrote:Depends who's behind the controls....
If you don't know how to play it doesn't really matter what class you are. That's why all these fully farmed lvl 80 botters lose to players in the 7x's time and time again.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:59 am
with my lvl 51 blader with a 8 gap, i could tank chinese nukers 5 lvls higher then me, with ease.
good equips and knockdown WAS COOL
with my lvl 51 blader with a 8 gap, i could tank chinese nukers 5 lvls higher then me, with ease.
good equips and knockdown WAS COOL
MAN NUKERS ARE NOT THAT WEAK IM SURE THEY CAN BEAT U i know that they are not weak joymax will not make something all - and BTW i see some nukers pwn
euros but blader can pwn a 2h sword or wizard
wizard can beat u (LVL51) and he is lower than u (LVL42) can beat y easy
only chinese nukers are the good in chinese and 2hsword or wizard can beat any STR chinese
but when nuker it means luck and good gear weapon.....etc
because STR chinese are rele vry weak and a wizard can pwn any STR chinese
but i saw nukers pwn some euro warriors
that doesnt mean nukers are weak
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:31 am
A wizard won't 1-hit a blader with good equipment (especially not with Snow Shield or Fire Shield), so 1v1 they're not that good, since a single Snake Sword attack (ranged) will most likely kill the wizard. Put them in a party though, and they are lethal, with AoE attacks and whatnot.__ViRuS__ wrote:because STR chinese are rele vry weak and a wizard can pwn any STR chinese
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:49 am
Libertarian wrote:A wizard won't 1-hit a blader with good equipment (especially not with Snow Shield or Fire Shield), so 1v1 they're not that good, since a single Snake Sword attack (ranged) will most likely kill the wizard. Put them in a party though, and they are lethal, with AoE attacks and whatnot.__ViRuS__ wrote:because STR chinese are rele vry weak and a wizard can pwn any STR chinese
ok ok not all of the bladers will get good equpiments and wiz/cleric will be able to buff him self so he wont die 1 hit man
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:27 pm
Daredevil rapes with a sun sword. Daredevil crit = basically dead opponent, whatever he might be.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:49 pm
RogueKiller wrote:On topic:The sun 2h. With a crit 20 wep and massive dmg the 2h should win with ease.
Sun 2h crit 20?
Sun doesn't change the crit of euro weapons, only chinese.
The max crit of a 72 2H is 15, the max crit of a 64 sun is 15. (Check nivlam and/or euro sun weapon ss's and you'll see.
Also, a wizard can't 1-hit a blader in a good set. BUT - if the wizard does charge squal, followed by meteor (and if the blader doesn't block much) it will die.
Onto the topics question: It depends on the builds of the character.
If the warrior is bard, and the blader is force = blader will probably win.
If the warrior is warlock, it will win against any blader build.
If the warrior is cleric against a force blader... Well I think the 2H would win most of the time - but the blader may get a few kills.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:32 pm
RogueKiller wrote:Not at all. Wizards are easily the easiest kill in sro. Without their euro party a wizard is the most pathetic thing. Since they can't one hit people their lvl and chinese their lvl can it doesnt work out. A wizard does about 15k dmg a hit while a blader does about 2-3k. 2-3k coming at a fast rate with kds and the wiz is dead.
On topic:The sun 2h. With a crit 20 wep and massive dmg the 2h should win with ease.
You shure, did you ever saw wizard ingame lol.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:23 pm
2h sun would win , they tank and have great dammage, bladers only can tank
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:15 pm
Stress wrote:Daredevil rapes with a sun sword. Daredevil crit = basically dead opponent, whatever he might be.
Exactly.
I think you really need to experience this to see how overpowered the damn warrior actually is. A double crit on Dare Devil will demolish anything thats in your item range and even higher.
Not to mention a sun sword.
Re: Sun Blader VS Sun 2 Handed
Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:49 pm
X4rd4S wrote:RogueKiller wrote:Not at all. Wizards are easily the easiest kill in sro. Without their euro party a wizard is the most pathetic thing. Since they can't one hit people their lvl and chinese their lvl can it doesnt work out. A wizard does about 15k dmg a hit while a blader does about 2-3k. 2-3k coming at a fast rate with kds and the wiz is dead.
On topic:The sun 2h. With a crit 20 wep and massive dmg the 2h should win with ease.
You shure, did you ever saw wizard ingame lol.
100% sure.
Show me a video where a wizard one hits someone their own lvl. Also a wizard that can tank without a euro party/buffs behind them. Mostly buffs from another class that they don't have.
The power of a wizard is exaggerated by everyone. They do dmg but they don't 1 hit.