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Anyone here play a pure int lvl 70-80? Do you ever win at pvp? I know alot of ppl say pure int suxs, but for those that actually know how to use it ( s/s, good pimped equip, good usage of skills )

Do you win often at all with pure int?

I say lvl 60 is the cutoff since at the last CTF event, I PWNED everyone my lvl. I was lvl 55 and making anywhere from 40+ tickets per round. 5 vs 1 pure str and I still lived through and killed off all 5. However, I'm starting to notice pure str kicking my ass more now and it's just getting plain harder.

SO I ask all you higher lvls, is pure int still good at higher lvls and why? ie: Share you exp pls ^^

I am level 61 and same here last ctf event i was lvl 46 and i was crushing lvl 51 strs like ants but im noticing that im not able ti kill str builds even below me lvl now. I had full sos +5 set at 6d though and now im using a plain +3/+5 set but still glavires use Soul Spear Soul and thaty move alone will kill me.but i dont know i went through a build change i was pure INT spear and i have changed to s/s so i have about 800 less HP and weaker nukes so im not the person to ask.

But yea i am noticing it and as a result i made a pure STR glavie LOL so hopfully i can own with him soon.

I am now level 69 on my pure int build. And i must say it owns! Granted, i have full sox gear and extremely pimped out to make him 120% balance.....but i do have a plain 2nd tier set which i sue for nubs who say im a "sos noob" or whatever haha. And even then...i do very well in pvp. Just today infact, i took a level 72 full str glaive +5 in garments during pvp! It wasnt quick either, i tanked him even past snow shield, and eventually got the kill.

Stay s/s, ideal gear is protector! But if you can afford som...go garments! Forget sos, it really is just a filler type equip till you hit 3rd tier for ur degree.

lean how to use the build, and you will own as you did at level 40!

i think the reason you guys owned str builds at lower levels was because str builds dont getter their best skills till higher levels

yep... at 60 is basically where strs get their damaging skills...

you owned at low lvls with nukes because you got your "final" weapon as a nuke + weapons skills
str around 40-50 still uses lv 30s skills while new ones are on cooldown

pure ints can own but they also get owned...

^ they are all right. pure ints do have a tougher time killing at higher lvls but all you need are good stats, snow shield (really helps), and good strategy lol..go to the video section and see a high lvl pureint spear nuker pvping...she? is pretty much owning lol.

Ints and hybrid ints are equipment dependent. At any level below cap, hybrids need better equips to deal more damage, while ints need better equips to survive the pvp. An int could at times survive pvp at level 60 if they "cheat" with xlarge hp pots and vigors. Equipment discrepancy is usually the problem with below cap pvp, so its hard to say for certain to generalize isolated pvp outcomes.

They get more health. Over time strength builds will be dominant for the amount of health they have. Although now it isn't a huge difference, at higher levels it is huge. Think of it this way, Lvl 2 Int HP and Lvl 2 Str HP are almost the same, but, Lvl 80 Int HP is 4732 and Lvl 80 Str HP is 16060. The HP does not scale at a balanced rate compared to Full Int damage. The health eventually even overtakes Wizard's damage at higher caps. 60+ is probably where it starts to lean more towards Full Str builds.

I try to tank a Glavie with my spear nuker lvl80 +5 gear full farm and i kill him only 1 and after snow shield run off he kill me with only 1 chian stun and kb and game over
i started to love glavie ever since plan to get 1 if 90cap don't come out so soon lol

Ok thnks for the replies so far.

So from what i've read in other forums and just googling, ppl seem to be choosing between pure str, int hybrid 1:7, and pure int.

So a common question i saw but none that was answered clearly, how is the dmg diff between int hybrid 1:7 and pure int. And what is a good tradeoff between str and int? Like how much str do you add when you start to notice the dmg decrease?

Also, I heard that adding str will increase your crit dmg. Is this true? I've heard lots of numbers, add 12 str, add 20, add 30, even add 50 >_> so just how many str points does it take before your nukes don't hit as hard.

I'm asking because i LOVE ksing with my nukes . THe only fun part of grinding really for me. See some giant, dash up and ks it with a few nukes. Even better when the person i'm ksing is a few lvls above me or a bot ^^

Also i do what to always hit hard. Seeing as bots is a big problem and they tend to grind at a spot where the monsters are alot weaker than them, ex) lvl 64+ bots grinding at penons still >_>

hm str adds to non crit damage from weapons too...

i like 90:40 for hybrid str since with full blue they are 100:50
same thing for hybrid int but 56:90 and blues go to 67:108

but hybrids are tricky :S if you go by balance, its fine but hybrids also depend a lot on what blues you can get... later caps will get more str/int per item so it could be 80% balance getting to 100% with blues so you dont have to keep a 90% naked balance but can be more hybrid

I am 61 full int in armor until 8d with a sos +5 spear and no str can kill me. unles they pack 50 60 mil + in gear and maybe 100m for a weapon 2. my build is all force fire/light/cold nuker. not a int blader or spearman. i will run and hide until some one tanks at higher levels then come back and back stab. thats my play style and thats how i own ..

Hideoki wrote:I am now level 69 on my pure int build. And i must say it owns! Granted, i have full sox gear and extremely pimped out to make him 120% balance.....but i do have a plain 2nd tier set which i sue for nubs who say im a "sos noob" or whatever haha. And even then...i do very well in pvp. Just today infact, i took a level 72 full str glaive +5 in garments during pvp! It wasnt quick either, i tanked him even past snow shield, and eventually got the kill.

Stay s/s, ideal gear is protector! But if you can afford som...go garments! Forget sos, it really is just a filler type equip till you hit 3rd tier for ur degree.

lean how to use the build, and you will own as you did at level 40!

120% mag balance? Without Euro buffs? Pl0x...

Pure INT pwns at this cap.. with snowshield you can tank just about anything while still be able to kill them. Even when the new premium PLUS came out, I could still beat almost all of the glaviers that had it while I was still with the regular one. We shall see how things will go at 90 cap.. but I reckon that dropping fire for Light will not be THAT much of a loss.

Goseki wrote:Anyone here play a pure int lvl 70-80? Do you ever win at pvp? I know alot of ppl say pure int suxs, but for those that actually know how to use it ( s/s, good pimped equip, good usage of skills )

Do you win often at all with pure int?

I say lvl 60 is the cutoff since at the last CTF event, I PWNED everyone my lvl. I was lvl 55 and making anywhere from 40+ tickets per round. 5 vs 1 pure str and I still lived through and killed off all 5. However, I'm starting to notice pure str kicking my ass more now and it's just getting plain harder.

SO I ask all you higher lvls, is pure int still good at higher lvls and why? ie: Share you exp pls ^^

hehe make a character on babel and whisper me, I will show you how strong a properly built, farmed and geared up int is and how good it is, without any suns or moons shitz. You will see what the best build in the game truely is.

with snow shield max i was able to tank a zerked glavie
i think s/s will own even more even with that crit plus stab

LockStar. wrote:

Hideoki wrote:I am now level 69 on my pure int build. And i must say it owns! Granted, i have full sox gear and extremely pimped out to make him 120% balance.....but i do have a plain 2nd tier set which i sue for nubs who say im a "sos noob" or whatever haha. And even then...i do very well in pvp. Just today infact, i took a level 72 full str glaive +5 in garments during pvp! It wasnt quick either, i tanked him even past snow shield, and eventually got the kill.

Stay s/s, ideal gear is protector! But if you can afford som...go garments! Forget sos, it really is just a filler type equip till you hit 3rd tier for ur degree.

lean how to use the build, and you will own as you did at level 40!

120% mag balance? Without Euro buffs? Pl0x...

Pure INT pwns at this cap.. with snowshield you can tank just about anything while still be able to kill them. Even when the new premium PLUS came out, I could still beat almost all of the glaviers that had it while I was still with the regular one. We shall see how things will go at 90 cap.. but I reckon that dropping fire for Light will not be THAT much of a loss.

+1 I dont think its even possible to have 120% show a SS or it didnt happen, the highest I've seen is 116% and that int 5 on every item including the shield

currently at this lvl INT can beat strs, if you but 2 players against each other with the same gear the INT has a good chance of winning IF he has a good snow shield, if the str gets a good crit he will win but if snow shield wears off its game over.

with euro INT's its differnt, they will win 60-80% or the time unless you attack them from behind, if they know your coming they can be very difficult to beat if you know how to play them.

Personally (I play on Aege) a pure int S/s nuker is the strongest build in my server. Currently at 80 Cap most of these nukers are either,
80 fire/light/Sword 60 Ice. This build with the combo of 40% Snow Shield and Iron wall shield will defeat any Pure str except a Force glaiver.
Or they got 80 Light/Ice/Sword 60 Fire. With a 50% snow shield and iron wall shield maxed you can take down about anything but fights against a Blader might end at a pot war. So from my point in Aege server a pure int Sword Shield will win just about any PvP minus Euro battles which are easy to counter if ur smart. Or it just might be my 72+9 sword =].

Pure int s/s owns all , i have a friend on sparta that own all (almost xD) full int prot no suns just +5 set +7 sword shield and he kill everything even gay warriors, he is ligth cold bicheon and u will never kill him with snow shield (he is lvl 80 farmed) just warlocks can do the job and is bit hard coz he kd all time >.< i see him tank more than much bladers (noobies i think)

Amalie wrote:

Goseki wrote:Anyone here play a pure int lvl 70-80? Do you ever win at pvp? I know alot of ppl say pure int suxs, but for those that actually know how to use it ( s/s, good pimped equip, good usage of skills )

Do you win often at all with pure int?

I say lvl 60 is the cutoff since at the last CTF event, I PWNED everyone my lvl. I was lvl 55 and making anywhere from 40+ tickets per round. 5 vs 1 pure str and I still lived through and killed off all 5. However, I'm starting to notice pure str kicking my ass more now and it's just getting plain harder.

SO I ask all you higher lvls, is pure int still good at higher lvls and why? ie: Share you exp pls ^^

hehe make a character on babel and whisper me, I will show you how strong a properly built, farmed and geared up int is and how good it is, without any suns or moons shitz. You will see what the best build in the game truely is.

Btw, I'm pure int too. I'm just debating if i wanna stay pure int or not. I planned on adding between 20-30-50 str points, but i'm not sure if there will be a big dmg trade-off. I love to run around and ks ppl, but my goal is to be a hunter. My gf and lots of friends are still low lvl and I want to be able to help protect my union, cheesy yes, but it gives me a reason to actually go past lvl 50 >_>. I just need to know how well a pure int can hold up in pvp. Specially with 90 cap coming, the skill tree for china gets really narrowed down.

Defense will have to be given up and nukes will start to focus. Weps vs force powers. Eventually I plan on being light sword. Hopefully nukes and kd will work. Supplied with division and stun from the chains. Seems like a good build, just not sure if str is needed to survive seeing as snow shield will eventually be gone...

OK yeah i'm pretty confused still. PPl seem to say that pure int owns in pvp when it's not a sun war, anyone have ideas about 90 cap? I know it's a bit early to ask seeing as it's not out in iSRO yet, but taking the fact that your skills we be narrowing down soon, any high lvl have a good idea of how well they think their character will do in pvp when they have no ice buffs on???

ArchangeI wrote:Pure int s/s owns all , i have a friend on sparta that own all (almost xD) full int prot no suns just +5 set +7 sword shield and he kill everything even gay warriors, he is ligth cold bicheon and u will never kill him with snow shield (he is lvl 80 farmed) just warlocks can do the job and is bit hard coz he kd all time >.< i see him tank more than much bladers (noobies i think)

ooo yeah yeah

with my warlock i can kill any full int with only a bloody trap and one dot only ( Not using the nukes and the other things )

and if he got very much str from the set it take bloody trap with 2 dot and maybe nuke him

I don't know what are you talking about maybe he pvp with lvl 75- warlocks and not farm , btw Warlocks can kill Sosun ints ( but need some luck with this ) i don't know what are you talking about , he kd all the time ? , he can't get close and touch a warlock only if he lucky and if he do it it does'nt matter Because a warlock will already debuff him and will not die that fast like others ints and with the Euro shield if it +7 with a warlock rod , nukers are vanish

Explane to me , or maybe he got buffs from Cleric



Sorry if i bother you

Del Piero wrote:ooo yeah yeah

with my warlock i can kill any full int with only a bloody trap and one dot only ( Not using the nukes and the other things )

and if he got very much str from the set it take bloody trap with 2 dot and maybe nuke him

I don't know what are you talking about maybe he pvp with lvl 75- warlocks and not farm , btw Warlocks can kill Sosun ints ( but need some luck with this ) i don't know what are you talking about , he kd all the time ? , he can't get close and touch a warlock only if he lucky and if he do it it does'nt matter Because a warlock will already debuff him and will not die that fast like others ints and with the Euro shield if it +7 with a warlock rod , nukers are vanish

Explane to me , or maybe he got buffs from Cleric

Cold wall seems to deal fine with Warlock Debuffs if you don't got a cleric around that's handy lol..

Ningyotsukai-san wrote:

Del Piero wrote:ooo yeah yeah

with my warlock i can kill any full int with only a bloody trap and one dot only ( Not using the nukes and the other things )

and if he got very much str from the set it take bloody trap with 2 dot and maybe nuke him

I don't know what are you talking about maybe he pvp with lvl 75- warlocks and not farm , btw Warlocks can kill Sosun ints ( but need some luck with this ) i don't know what are you talking about , he kd all the time ? , he can't get close and touch a warlock only if he lucky and if he do it it does'nt matter Because a warlock will already debuff him and will not die that fast like others ints and with the Euro shield if it +7 with a warlock rod , nukers are vanish

Explane to me , or maybe he got buffs from Cleric

Cold wall seems to deal fine with Warlock Debuffs if you don't got a cleric around that's handy lol..

ROFL Warlock can kill nuker very faster

a cold wall with a bow man you talking about not a nuker

btw Coldwall is a long way to do it and warlock moves very fast and inturiting move stun and sleep

Therefore a bowman will be already debuffs and that if he do it because it's hard to do cold wall with a warlock lol

btw i say bowman not nuker , it's easy to kill nuker

and

Who in the hell nuker can do cold wall v.s warlock

Only if a botter noob warlock don't know how to deal with it

pure ints do own i know this from experience from a glavier but if they just stand there spaming nukes their pretty much worthless even with snow i stun and they sit their still trying to nuke me while i stun and kb them canceling their nukes often they try to put in a skill but due to their pure int ness their just junk ready to be killed even for people with sos people with 3rd teir ur sos is bull shit to us +5 gear is more then +5 sos gear why waste the money to buy it

BTW

nukers Rocks when they have a strong set and have many str

Good luck

I don't see why Str chars should get much stronger at 60+ The only think they get is the big magical defense boost from fire I think.

Amalie wrote:

Goseki wrote:Anyone here play a pure int lvl 70-80? Do you ever win at pvp? I know alot of ppl say pure int suxs, but for those that actually know how to use it ( s/s, good pimped equip, good usage of skills )

Do you win often at all with pure int?

I say lvl 60 is the cutoff since at the last CTF event, I PWNED everyone my lvl. I was lvl 55 and making anywhere from 40+ tickets per round. 5 vs 1 pure str and I still lived through and killed off all 5. However, I'm starting to notice pure str kicking my ass more now and it's just getting plain harder.

SO I ask all you higher lvls, is pure int still good at higher lvls and why? ie: Share you exp pls ^^

hehe make a character on babel and whisper me, I will show you how strong a properly built, farmed and geared up int is and how good it is, without any suns or moons shitz. You will see what the best build in the game truely is.

Full int bow!

How big if a dmg reduction do you get when you go from pure int, i have 116% mag balance, to hybrid int, say i add 30 str points. Will the dmg reduction be noticeble from the nukes? Also, does adding str increase the power of sword chains, kd, stab, etc????