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. BTW getting a warlock to 20 shouldnt take u more than 3 days of playing 2-3 hours .Da_Realest wrote:Go Dual Axe. It seems to be the hybrid of the Warrior class. You don't have the great tanking ability of a 1hd sword user and you don't have the great power of a 2hd sword user. However, you'll also be more unique and look cool at that the same time. Everyone seems to be going Warlock so I don't see any reason to be a Warlock. I've played both a Warlock and Dual Axe and I had equal amounts of fun with each. Warlock = grinding fast. Dual Axe = looking good while grinding. You can't go wrong with either one.
Scranton wrote:Da_Realest wrote:Go Dual Axe. It seems to be the hybrid of the Warrior class. You don't have the great tanking ability of a 1hd sword user and you don't have the great power of a 2hd sword user. However, you'll also be more unique and look cool at that the same time. Everyone seems to be going Warlock so I don't see any reason to be a Warlock. I've played both a Warlock and Dual Axe and I had equal amounts of fun with each. Warlock = grinding fast. Dual Axe = looking good while grinding. You can't go wrong with either one.
Yes, because as long as you look cool when you grind, that's all that matters. In fact, you'll even look cool when you die.
Read again. I mention more than looking good. The other attributes of Dual Axe are implied. Well, I did say hybrid... Anyway, I've made a Dual Axe and did fairly well. Just because you seem to have failed doesn't mean others will as well.
Its all about having fun. I don't wanna grind a build all the way to the cap just because it seems great but isn't any fun.[/color]
I assumed that one would use deductive reasoning to conclude that Dual Axe is mediocre at tanking and giving damage based on me calling the build a hybrid and stating the main advantages the other warrior builds have over it. I only put emphasis on looking good because thats seems to be a big contributing factor to how much fun someone has while playing the game. Why else would people use pk2 to input high level skills animations, premium apparel, and higher degree gear?Scranton wrote:Ok let me read again...
Go Dual Axe. It seems to be the hybrid of the Warrior class. You don't have the great tanking ability of a 1hd sword user and you don't have the great power of a 2hd sword user. However, you'll also be more unique and look cool at that the same time. Everyone seems to be going Warlock so I don't see any reason to be a Warlock. I've played both a Warlock and Dual Axe and I had equal amounts of fun with each. Warlock = grinding fast. Dual Axe = looking good while grinding. You can't go wrong with either one.
You're saying, even though you don't have the great tanking ability of a 1hd sword user and you don't have the great power of a 2hd sword user, it's ok because you look unique and cool.
Also, you say Warlock - grinding fast, and Dual Axe = looking good while grinding.Read again. I mention more than looking good. The other attributes of Dual Axe are implied. Well, I did say hybrid... Anyway, I've made a Dual Axe and did fairly well. Just because you seem to have failed doesn't mean others will as well.
Its all about having fun. I don't wanna grind a build all the way to the cap just because it seems great but isn't any fun.[/color]
I haven't made a dual axe warrior yet. I think it's because it'll be all too flashy/fancy when I go to grind. Probably will make me lose my concentration
raphaell666 wrote:
Note: As far as I know, a DA warrior will most probably win against a warlock (normal conditions).
ahmedsabry wrote:raphaell666 wrote:
Note: As far as I know, a DA warrior will most probably win against a warlock (normal conditions).
very untrue.. warlock as a main mastery , with a wizard or cleric sub can kill almost any other class in the game by the "stun-debuff-kill" thingy..
using cleric's "pure offering" on a debuffed opponent does a minimum of 30k+ damage
ahmedsabry wrote:very untrue.. warlock as a main mastery , with a wizard or cleric sub can kill almost any other class in the game by the "stun-debuff-kill" thingy..
using cleric's "pure offering" on a debuffed opponent does a minimum of 30k+ damage
raphaell666 wrote:ahmedsabry wrote:very untrue.. warlock as a main mastery , with a wizard or cleric sub can kill almost any other class in the game by the "stun-debuff-kill" thingy..
using cleric's "pure offering" on a debuffed opponent does a minimum of 30k+ damage
I'm not completely sure about this, so lets just debate. Here is what I thought when saying that:
I'm talking about warlock with no subclasses and dual axe with no subclasses.
Let me think: The warlock will not be likely to be able to debuff the dual axe, and I'm not sure, but I think that with cleric as sub the dual axe will be completely undebuffable, or would it be impossible to debuff already with the dual axe passive? And the dual axe would probably use mana shield. I dont know what are the tanking abilities of warlock using sucking life skills, but I presume it wouldnt be much, am I wrong? Anyways the dual axe will prolly stun the warlock, and then there will be nothing the warlock can do about it. If the warlock stuns the warrior he will not die, because he will prolly have the mana shield on. Even if nobody is never stunned, I still think that the dual axe will more easily kill the warlock (the warrior will be with mana shield).
Well, I admit that these assumptions are way too superficial, a lot of things could vary, and subclasses would change a lot this matter. Anyways, it was a thoughtless decision of mine.
About the subclasses: a lot of combinations can be deadly. And that happens with mostly all classes. But I doubt a warlock will be able to kill a good player with either sub or main class cleric. Anyways, warlocks can easily kill all chineses, and most of the euros too. So I understand your point.
Also, at an upcoming update it looks like there will be new blues on accessories in which you will be able to resist warlock debuffs, so things are probably going to change.
noobert mclagg wrote:Warlock could still debuff cause with vampire skills disease it makes ur debuffs almost never fail and it raises them up to its lvl. Holy word protects up to lvl 8 curses and disease goes up to lvl 9, so all of ur debuffs would be lvl 9. With the debuffs on mana skin would be pretty much disregarded and they would lower DA already low attack power. Also, warlock has an 80% chance to stun when DA only has a 50% chance and even if warlocks stun fails he can always use sleep. warlock also has a shield so unless it completely sucks u will prolly get at least 1 block. Finally, warlock has many skills that do absolute damage so DA defensive capabilities would be negated.
noobert mclagg wrote:raphaell666 wrote:ahmedsabry wrote:very untrue.. warlock as a main mastery , with a wizard or cleric sub can kill almost any other class in the game by the "stun-debuff-kill" thingy..
using cleric's "pure offering" on a debuffed opponent does a minimum of 30k+ damage
I'm not completely sure about this, so lets just debate. Here is what I thought when saying that:
I'm talking about warlock with no subclasses and dual axe with no subclasses.
Let me think: The warlock will not be likely to be able to debuff the dual axe, and I'm not sure, but I think that with cleric as sub the dual axe will be completely undebuffable, or would it be impossible to debuff already with the dual axe passive? And the dual axe would probably use mana shield. I dont know what are the tanking abilities of warlock using sucking life skills, but I presume it wouldnt be much, am I wrong? Anyways the dual axe will prolly stun the warlock, and then there will be nothing the warlock can do about it. If the warlock stuns the warrior he will not die, because he will prolly have the mana shield on. Even if nobody is never stunned, I still think that the dual axe will more easily kill the warlock (the warrior will be with mana shield).
Well, I admit that these assumptions are way too superficial, a lot of things could vary, and subclasses would change a lot this matter. Anyways, it was a thoughtless decision of mine.
About the subclasses: a lot of combinations can be deadly. And that happens with mostly all classes. But I doubt a warlock will be able to kill a good player with either sub or main class cleric. Anyways, warlocks can easily kill all chineses, and most of the euros too. So I understand your point.
Also, at an upcoming update it looks like there will be new blues on accessories in which you will be able to resist warlock debuffs, so things are probably going to change.
Warlock could still debuff cause with vampire skills disease it makes ur debuffs almost never fail and it raises them up to its lvl. Holy word protects up to lvl 8 curses and disease goes up to lvl 9, so all of ur debuffs would be lvl 9. With the debuffs on mana skin would be pretty much disregarded and they would lower DA already low attack power. Also, warlock has an 80% chance to stun when DA only has a 50% chance and even if warlocks stun fails he can always use sleep. warlock also has a shield so unless it completely sucks u will prolly get at least 1 block. Finally, warlock has many skills that do absolute damage so DA defensive capabilities would be negated.
Advancechao wrote:Sorry Noobert, debuffs don't quite work like that. Holy Spell defends against any level 8 status, like you said. However, Disease status does not make all the other statuses level 9. As a result, you would still get Resists for everything except Wheel Bind. If you fight someone who has Holy Spell, the only thing you can do is Vampire Touch for disease, stun, Wheel Bind, and DoT, and it is probably enough to kill your opponent as long as you have two stun skills after 76. If you aren't at 76 yet, you can only rely on blocks or stun to win, because sleep will not work either.
ahmedsabry wrote:raphaell666 wrote:
Note: As far as I know, a DA warrior will most probably win against a warlock (normal conditions).
very untrue.. warlock as a main mastery , with a wizard or cleric sub can kill almost any other class in the game by the "stun-debuff-kill" thingy..
using cleric's "pure offering" on a debuffed opponent does a minimum of 30k+ damage
