70:70 / 80:50 bower? whats better? looking forward to 90 cap

[DarkShadow]

Hey all!

I have a problem...
I'm lvl 42 bower with 70:70 balance. But now i am thinking to build an 80:50 balance.

I skilled
pacheon: lvl 33
ice: lvl 33
lightning: lvl 33
fire: lvl 33

So what are u thinking is better and with which skills should i go on ?

[Doctor_MOS]

80:50 got more hp, less damage

70:70 less hp, more damage..pretty hard isn't it

70:70
-less hp, runs higher snowshield, depends heavier on snowshield
-more dps.
-for me most fun build to play

80:50
-more hp, can run around 25-30% snowshield. Throws snow shield out when he's low on hp.

[Mefra]

Well, for the 90 cap the 80:50 build might be better, cause then you don't have to get the cold tree very high.

90 pacheon
90 fire
90 lightning
30 cold

I think that for a 70:70 build you'll need a higher snow shield so my guess is you'll need cold at 60 (might be a little bit higher or lower). Also because you're int based, you might as well take the lightning tree maxed or at least at a high level. This means you'll basicly have to level 4 trees, or drop fire. But because you're hybrid you'll want the physical attack damage increases so I would go for a more strength based archer and leave the cold behind.

[aazumak]

Well, for the 90 cap the 80:50 build might be better, cause then you don't have to get the cold tree very high.

90 pacheon
90 fire
90 lightning
30 cold

I think that for a 70:70 build you'll need a higher snow shield so my guess is you'll need cold at 60 (might be a little bit higher or lower). Also because you're int based, you might as well take the lightning tree maxed or at least at a high level. This means you'll basicly have to level 4 trees, or drop fire. But because you're hybrid you'll want the physical attack damage increases so I would go for a more strength based archer and leave the cold behind.

+1

[Doctor_MOS]

since a 70:70 build is already int based, you got a decent mag defence. So when you're a 70:70 bower you proberly want to max out cold/lightning/pacheon, and put the rest in fire.

You don't need fire as 70:70 bower, it's really not neccesery.

the difference between having a fire of level 60 and 32 isn't great, it's about 5% phy damage extra/less. Since you're int based you really don't need that.

Still, I remember Elnawawi disagreeing with me, In his opinion 90 light/pacheon and 60 fire/cold would work better, ah well.

*edit* 70% of your attack power as 70:70 comes from int, 30% from phy. That's why you don't really need fire at higher caps.

[DarkShadow]

since a 70:70 build is already int based, you got a decent mag defence. So when you're a 70:70 bower you proberly want to max out cold/lightning/pacheon, and put the rest in fire.

You don't need fire as 70:70 bower, it's really not neccesery.

the difference between having a fire of level 60 and 32 isn't great, it's about 5% phy damage extra/less. Since you're int based you really don't need that.

Still, I remember Elnawawi disagreeing with me, In his opinion 90 light/pacheon and 60 fire/cold would work better, ah well.

*edit* 70% of your attack power as 70:70 comes from int, 30% from phy. That's why you don't really need fire at higher caps.

and which imbue should i take, ice or lightning?
is 70:70 with snow shield better than 80:50 when 90 cap is realesed?

ps: thx to all who answered and to all who will^^

[sinny]

according to the people posts above, i think at 90 cap, 70:70 will lose to 85:50 because 7070 will rely on snow shield a lot which you need to get your cold force to a high level, which not a good idea. at 90 caps, you need to max out your pacheon(90),light(90), fire(90), and the only mastery points left are (30), which is for cold. 30 points to cold mastery will only give you a little to level up your snowshield, 70:70 build rely heavily on snow shield, so if your snow shield is low, then that's not good. though, if you go 85:50, with max pach/light/fire and 30cold, it is very reasonable/agreeable, you will not need snowshield that much, just a little, but not as much as the 70:70 build. though you can always tweak your build if you wish to go for 70:70, like not maxing fire? etc... your choice xD

[muyo]

i vote 80:50...im making 1 from scratch.aiming max blue will get 90%+ phy and w/o fire although i now ull get more from fire but i believe this build can use 30%+ snow shield.

[DarkShadow]

according to the people posts above, i think at 90 cap, 70:70 will lose to 85:50 because 7070 will rely on snow shield a lot which you need to get your cold force to a high level, which not a good idea. at 90 caps, you need to max out your pacheon(90),light(90), fire(90), and the only mastery points left are (30), which is for cold. 30 points to cold mastery will only give you a little to level up your snowshield, 70:70 build rely heavily on snow shield, so if your snow shield is low, then that's not good. though, if you go 85:50, with max pach/light/fire and 30cold, it is very reasonable/agreeable, you will not need snowshield that much, just a little, but not as much as the 70:70 build. though you can always tweak your build if you wish to go for 70:70, like not maxing fire? etc... your choice xD

why is it bad idea to get cold at a high lvl? i don't get

could i kill a full str with this build at high lvls?
a 70:70 build with pacheon fire + lightning as main skills
i think the dmg would be great but i would die very often, right?

[sinny]

well u asked between 80:50 and 70:70, full str wont win until snow shield run out (70:70)

it is NOT bad to get cold to high lvl IF YOU ARE GOING FOR 70:70. (though you will lose a lot of other stuff from light(+magic dmage, parry) or fire (phys dmage) in exchange for phys ddef+snowshield because snowshield is a must for 70) (70 or 80, both will want to get every possible increase in dmg, both magic and phys, so light and fire must be MAX, which left only 30mastery to cold, which you can only get a little for mana shield, which is bad for 70 build, but perfect for 80 build where you dont need to get high snowshield and you can get every dmg from fire and light)

it is bad to get cold level to high IF YOU ARE GOING FOR 80:50

now how is 80:50 better than 70:70, this is my own opinion, okay 80 has more hp than 70, which is not relying on snowshield as much, its crit also stronger, its like almost being a full str but more dps, 70 depend on snowshield almost all the time or it fall like flies, though it has the highest dps out of all

now pvp same items/lvl: both 70 and 80 activate snowshield, they mostlikely not gonna be able to kill each other if both have snowshield on, although 70 has high % in snow shield, 80 has more hp, so it pretty much even out, but 80 has higher crit, once both snowshield run out, the 80 has more chances of winning you see what i'm saying here? this is just a theory though, but very reasonable.