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i am a lvl 47 rogue with a 7 lvl gap right now and i am farming. i have almost collected enough curst hearts to de level by bard to 0. now i am trying to choose between warrior 2h, warrior dual axes, or cleric. i dont think i really want cleric because almost every european has cleric as a sub so it wont be hard getting one in my party . but ireally cant make up my mind because i do not know which one is better. i want, between dual axes and 2h, the one that can kill the fastest.

2Hand kills the fastest..Axes has great attacks too (looks ofc)

But I dont get the point of getting rogue/warrior but thats just me =p

turn off xbow buff and its basically tanks like a 2h without skins...

Daul axes, cause they hit higher than 2h and hav better defense, but imo the best sub is cleric cause its the best for for party, pvp/jobbing, and in some cases soloing as well.

-.- wrote:turn off xbow buff and its basically tanks like a 2h without skins...

Yeah ... so basicly Warrior is better version of Rogue without DD/XE?

haha, im making a warrior, and I got a cleric friend who I'm gonna thief with = NO Cleric spfarming!

I am a rogue (crossbow)/ warrior (2h), it pwns

Point to a Rogue/Warrior is for people who are die hard Chinese players to get their soloing ability with the amazing 2H PvP ability. I say if you really want Warrior drop rogue for 2H and solo as a Warrior. Once you get Maddening, solo isn't really that bad for Warrior. You kinda use a lot of pots, because of the sacrifice, but it is a lot safer than Rogue and pretty fast, not as fast as Rogue of course.

I dont see why a Rogue needs cleric subclass besides the fact that they can be out in the pvp area without dying. I guess people dont understand that Rogues are assasins. 1-2 shot hitters. Bard is perfect for creating the perfect crime and then running away.

go rogue/cleric. i tihnk its better

i borrowed jen's rogue / cleric and compared to mine sub bard, i perfer sub bard, i can't be bothered by wasting time casting bless, i admit the recovery division is nice though, strike and kill and do it fast, which is why niose plus moving march is perfect, noise to let you get back into stealth even in agro areas and moving march to hit them faster and run faster

Hershey wrote:Rougue/Wiz FTW

You mean this?
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Sylhana wrote:

Hershey wrote:Rougue/Wiz FTW

You mean this?
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wow, lol speechless abt this
wiz juz for ice KB, light fear, teleport

BloodOwnzzz wrote:I dont see why a Rogue needs cleric subclass besides the fact that they can be out in the pvp area without dying. I guess people dont understand that Rogues are assasins. 1-2 shot hitters. Bard is perfect for creating the perfect crime and then running away.

drug of typhoon > moving march in capped lvl pvp
why lvl up the whole damn 80 mastery juz for the drug + noise =.=
rogue/cleric wif drug = rogue/bard/cleric

CLOT wrote:

Sylhana wrote:

Hershey wrote:Rougue/Wiz FTW

You mean this?
[youtube]

wow, lol speechless abt this
wiz juz for ice KB, light fear, teleport

BloodOwnzzz wrote:I dont see why a Rogue needs cleric subclass besides the fact that they can be out in the pvp area without dying. I guess people dont understand that Rogues are assasins. 1-2 shot hitters. Bard is perfect for creating the perfect crime and then running away.

drug of typhoon > moving march in capped lvl pvp
why lvl up the whole damn 80 mastery juz for the drug + noise =.=
rogue/cleric wif drug = rogue/bard/cleric

edit, its not just the speed, its the extra defense noise adds, it means you can go back into stealth in the middle of an agro area, perfect for theives rather then having to deal with tons of annoying creatures. It just an added convience, and a matter of perferance i like my rogue/bard more then i like vindiction's rogue sub cleric, we both have advantages over each other. Bard is more tactical, and cleric is more show of force.
true but drugs can get expensive fast, and when the cap rises, unless they come out with a faster drug, bard speed will be better

CLOT wrote:

BloodOwnzzz wrote:I dont see why a Rogue needs cleric subclass besides the fact that they can be out in the pvp area without dying. I guess people dont understand that Rogues are assasins. 1-2 shot hitters. Bard is perfect for creating the perfect crime and then running away.

I didn't write this...

Haha at above post

Venomic wrote:I dont see why a Rogue needs cleric subclass besides the fact that they can be out in the pvp area without dying. I guess people dont understand that Rogues are assasins. 1-2 shot hitters. Bard is perfect for creating the perfect crime and then running away.

I think cleric is the best sub for rogue because it is much more useful in parties and jobbing. When I job I put on holy word, and recovery division, and sometimes bless and they really help with the survivability. I usually only use speed drug for jobbing so it doesnt run me that much. Also, If my health is gettin low I just switch to cleric and bind the merchant and hunter, then run back and put on CE and snipe them. In parties cleric is a no brainer, with bless and rd everybody loves u, and res is a huge help. The only thing bard takes the cake in is soloing, cause of moving march and noise, but since i hav xbow, I never move that far and I kill the mob before it even touches me.

thankyou for all the advice, but.... all ofu have been discussing rogue/cleric or rogue/bard. i have already had rogue bard and i hated it, it got boring fast. so im going warrior and i was wondering which was better for pvp 2h, or dual axes?

magichog wrote:thankyou for all the advice, but.... all ofu have been discussing rogue/cleric or rogue/bard. i have already had rogue bard and i hated it, it got boring fast. so im going warrior and i was wondering which was better for pvp 2h, or dual axes?

for pvp and pve 2handed sword no doubt!