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Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:16 pm
by muyo
Hello :D

I am quite busy and lazy:P planning to continue my abandon 1:2 spear level 65.

In these day,it is rare to see a topic about 1:2 spear anymore.So do you think this build can still work and worth to continue nowadays?(i mean mantain 1:2 ratio to 80)
if so, what is the best masteries selection for the coming 90 cap?

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:27 pm
by Xanovaria
The build works just fine.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:57 pm
by covenuncle
yea with the sun :D

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:09 am
by alcoholic
for 90
ice 30(for 21 percent snow sheild correct me if im wrong)
hueskal 90
fire 90
light 90

for a 1:2 hybrid you dont need much ice

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:08 am
by muyo
thanks for ur reply^^

so i can use garment with this build right?
i farming to level up my fire again:P

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:36 am
by raged!
this build is terrible now due to snow shield

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:56 am
by KayaNemo
raged! wrote:this build is terrible now due to snow shield


Dont really understand why it is terrible due to the snowshield, maybe try explaining?

IMO, get to lvl 30 or 45 with the current build then go pure int from there. That will add more damage to your char. Meanwhile the snowshield is meant to help spearman actually, so I dont see any reason why it is going to be terrible.

Under current conditions hybrid int spear are...
1. Much harder to kill
2. Gives high damage output.

At the same time I also suggest 90 heuk, 90 light, 60 ice and 60 fire.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:44 am
by keshi21
My char is a 2:1 Spear wielder, i think its very fun being a hybrid, currently I'm at lvl 76, but i calculated for lvl 80 with all +5 INT and +5 STR w/ premium i should have 78% STR and 90% Mag and (with 1200 HP/MP+) should be 14.5k HP and a lil over 16k MP =) so i'm really looking forward to that. Heuksal/Light/cold 80 Fire 60, I assume that the fan skill is good enough for PVP against nukers, but i really want to test my char against Glaivers. For 90 cap? IMO 90 Heuksal/Light 60 Cold/Fire as well

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 1:09 pm
by alcoholic
muyo wrote:thanks for ur reply^^

so i can use garment with this build right?
i farming to level up my fire again:P


yea you can use garment.
dont wear protector tho i find that pretty useless.
but thats my opinon so you can weild what you like your chioce.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:29 pm
by covenuncle
keshi21 wrote:My char is a 2:1 Spear wielder, i think its very fun being a hybrid, currently I'm at lvl 76, but i calculated for lvl 80 with all +5 INT and +5 STR w/ premium i should have 78% STR and 90% Mag and (with 1200 HP/MP+) should be 14.5k HP and a lil over 16k MP =) so i'm really looking forward to that. Heuksal/Light/cold 80 Fire 60, I assume that the fan skill is good enough for PVP against nukers, but i really want to test my char against Glaivers. For 90 cap? IMO 90 Heuksal/Light 60 Cold/Fire as well



lol dude u can easily switch to bow and be perfect bow build....

just add str till the lvl 80 and u will have like 80% phys and around 86% mag balance...

and instead of heux bonuses u will have like 14k hp or something...:D

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:13 pm
by alcoholic
covenuncle wrote:
keshi21 wrote:My char is a 2:1 Spear wielder, i think its very fun being a hybrid, currently I'm at lvl 76, but i calculated for lvl 80 with all +5 INT and +5 STR w/ premium i should have 78% STR and 90% Mag and (with 1200 HP/MP+) should be 14.5k HP and a lil over 16k MP =) so i'm really looking forward to that. Heuksal/Light/cold 80 Fire 60, I assume that the fan skill is good enough for PVP against nukers, but i really want to test my char against Glaivers. For 90 cap? IMO 90 Heuksal/Light 60 Cold/Fire as well



lol dude u can easily switch to bow and be perfect bow build....

just add str till the lvl 80 and u will have like 80% phys and around 86% mag balance...

and instead of heux bonuses u will have like 14k hp or something...:D

HYBRID BOW sucks
just stay hybrid int spear. they rock

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:23 pm
by Hellraider
My previous char is a lvl69 2:1 spear, and its a glaiver killer, pure int s/s are a pain in the ass though

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:35 pm
by Super8
needs moar int plis.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:36 pm
by covenuncle
well yea dude...my char is int hybrid spearman too....and i owned glaviers on lvl 69-70 but on the lvl 80 it gets kinda hard....they have like 22k oh hp....and bunch of them doing like blade/heux masteries...

blade to give u bleed and division glavies to finish u off...

ok build for 80 cap...but what will they do on 90 i have no clue...

and u as a spearman hybrid on lvl 80 u dont make more then 10k nuke....if u choose lightning....it may be hard....cause minimal dmg of nuke and imbue it is not desirable ....+ u need some lucky crits too...


with fire its easier on cap 80......but there is a still a problem what to develop on 90 cap.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:08 am
by keshi21
I was wondering, since I'm going to eventually give up fire in the later level caps, is it good to wear garm for 2:1 Int hyb?

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:09 am
by Endou
keshi21 wrote:My char is a 2:1 Spear wielder, i think its very fun being a hybrid, currently I'm at lvl 76, but i calculated for lvl 80 with all +5 INT and +5 STR w/ premium i should have 78% STR and 90% Mag and (with 1200 HP/MP+) should be 14.5k HP and a lil over 16k MP =) so i'm really looking forward to that. Heuksal/Light/cold 80 Fire 60, I assume that the fan skill is good enough for PVP against nukers, but i really want to test my char against Glaivers. For 90 cap? IMO 90 Heuksal/Light 60 Cold/Fire as well


=D you are spot on. I am 80 full farmed 2:1 spear with 77% phy balance and 91% mag balance, with 14.4k HP and 16.0k MP. Missing like an overall 5str and 2int points on my gear.

hybrid 2:1 builds aren't useless or weak at all. snow shield has not exactly killed the build either. In pvp the damage is great, most of the time i would kill a nuker with 1-2 attacks, and with snow on i can tank their nukes til their snow is gone, if not i can still kill them with it on. i find most of my problems comes from pure str builds, especially archers. hybrid 2:1 can only tank a short while before they really need to kill their opponent fast or else they'll die. with an archers constant kb skill they always have time to pot without getting hit. glaivers are a little easier if u can find a stun or a dull. a great build for 80 cap, not so sure for 90 cap though. at 90 somethings gotta give, usually ice.. sometimes fire. if u drop either though, u are opening quite a large hole in ur defences.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:06 am
by muyo
so do u strongly sugggest keeping fire till cap 90 (and cap 100)?

i dont have pure int/int heavy nuker...do this build really own with snowshield? of coz they can tank better, can the nuke kill?or snowshield is just a delay of dying.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:04 am
by keshi21
muyo wrote:so do u strongly sugggest keeping fire till cap 90 (and cap 100)?

i dont have pure int/int heavy nuker...do this build really own with snowshield? of coz they can tank better, can the nuke kill?or snowshield is just a delay of dying.


For me, I am going to get rid of fire completely and wear garm, at 90 cap for me it will be 90/90/90 heuksal light and cold and 30 fire or even 0 so i can use that sp (30 fire is pratically useless with mag def+ 12 buff -_-). I'll have enough hp and def to tank full str esp with snow shield and enough mag def to tank nukers esp with snow shield (i'm keeping min at 35 or 40) and bloody snake storm (+1103 mag def for 15s at lvl 84). Also 20% reduce mana consumption will help a lot when use all the spear skills. Hope this helps.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:11 pm
by alcoholic
keshi21 wrote:
muyo wrote:so do u strongly sugggest keeping fire till cap 90 (and cap 100)?

i dont have pure int/int heavy nuker...do this build really own with snowshield? of coz they can tank better, can the nuke kill?or snowshield is just a delay of dying.


For me, I am going to get rid of fire completely and wear garm, at 90 cap for me it will be 90/90/90 heuksal light and cold and 30 fire or even 0 so i can use that sp (30 fire is pratically useless with mag def+ 12 buff -_-). I'll have enough hp and def to tank full str esp with snow shield and enough mag def to tank nukers esp with snow shield (i'm keeping min at 35 or 40) and bloody snake storm (+1103 mag def for 15s at lvl 84). Also 20% reduce mana consumption will help a lot when use all the spear skills. Hope this helps.

having fire at 30 is horrible for a hybrid int 1:2 you need the phy buff and the fire protection agisnt nukers.
having 30 fire as a hybrid int 1:2 you die fast
and you should always wear garment

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:26 pm
by muyo
yeah.. i mean max fire for 80 cap is doable while having snow shield too. but 90 cap is getting closer(closer? :? )...
the best masteries setup for 1:2 spear hybrid is?
i think 1:1,70:70,1:2 up to naked 80% have trouble balancing masteries. JM should never introduce snowshield :P (J/K)

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:19 pm
by alcoholic
muyo wrote:yeah.. i mean max fire for 80 cap is doable while having snow shield too. but 90 cap is getting closer(closer? :? )...
the best masteries setup for 1:2 spear hybrid is?
i think 1:1,70:70,1:2 up to naked 80% have trouble balancing masteries. JM should never introduce snowshield :P (J/K)

I STRONGLY recomend having fire to 90
90 CAP
90 hueskal
90 fire
90 light
30 ice or 30 picheon

Use fire as main imbue.
30 ice with 21% snow sheild is enoguth for a hybrid 1:2
a hybrid int 1:2 always need fire by its side for phy buff to increase its attake and lighting to increase its mag attake.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:23 pm
by alcoholic
keshi21 wrote:
muyo wrote:so do u strongly sugggest keeping fire till cap 90 (and cap 100)?

i dont have pure int/int heavy nuker...do this build really own with snowshield? of coz they can tank better, can the nuke kill?or snowshield is just a delay of dying.


For me, I am going to get rid of fire completely and wear garm, at 90 cap for me it will be 90/90/90 heuksal light and cold and 30 fire or even 0 so i can use that sp (30 fire is pratically useless with mag def+ 12 buff -_-). I'll have enough hp and def to tank full str esp with snow shield and enough mag def to tank nukers esp with snow shield (i'm keeping min at 35 or 40) and bloody snake storm (+1103 mag def for 15s at lvl 84). Also 20% reduce mana consumption will help a lot when use all the spear skills. Hope this helps.


whats the point of having ice to 90?? you already having good enouht phy def as a hybrid int 1:2 and hp becasue of hueskal

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:36 pm
by keshi21
alcoholic wrote:
keshi21 wrote:
muyo wrote:so do u strongly sugggest keeping fire till cap 90 (and cap 100)?

i dont have pure int/int heavy nuker...do this build really own with snowshield? of coz they can tank better, can the nuke kill?or snowshield is just a delay of dying.


For me, I am going to get rid of fire completely and wear garm, at 90 cap for me it will be 90/90/90 heuksal light and cold and 30 fire or even 0 so i can use that sp (30 fire is pratically useless with mag def+ 12 buff -_-). I'll have enough hp and def to tank full str esp with snow shield and enough mag def to tank nukers esp with snow shield (i'm keeping min at 35 or 40) and bloody snake storm (+1103 mag def for 15s at lvl 84). Also 20% reduce mana consumption will help a lot when use all the spear skills. Hope this helps.


whats the point of having ice to 90?? you already having good enouht phy def as a hybrid int 1:2 and hp becasue of hueskal


Well for me, i guess what's the point of a low fire mastery? (30,40 or even 50) the magic def buff is weak at +12,+18 or even at +27, esp since you have garm, bloody snake storm and snow. Besides for me i'd rather have a higher phys def cuz of fighting mobs (statistically there are a lot more mobs that use phys atk rather than magic atk), I'm pretty sure i will spend more time grinding than PVPing nukers.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:24 pm
by shabowsdawn
couldnt 2:1 do s/s too and kinda be like a blader and that??!!?!?!

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:07 pm
by alcoholic
Keshi well why dont you do

90 CAP
HUESKAL 90
Fire 90. for phy buff which is VERY important for a hybrid 1:2. and fire protection agisnt nukers. and being immune
LIGHT 90. for speed. for mag buff which is VERY important for a hybrid int 1:2 and parry ratio
ice 30. for 21% snow sheild thats is enough for a hybrid int 1:2

you can do what you want im just saying that having fire 90 then ice at 90 is better IMO.
having ice at 90 is point less becasue you wont be able to have high snow sheild due to low mp.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:28 am
by KayaNemo
I prefer going 90 weap, 90 cold n 90 light.

Firstly, wearing a garm will practically stop the need for having mag buff, you're int-based hybrid and your int points should be high enough to boost the mag defense (if you remember what does mag reinforcement do).

Secondly, I believe maxing cold is a good choice, because you need more phy def than mag def, apart from that with the 50% (or higher) snowshield, you're practically untouchable no matter how high the damage is, your mp consumes them before hitting your hp.

Consider this: if you reverse the situation having 90 fire and 30 cold. This is whats gonna happen, you are gonna sacrifice your snowshield for slightly higher mag def. Your choice, your decision, my points are clear enough.

For hybrid s/s wannabes, its a good build too, but whatever you do... pacheon among heuk, bich and pacheon, will be the most vulnerable one - with least hp and defense. GOod Luck...

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:10 pm
by alcoholic
KayaNemo wrote:I prefer going 90 weap, 90 cold n 90 light.

Firstly, wearing a garm will practically stop the need for having mag buff, you're int-based hybrid and your int points should be high enough to boost the mag defense (if you remember what does mag reinforcement do).

Secondly, I believe maxing cold is a good choice, because you need more phy def than mag def, apart from that with the 50% (or higher) snowshield, you're practically untouchable no matter how high the damage is, your mp consumes them before hitting your hp.

Consider this: if you reverse the situation having 90 fire and 30 cold. This is whats gonna happen, you are gonna sacrifice your snowshield for slightly higher mag def. Your choice, your decision, my points are clear enough.

For hybrid s/s wannabes, its a good build too, but whatever you do... pacheon among heuk, bich and pacheon, will be the most vulnerable one - with least hp and defense. GOod Luck...


dude a hybrid 1:2 CANT TAKE 50% SNOW SHEILD they are a very heavy hybrid.
a hybrid 1:2 that has max FIRE does has a TON MORE DAMAGE DUE TO PHY BUFF remeber your a very heavy hybrid int you still ned phy buff.
a hybrid 1:2 doesnt nuke -.- they mainly do weapon attake so they need phy buff. and being a heavy hybrid int wouldnt protect you from nukes
i only know some pure int that can take 50% snow sheild.
so i say 90 hueskal 90 fire 90 light 30 ice would be best for a hybrid.

if you take 90 hueskal 90 light 90 ice 30 fire you might aswell go and make a pure int. so they actually can use 50% snow sheild.

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:01 am
by keshi21
alcoholic wrote:
KayaNemo wrote:I prefer going 90 weap, 90 cold n 90 light.

Firstly, wearing a garm will practically stop the need for having mag buff, you're int-based hybrid and your int points should be high enough to boost the mag defense (if you remember what does mag reinforcement do).

Secondly, I believe maxing cold is a good choice, because you need more phy def than mag def, apart from that with the 50% (or higher) snowshield, you're practically untouchable no matter how high the damage is, your mp consumes them before hitting your hp.

Consider this: if you reverse the situation having 90 fire and 30 cold. This is whats gonna happen, you are gonna sacrifice your snowshield for slightly higher mag def. Your choice, your decision, my points are clear enough.

For hybrid s/s wannabes, its a good build too, but whatever you do... pacheon among heuk, bich and pacheon, will be the most vulnerable one - with least hp and defense. GOod Luck...


dude a hybrid 1:2 CANT TAKE 50% SNOW SHEILD they are a very heavy hybrid.
a hybrid 1:2 that has max FIRE does has a TON MORE DAMAGE DUE TO PHY BUFF remeber your a very heavy hybrid int you still ned phy buff.
a hybrid 1:2 doesnt nuke -.- they mainly do weapon attake so they need phy buff. and being a heavy hybrid int wouldnt protect you from nukes
i only know some pure int that can take 50% snow sheild.
so i say 90 hueskal 90 fire 90 light 30 ice would be best for a hybrid.

if you take 90 hueskal 90 light 90 ice 30 fire you might aswell go and make a pure int. so they actually can use 50% snow sheild.


After really thinking about it, I suppose it might be better to have fire so you can do more damage, cuz what's the point of living longer and not being able to kill in PVP, you'll end up being a large target practice lol. But with more damage you get the chance to kill. But living longer is great for PVE =)

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:18 pm
by thAi
Idk about yall but if i had a hybrid spear...I would go for 85% mag

Re: Any hybrid int 1:2 spear still exist?Want some opinion

Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 7:16 pm
by keshi21
thAi wrote:Idk about yall but if i had a hybrid spear...I would go for 85% mag


85% naked or with blues?