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PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:56 am
by shichibukai
which is more stronger in overall aspect??
and WHY>>>>>>>>>
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:00 am
by holokaust
both are equal
what makes the diff is the gear
=)
PS: btw glavie owns woooooooooooooooooot
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:11 pm
by Jakked
Glavie own like hell im full st glavie now lvl 13 (i know just started)but its very good !!! ps do fire nd bicheon
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:35 pm
by shichibukai
Jakked wrote:Glavie own like hell im full st glavie now lvl 13 (i know just started)but its very good !!! ps do fire nd bicheon
what makes u say glavier owns?? as far as i know and in so many videos on youtube pure str archer owns all other build exept for a blader of course.
it has hight crit and better chance to crit><.
if u have other opinions which is stronger pure str glavie or pure str archer>< pls post reply and tell us WHY
and dont make an answer BOTH and DEPENDS ON GEAR.
shall i say both glavier and acher has sun set +9 for example.
WHICH BUILD DO U THINK IS THE BEST???????????
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:15 pm
by Cloverleaf
Archers crit more and are ranged, glaivers tank better and have slightly better base (non-crit) damage. The question is which one is better to you?
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 3:23 pm
by vanom
shichibukai wrote:Jakked wrote:Glavie own like hell im full st glavie now lvl 13 (i know just started)but its very good !!! ps do fire nd bicheon
what makes u say glavier owns?? as far as i know and in so many videos on youtube pure str archer owns all other build exept for a blader of course.
it has hight crit and better chance to crit><.
if u have other opinions which is stronger pure str glavie or pure str archer>< pls post reply and tell us WHY
and dont make an answer BOTH and DEPENDS ON GEAR.
shall i say both glavier and acher has sun set +9 for example.
WHICH BUILD DO U THINK IS THE BEST???????????
archer do shit. they have higher crit probability. but have you noticed that they make the same damage with crit as a glaive with no crit (anti devil)? with premium, i got a parry of 41x. i dont care, if an archer crits me with anti devil. as long as he doesnt crit me 4 times in a row (strong bow, anti devil, that powder skill, again anti devil), my hp never goes below 9k. and against s/s nuker, they need more luck than against non shield user. with crit 100 on their shields, u need 50 shots to crit them one time. u see vids on youtube, huh? well, do u know their gears? their exact lvls? their parry and attack ratio? the crit of their weapons? i don't think so.
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:31 pm
by Poochu
It depends.
The guy above - definition of biased.
A bow, if they doulbe crit from a distance, they'll own most things their level. But, if a glaive for example got up close, they'd be in trouble.
I personally prefer hybrid bow to pure str
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:45 pm
by BaronSengir
shichibukai wrote:Jakked wrote:Glavie own like hell im full st glavie now lvl 13 (i know just started)but its very good !!! ps do fire nd bicheon
what makes u say glavier owns?? as far as i know and in so many videos on youtube pure str archer owns all other build exept for a blader of course.
it has hight crit and better chance to crit><.
if u have other opinions which is stronger pure str glavie or pure str archer>< pls post reply and tell us WHY
and dont make an answer BOTH and DEPENDS ON GEAR.
shall i say both glavier and acher has sun set +9 for example.
WHICH BUILD DO U THINK IS THE BEST???????????
you obviously arent 80 are you? the only bow that can kill me is sun bow +5+6+7+8+9 bows cant touch my glaive and before you say anything i have a 80 blade 80 arch 80 glaive and arch is my least favourite
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 6:46 pm
by Macsnow
LoL... glavie is a favorite in this post
And yeah, I have a glavie too, I am lv62. I think the extra HP from passive is great, and the fan series are awesome when going up against nukers
The one thing I hate about a glavie is, the PvE isnt that good if you want to lvl fast
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 7:08 pm
by holokaust
shichibukai wrote:Jakked wrote:Glavie own like hell im full st glavie now lvl 13 (i know just started)but its very good !!! ps do fire nd bicheon
what makes u say glavier owns?? as far as i know and in so many videos on youtube pure str archer owns all other build exept for a blader of course.
it has hight crit and better chance to crit><.
if u have other opinions which is stronger pure str glavie or pure str archer>< pls post reply and tell us WHY
and dont make an answer BOTH and DEPENDS ON GEAR.
shall i say both glavier and acher has sun set +9 for example.
WHICH BUILD DO U THINK IS THE BEST???????????
lol if both have sun gears equal and sun +9 what gonna say who win is luck
as a bow can stun the glavie stun too and knock back as the bow...
so they're equal
Lucky wins always
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:40 am
by steve93
ok on youtube there is 2 videos of the same person 1 he is with a glavie 2nd he has a bow the glavie did 30,000 damage with crit and the bow did 15,000 and he is pure str
ok this is the bow
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wT9hyWlvwx0this is the glavie
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yp626NLc6CMsee which one you like
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 11:06 am
by Nitro
I would chose bow ... glavies are overused ... (doh , bows are too) ... but I love bow more ... faster grinder and looks smexyest
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:23 pm
by MrFudge
im hybrid str bow, glaives are tough but they eventually go down.
I can use snow shield and impotent vital spot and they do 1k damage for every 1 hit of soul spear soul, and about 1.6k for soul spear emperor.. so about 4k total usually.
thats against some 72+7 glaive i pvped yesterday with my epic fail alchemy +3 set i made a couple days ago after failing every single piece.
i rev6-ed him and he had full +4 gears and i was doing 13k strongbow crit with my 72+5 bow, which is pretty decent since hes prob got 20-22k hp, so more than half his health.
with a sun bow and vital spots i can prob get a decent 17k crit on a glaiver from a strongbow.
from what ive seen other sun bows do 15-16k crit.
soul spear emperor i think single hit (consists of a 2hit skill) is somewhere between 8-11k ? i cant remember, depends on attack rating which is harder to come by since glaives dont have a blue hawk, and the fact that you need to rinse and repeat soul spears for like a minute til it finally crits >.>
Sun equipped build, id go bow. Crit-enhanced skills that are single hits and not double-part skills like glaives (besides ghost spear) deplete HP like crazy with a crit 13+ bow. Friend of mine has a crit 15 one i think.
+7 or less, glaive is probably your safer bet since its got 2 damaging skills that can both stun, and that gets annoying quick. Although arrow combo is annoying too. Bow vs Bow, worst pvp ever.
but whatevs, if u\'ve got sun ur bound to own anyway if u kno how to play smart.
Bows a little trickier, but even an idiot like myself can play it.
If u use anything like snow shield against glavers, they just b1tch and whine.
If u phantom away to use ur range, they b1tch, whine and call you out for \"running\".
Not every build was made to just sit there and spam 123
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:03 pm
by vanom
how old are those vids? that archer shoots strongbow back to back ^^
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:52 pm
by Vuesters92
str glavie. tank harder and crit just as high.
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 12:45 pm
by jyushinshuu
GLAVIE FTW!!!
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:10 pm
by Phenom_
I do like glavies alot, but my 85 pacheon/fire/ice says differently. On my server atleast, bowers are some of the top pvp contenders. The crits are godly, and I disagree that glavie has higher base dmg. Celestial Beast arrow and strong bow (when it doesnt crit, which is a rarity) are both incredibly high powered attacks and drop people faster than any other chinese build, ofc excluding nukers.
But as always, this is all opinion. Idk, i side with bowers. I've seen far too many bowers rape the shit out of alot of well farmed and geared people to say that bowers suck haha.
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 12:31 am
by 360apples
personally you should go glaive, bow is sooo fragile (flame shield) i prefer having the huge hp over the range ++ if you go force the new force skill is stun
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:50 pm
by JoyFax
vanom wrote:shichibukai wrote:Jakked wrote:Glavie own like hell im full st glavie now lvl 13 (i know just started)but its very good !!! ps do fire nd bicheon
what makes u say glavier owns?? as far as i know and in so many videos on youtube pure str archer owns all other build exept for a blader of course.
it has hight crit and better chance to crit><.
if u have other opinions which is stronger pure str glavie or pure str archer>< pls post reply and tell us WHY
and dont make an answer BOTH and DEPENDS ON GEAR.
shall i say both glavier and acher has sun set +9 for example.
WHICH BUILD DO U THINK IS THE BEST???????????
archer do shit. they have higher crit probability. but have
you noticed that they make the same damage with crit as a glaive with no crit (anti devil)? with premium, i got a parry of 41x. i dont care, if an archer crits me with anti devil. as long as he doesnt crit me 4 times in a row (strong bow, anti devil, that powder skill, again anti devil), my hp never goes below 9k. and against s/s nuker, they need more luck than against non shield user. with crit 100 on their shields, u need 50 shots to crit them one time. u see vids on youtube, huh? well, do u know their gears? their exact lvls? their parry and attack ratio? the crit of their weapons? i don't think so.
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
you wish
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:29 pm
by S3by
Glavie .
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 5:30 pm
by omier
Glaive is the one.
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 9:44 pm
by Buddhist
omier44 wrote:Glaive is the one and only.
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 11:28 pm
by BuDo
I say go for bow. Bow offers more crits than any other build because of it's critical enhance skill in the skill tree. In the past glavie was better but that era is dead. Bow can do knock back now and stun (just like glavie) which makes them offer more hits per turn. A bow with a high crit stat vs a glavie with the same high crit stat results in the bow winning due the archer's crit increase skills (added crit bonus). Bow hands down
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 3:25 pm
by Criticals
BuDo wrote:I say go for bow. Bow offers more crits than any other build because of it's critical enhance skill in the skill tree. In the past glavie was better but that era is dead. Bow can do knock back now and stun (just like glavie) which makes them offer more hits per turn. A bow with a high crit stat vs a glavie with the same high crit stat results in the bow winning due the archer's crit increase skills (added crit bonus). Bow hands down
+1
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:28 pm
by _Sir_Thalas_
ROFL... ppl keep suggesting on a 2 years old post, c'mon guys read the date of the first post before even waste ur time replying...
Re: PURE STR GLAVIE OR PURE STR BOW??
Posted: Wed May 12, 2010 10:56 pm
by ShiningBow
u replied too O.o, and now so did i xD