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warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:50 pm
by timinh93
hi im a silkroad player in Venus and i have a warrior/cleric player. i dont know if i should leave a skillpoint gap of 4 or 2-3 in warrior mastery. which one should i do? :(

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:27 pm
by timinh93
anyone there? :?

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:48 pm
by Kawaii
best to farm at once because 3 to 4 gap hurts later on. Do you know how many skill points you need ... check the character skills section for the calculator.

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:15 am
by timinh93
so what should i do? :banghead:

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:20 am
by BloodOwnzzz
We do not know what weapon you are taking and whether you want to be able to heal as a Cleric. You need to elaborate on your build so we can help you.

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:27 am
by timinh93
oh, i'm sorry about that. :oops:

Well, I'm going as a 2h warrior with Heavy Armor for jobbing and pvping. I plan on using 1h sword and shield for the Giants/Party Monsters like how the Eu Warrior/Cleric guide said. Currently, I'm level 10 maintaing a SP gap of 4. Also, I plan on going Cleric for subclass for healing.

My only problem is that I think a gap of 4 is a little bit too much. By the time I obtain the full 2nd heavy armor set (the jade/green one), I would be level 17 already. Shouldn't it be a 2 or 3 gap instead? :shock:

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:47 am
by BloodOwnzzz
Even if you took a 4 gap you wouldn't have enough SP to take everything you want. I suggest choosing 1 Weapon, 2H Sword or 1H Sword, and take a bare minimum for the Cleric secondary; do not take any healing skills just Bless Spell, Recovery Division, Reverse Oblation, Holy Word/Spell and the required skills for these. However, that requires you to take a 4 gap to be fully farmed up to 80 without farming at all.

Another choice you have is to take just Warrior skills, 1 Weapon of your choice, at a 3 gap and farming the remainder of the SP in parties on Niya Generals.(Which actually happens yo be fast, With a SP tickets I see people builds absolutely transform in about 1 week of farming SP)

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:56 am
by -.-
dont bother gapping until you are in 30s

if you just get 2h skills you can lv to 32 with 0 gap
(leave skills at 24 and lvl only warrior mastery to get up to 32 then delvl it back to 24)

now that you have a new weapon (32) go somewhere you can kill easy and start to farm 1h and cleric skills (probably ongs or the 31 chickens)

there isnt much point in lvling cleric before then because you wont have bless yet and when you gap you lose out on armor def, use 2h instead of 1h to farm since you wont be killing things higher than you out of having a 8 gap

and by the time you finish the 8 and 9 gaps, you should have enough sp for 1h/cleric maxed to 24 then start with 0 gap again or continue with a 2-3 gap

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:01 am
by timinh93
So, basically, I should just play with a 2-3 gap in Warrior and Cleric Mastery until level 30's? 8)

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:03 am
by -.-
i would go 0 gap to 32 (well skills left behind at lv 24) just to get to new weapon to farm with a 8 gap then

2-3 gap you wont get a whole lot more sp than a 0 gap but you'll take longer to lvl up (easier to lv fast up to the 8/9 gap then farm there for a while) it'll make up for the time you spend between each lvl with a 2-3 gap

plus low lvl euros have like 2 or 3 skills and it gets boring lvling with 2-3 skills

lv 1-32 with 3 gap gets about 9k sp, a 9 gap at lv 33 is 10k sp and 8 gap at 32 is 4k sp
so get lvl past 32 with 8 gap and 33 with 9 gap and you'll have 14k sp (this doesnt include the 4k sp you get from 0 gap 1-31)

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:07 am
by timinh93
Alright, so farm with 0 gap until level 32 to get the level 32 weapon, and then start farming with a SP 8 gap? :)

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:10 am
by -.-
that's what i would do

remember leave skills at 24 while continuing to lvl up warrior for 0 gap
and get curse hearts as you lvl so you can remove the 8 warrior once you hit 32

if you dont want to 9 gap at 33 and just 0 gap 1-31 + 8 gap 32 = 8.7k sp
its same as 3 gap from 3-32= 8.9k sp

the sp is about same, i just like lvling up faster before i farm, but it cost money to delvl skills but it shouldnt be a problem since you'll make it back while farming

edit use http://www.nivlam.com/sp/ to see how you want to lvl and how much sp you'll get

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:13 am
by timinh93
wait, leave skills at 24? i dont understand that part. :?

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:15 am
by -.-
leave skills at 24 so you'll have 8 gap at 32 once you remove warrior masteries

other wise you have to remove all the skills you got 24-31... which will cost money and since you seem to be new you wont have the money to remove it

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:17 am
by timinh93
*using the sp calculator*

what does the start and end mean?

(omg im so noob :oops: )

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:22 am
by -.-
start means what lvl the gap starts :D and end is what lvl you stop farming

you have to finish the lvl for it to count so if you put 1-20 you have to lvl through 20 to get all the sp it listed, and not lv 1-19 and run off at 20 and think you got all of it

edit: you could always click on the sp box :D instead of using the menu thing lol

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:28 am
by magisuns
I'm going it quite differently...
I closed my gap when ever i got a IMPORTANT skill... ie... 1-4-10-14-20-24-30-36-40 etc

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:30 am
by timinh93
when i put some numbers in, and the sp thing shows up, do the sp numbers mean that i have to get that many skillpoints, or how much more i need to obtain

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:33 am
by -.-
the red numbers that come up are the sp you get for that gap of lvl

http://www.nivlam.com/euro/ forgot to post this before :S lol use this to find out what skills you want and how much sp you need, no point in farming more than you need

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:41 am
by timinh93
If you decide to take the cleric skills too you will be needing 347.743 but this is easy doable with a gap of 4. Altho lvling with a gap this big is quite annoying i'd advice to keep this gap till lvl 40 so you can take the cleric buff as soon as you hit lvl 40. Afther that you can close your gap and lvl up with a 2 gap lvling only the warrior skills and start SP- farming at higher lvls.

thats a paragraph i found from the warrior/cleric guide. should i follow that? :shock:

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:08 pm
by dannoob
there is no one right method when it comes to sp farming. just do whatever you prefer and find makes the game still fun. Some ppl will gap after they get new skills, some wwill just alternate, 1 gap, 2 gap, 3 gap, 4 gap, 5gap, then 0 gap. Others will grind at 50 while some at 16. And some will just go ongs for power farming. Though when presented with the last option that would be most people's favourite, many cant find someone to help them d othat, so just choose what ever suits you best

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:22 pm
by timinh93
alright, thank you to all who helped me :D

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:37 am
by KylieMinogue
i gap 4 still, and i usually stop it when i want new full armor.

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:56 am
by CHIPS
My character did not need too much sp. Here is how I did it. The ranges are where I had zero gap.

1-20, 28-40, 48-60, 68-80 (planning)

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:55 am
by risi
Helloooo!

Level to 31 now open a 9 gap to 40, this will do! farm will with 9 gap sounds horrible eh :D but your only level 10 you don't know how much sp your build/my build needs :P, and yes taking is 1H is nice.. I will take it later.. farming now, I can say its NOT neccessary to have it. Cause 2H can do fine.. remember offensive makes best defense.. cause if you have Bless Spel and Iron Skin and use Vital Increase when you partying, remember this too 2H swords are pretty weak when theyre still low, people get to know their madness when they hit 80.

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:51 am
by Malicious
This build is a good build which can solo. In my opinion, keep a 3-4 gap and keep your sub class mastery 5-10 levels lower than your level, while keeping your main mastery 3-4 levels lower than your level.

Re: warrior cleric skillpoint help

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:50 pm
by killerblack
2h warrior/cleric (RD,Bless,Holy,Reverse)
if u gonna have premium(100%expand100%sp) and only play in ticket time
u can one lvl gap to end and u will have also about 20k more sp
thats include party and grabbing mobs skillz in warrior tree
if u wanna be so selfesh in warrior that will also decrease the required skillPoints.