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Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:43 pm
by dagyros
Hi all i was wondering if i would make Hybrid spear:
1st: Is this a good desicion?
2nd:Should i go 5:1?
3rd: Or should i go 7:1?

Thnx :D

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:49 pm
by NuclearSilo
pure int
With snow shield @ cap 90. U tank like a real tanker. Dont mess up your char

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:06 pm
by dagyros
Yeah really:)? Sounds awesome:). Whats your build?

Thnx a loT:) :D :P :) :wink:

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:13 pm
by kryptic
Go for 5:1 cuz the spear's mag. atck is way bigger then the sword
that means spear 5:1=(equal)=sword 7:1
Use lighting imbue cuz you will need to stun more since your def and hp are low
aslo wear pro. gear with nice stamina and str. bonus
Spear char. isnt for pvp dont forget that !

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:29 pm
by LockStar.
kryptic wrote:Go for 5:1 cuz the spear's mag. atck is way bigger then the sword
that means spear 5:1=(equal)=sword 7:1
Use lighting imbue cuz you will need to stun more since your def and hp are low
aslo wear pro. gear with nice stamina and str. bonus
Spear char. isnt for pvp dont forget that !


Please! :banghead: :x

I can beat...lets say 90% of the capped glaviers on alps, dont make me take my powerleveling garments off and put mah prot on. :x

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:32 pm
by darkmaster21
I would do pure int and max out Snow Shield so you can stay alive and tank. You will deal massive damage with this build.

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:40 pm
by kryptic
LockStar. wrote:
kryptic wrote:Go for 5:1 cuz the spear's mag. atck is way bigger then the sword
that means spear 5:1=(equal)=sword 7:1
Use lighting imbue cuz you will need to stun more since your def and hp are low
aslo wear pro. gear with nice stamina and str. bonus
Spear char. isnt for pvp dont forget that !


Please! :banghead: :x

I can beat...lets say 90% of the capped glaviers on alps, dont make me take my powerleveling garments off and put mah prot on. :x


If they got less then 2critical on their weapons you could beat them.
Next time u pvp try it with someone with equal EQUIPMENT* not some retard turk glavier that just finish'd using Tb0t and max'd 3 skills(farmed)....

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:42 pm
by Jantje
kryptic wrote:
LockStar. wrote:
kryptic wrote:Go for 5:1 cuz the spear's mag. atck is way bigger then the sword
that means spear 5:1=(equal)=sword 7:1
Use lighting imbue cuz you will need to stun more since your def and hp are low
aslo wear pro. gear with nice stamina and str. bonus
Spear char. isnt for pvp dont forget that !


Please! :banghead: :x

I can beat...lets say 90% of the capped glaviers on alps, dont make me take my powerleveling garments off and put mah prot on. :x


If they got less then 2critical on their weapons you could beat them.
Next time u pvp try it with someone your lvl and equipment


><' get past lvl 60 and the spears will rise!

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:57 pm
by kryptic

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:02 pm
by Kathyryn
why is it when someone wants to kill with his build its always versus a glavier?
LockStar. wrote:Please! :banghead: :x

I can beat...lets say 90% of the capped glaviers on alps, dont make me take my powerleveling garments off and put mah prot on. :x

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:02 pm
by XMoshe
darkmaster21 wrote:I would do pure int and max out Snow Shield so you can stay alive and tank. You will deal massive damage with this build.


Sure you can tank...with snowshield. As soon as it runs out you gotta hide in safezone till it is cool downed, or you gotta use a shield or something. Pure int spear in garm/prot without snowshield and sun (just normal +4/5) are 2 hits or 1crits for me..and I think 1hits for other pure ints lol (but they have the same problem).

You can go pure int spear with snowshield (I see a few on Xian and they're good) but they can only fight for 2 mins..stand around for a min and then fight for 2 mins again >.>



Kathyryn wrote:why is it when someone wants to kill with his build its always versus a glavier?
LockStar. wrote:Please! :banghead: :x

I can beat...lets say 90% of the capped glaviers on alps, dont make me take my powerleveling garments off and put mah prot on. :x


thats because glaive has the most hp and the highest dmg from pure str (non crit wise) I think hehe, I right about the hp tho xD

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:03 pm
by F-22
spears are only good for 1 vs 1, if two 2 or more people on you = dead.
But i would recommend s/s because you get crazy defense and you have bleed, division, and impotent to help you kill faster.

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:11 pm
by xKingpinx
wow man....noone here can tell me that spear isnt good....im a spear and i own about everyone my lvl (69) and some lvl 70.... im hybrid of course but with bloody snake storm and snow i cant tank a little bit... heres the routine for me.....btw the people i duel have +3 gears and up....so for pure ints i sss+nuke usually kills them ...if not then i sss+nuke+ghostspear then spirit crash.... and for glaviers nuke+nuke+sss+ghost spear ...glaviers are usually the more of a challenge for me but with bloody snake storm and snow...pure ints lvl 69 only hit me for like 2.5k or 3.5k very low.....

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:13 pm
by XMoshe
Sure you can kill kingpin, but thats why you are hybrid -> higher health but still nice dmg.

OT btw: you should go 5:1 for spear, like someone else said..7:1 is more a sword balance

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:26 pm
by xKingpinx
XMoshe wrote:Sure you can kill kingpin, but thats why you are hybrid -> higher health but still nice dmg.



well duh... :D if i was pure int i would defintely 100% go s/s very strong at cap...... but i made my char by mistake... and it seems to work well for me...because i do decent nuke dmg but my phys dmg is pretty high too..

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:53 pm
by LockStar.
kryptic wrote:
LockStar. wrote:
kryptic wrote:Go for 5:1 cuz the spear's mag. atck is way bigger then the sword
that means spear 5:1=(equal)=sword 7:1
Use lighting imbue cuz you will need to stun more since your def and hp are low
aslo wear pro. gear with nice stamina and str. bonus
Spear char. isnt for pvp dont forget that !


Please! :banghead: :x

I can beat...lets say 90% of the capped glaviers on alps, dont make me take my powerleveling garments off and put mah prot on. :x


If they got less then 2critical on their weapons you could beat them.
Next time u pvp try it with someone with equal EQUIPMENT* not some retard turk glavier that just finish'd using Tb0t and max'd 3 skills(farmed)....


Ven, back me up! Please :cry:

Alright..Farmed and cap glavier, full +5 garment set 5 Str/Int,+7 glavie with 9 crit. vs. A full farmed pure int Spear +5 prot set with sun shoulders and +9 spear, lvl 70 Snow shield.

And now, dont bloody tell me that the glavier will win. NO! He won't because I have done it many times.

With snow shield anything is possible, this build could tank farmed glaviers without snow too, before new skills got implemented.

And alittle numbers for you. My friend who has 5 sun garment parts(without hands) and 2 accs, has taken 12k-13.7k nukes from me. Average is still 10k though.

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:03 pm
by kryptic
no doubt that your a kick ass spear

but! your not the avrege spear charactor

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:07 pm
by kryptic
with risk of double-posting...
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Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 7:53 pm
by John_Doe
I think you should be asking how much mag balance you should have not ???:??? you could got with 9:1 cause someone said its good but bam it screws up your balance, and you can't even stay alive long enough to even fire a nuke which won't, even if'd fired, be strong at all.

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:47 pm
by torch69
im 2:1 ratio spear with protector and 80:85 mg balance almost full blues.

I like my build because I can hit pretty hard and still take some hits. Like someone said above, you might not be able to tank more than 2 people tho. So you have to learn how to play your build. I usually combine with a blader when jobbing amd we work together as a team to won thiefs regularly.

So really, its up to your own taste. Take into consideration pvp when cwearing cape, is just for bragging rights. Its how fast you can kill monsters to lvl and how you job that makes you good.

OG OG! OUT!

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:00 pm
by Airbeat
Always when i wear cape, glaviers says "No snow shield" ! >.<

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:05 pm
by Casey613
kryptic wrote:Spear char. isnt for pvp dont forget that !

Oh God, seriously dude.. are for kidding me? If you know how to play a pure int spearman, you can own pretty much anyone that's no a goldbuyer sosun guy.

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:23 pm
by †erminal
Airbeat wrote:Always when i wear cape, glaviers says "No snow shield" ! >.<

I hate that so much along with, "you had snow shield so it didn't count"
I think Pure int spear is where its at with the snow shield buff...

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:50 am
by dagyros
Oke well this all sounds good..Ill go for Pure int or 5:1..Still dont know yet..Thnx alot btw:D

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:44 am
by LockStar.
†erminal wrote:
Airbeat wrote:Always when i wear cape, glaviers says "No snow shield" ! >.<

I hate that so much along with, "you had snow shield so it didn't count"
I think Pure int spear is where its at with the snow shield buff...


I lately ignore that type of people.

They just can't understand that a pure int spear cant tank a farmed enemy even with sun protectors, its simply impossible(Except for the bladers ofcource -.-). I can say for myself, that I doubt that I can tank a farmed +7 glavier with good crits even with a sun protector set without snow. But I can tank glaviers who dont got the new skills :P

Ya'll got new skills, we ints got snow shield. Haters >.<

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:58 pm
by Rakion
BOW WILL RULE!!!(str types of course :) ) just playing with ya :P

go 5:1 some says its good :)

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:56 pm
by torch69

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:15 pm
by xKingpinx
i love hybrid because i was fighting a glavier and i used snow and he said "NO SNOW!" and i was like...ok. and i still beat him without snow :P

btw nice sig LockStar... and quick question what does AU stand for in your TheifAlias

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:19 pm
by auralism
hhh ... when i pvp someone 1st thing to do is a dmg test on him with lion shout then if i c some unusual numbers ...snow-on and "you got serv'd" ^^

Re: Hybrid spear 5:1 or 7:1?

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:21 pm
by Airbeat
I would recommend not to get Snow Shield 50 %.. Your gets so easily drained. Go 80 fire, 70 Cold, 70 Light, and 80 Heuksal :)