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hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:38 am
by alcoholic
if yes please explain
Re: hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:30 am
by Sylhana
A pure str blader is a tanking build. High hp, better defense (shield), and you have the ability to block. The downside is the amount of damage pure str bladers do. They have a high frequency of hits (in the form of combos, kd and stab, blade force series) but the lowest average damage dealing per hit of all the chinese builds. Bladers will have difficulty killing other charachters, but in a team their role is invaluable. Being able to pin down a particularly troubling char that no one else in your team could tank, kill euros, tank uniques etc, bladers have their role as tankers while doing auxillary damage for the team.
So why go str hybrid? Depending on how you distribute your stat points, str hybrids are able to deal slightly more damage per hit compared to a pure str blader. Crits aside (natural crit value on blades are low, so you shouldnt depend on them) higher damage per hit translate to higher damage output. Whether a hybrid blader could kill more is hard to say, cause there arent many players with this build. In theory, what you are trying to do is increase damage output, at the cost of lowered hp, and lowered phy defense, but slightly higher mag defense (as stats are used as part of the defense calculation) how much depends on what you wear. I do not think it is a bad idea, I just do not believe it will impact the build significantly enough to change its role from a tanker to a killer. You would probably still be a tanker that deals more damage than other bladers, with slightly shortened mortality time on the battle field.
Re: hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:29 am
by Pawnage
hehe if you wanna a str build that does pretty good dmg, try euro; rogues are pretty fun... only thing is the pot delay
Re: hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:16 am
by [SD]Isidro
Sylhana wrote:A pure str blader is a tanking build. High hp, better defense (shield), and you have the ability to block. The downside is the amount of damage pure str bladers do. They have a high frequency of hits (in the form of combos, kd and stab, blade force series) but the lowest average damage dealing per hit of all the chinese builds. Bladers will have difficulty killing other charachters, but in a team their role is invaluable. Being able to pin down a particularly troubling char that no one else in your team could tank, kill euros, tank uniques etc, bladers have their role as tankers while doing auxillary damage for the team.
So why go str hybrid? Depending on how you distribute your stat points, str hybrids are able to deal slightly more damage per hit compared to a pure str blader. Crits aside (natural crit value on blades are low, so you shouldnt depend on them) higher damage per hit translate to higher damage output. Whether a hybrid blader could kill more is hard to say, cause there arent many players with this build. In theory, what you are trying to do is increase damage output, at the cost of lowered hp, and lowered phy defense, but slightly higher mag defense (as stats are used as part of the defense calculation) how much depends on what you wear. I do not think it is a bad idea, I just do not believe it will impact the build significantly enough to change its role from a tanker to a killer. You would probably still be a tanker that deals more damage than other bladers, with slightly shortened mortality time on the battle field.
Basically, to sum it all up for ya,
Hybrid Bladers - go for 6:1-7:1 Blader build. This build (it's what i have too) has overall more MP but a little less HP since you're not pure STR. The advantage is MORE DAMAGE (you can actually kill something now)
Pure STR Bladers - a staple, the usual, the common -- Add all your stat points to STR, and strive for 20k + hp and basically you're a Godly tanker(because you have shield as well), but your DMG is LOW
Normally at lvl 50, a pure str blader would have about 5,700HP while a hybrid 6:1 would have 5,300 HP , yet the 6:1 has more MP.

Re: hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:07 pm
by alcoholic
i remeber before when the new moves didnt come out like lighting chain people hated hybrid str blader becasue they were horrible and told me to change my build only like 3 people said keep your hybrid str. ive put 21 points into int and im lvl 40 what should i contuine to do?
Re: hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:41 pm
by Ningyotsukai-san
Well, here's the base stats (no blues) for the 2 builds
Hybrid:
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... file=47479Pure Str:
http://bobtheveg.dyndns.org/SRO/Char_Bu ... ofile=3009There's not a big difference in hp (1,578 difference naked)
while with the mp it's the same (1,577 difference naked)
now have full str/hp and int/mp on gears
Hybrid:
18,550 hp w/ 102% Phy. balance
10,377 mp w/ 55% Mag. balance
Pure Str:
20,128 hp w/ 109% or 110% Phy. balance
8,799 mp w/ 45% Mag. balance
(please note there might've been a lil human error coming up w/ numbers for this part ^^^^^^^^) lol..
Hybrid seems good to me, a bit.....though I must admit I'm a sucka for the pure builds <.<'
Re: hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:02 pm
by Alterran
now seriously hybrid suk imo ive foguht 6:1 hybrid and 7:1 bladers and ive killed them all just go pure str im lvl 64 pure str blade and i can kill anyone lvl 65 and under
Re: hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:30 am
by glavie
Alterran wrote:now seriously hybrid suk imo ive foguht 6:1 hybrid and 7:1 bladers and ive killed them all just go pure str im lvl 64 pure str blade and i can kill anyone lvl 65 and under
You need to re-word your statement unless you are in full sun gear. Otherwise.....Ah hell I will do it for you

Alterran wrote:I have never seen a good hybrid. Everyone I have fought I have killed. I suggest pure str.
Now isn't that better

Re: hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:38 am
by glavie
alcoholic wrote:i remeber before when the new moves didnt come out like lighting chain people hated hybrid str blader becasue they were horrible and told me to change my build only like 3 people said keep your hybrid str. ive put 21 points into int and im lvl 40 what should i contuine to do?
Light hybrid bladers were just fine before the new skills. Heavy hybrid is now a possibility.
Lightning chain has no effect on whether hybrids are good. In fact am I the first to mention what skill makes str hybrids a valid build? Hint* its in the ice tree.
If you optimize that skill for the amount of mp you have then for 2min you will be better then a pure STR.
How much int is up to you, the more int you add the higher you need to have your ice mastery. Something to think about once the cap raises.
Re: hybrid str blader good?
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 4:14 am
by thAi
I'm currently going hybrid blader. I'll tell you how it works out once I'm a lil higher level.