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How to play well as a NUKER fire/light! READ

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 1:36 pm
by jetjetjetjet
i'ma tired of seeing people post new post about nukers... so, PLEASE, search and read

all stats in int, weapon use spear till level 60

have 20 weapon mastery in spear ONLY,

to kill, imbune and kill with GHOST SPEAR, which will take 2 hits, if not 3, do that till level 30 for first NUKE,

the fire and light nuke, BTW, match your fire and light materies together,

from lev 30 and on, to level, you got to kill in ONE HIT OR TWO HITS ONLY, or else it's too dam slow and dangerous for a nuker, because you wil die instantly

click on a monster, tap a nuke, when the nuke is half activated, as in your character bending down charging up for the nuke, THEN PRESS IMBUNE right AT THAT INSTANT, then nuke fires up,

if it's not a on hit kill, then tap GHOST SPEAR, it SHOULD DIE, or else you know you are killing strong monsters for nukers.

basically to summarize, nuke + imbune + ghost spear, it's all about the time, for me, i can even get a hit in after all those while imbune is still on,

you dont want to imbune to early, because you will loose imbune before the monster is dead, which will lead to insufficiency of mana use.

at later levels such as level 57, around there, or at lev 59, you shall change your garment to armor, oh yeah, USE GARMENT TILL that level, because at lev 56 i think, the monster is magical attack, after grinding on it for a few levels, till you are strong enough to kill YETI, then change to armor.

after lelve 60+ you might think about changing weapon of choice to sword and shield, it gives MUCH MORE DEFENCE, which is what you need to survive, but you wont have ghost spear inorder to help you kill faster, but just do two nukes, or nuke + lion shot + lion shot, the best choiec is two nukes,

and for nukes, since it's light and fire nuker, you gota max out the light nuke for sure, it's the requirement, and for fire nuke, leave the first fire nuke at lev 1, trust me, you can survive til you get the second nuke at lev 45, believe me, you CAN, cause i did it

then max out the second nuke, maybe not, but i heard when the second nuke is maxed, it some how does more damage than the third fire nuke, but the problem is. the third fire nuke is a 5 hit nuke, so it can hit up to 5 monsters at the same time, you dont want to hit that many at higher levels.. you will get PURE OWNED... -__- so just think about it, and for lighting, it always hit up to 3 monsters.

i hope that helps, because when i started this game, i was a hybrid bow.. and it was so dam weak, especially i was using ice... -__-

i started again as a nuker, without knowing much about how to be a good nuker and do well.. i just read the biggytimer dude's guide, which isn't all that helpful in terms of telling you what exactly to do, but it DID gave me the idea of what should be done, and here you go, hope my experience helps...

Pace

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 2:36 pm
by ShizKnight
A lot of lvl 70 nukers get their Heuksal up to 60 for the 1k hp, and Soul Spear Soul which can help in PvP.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 2:51 am
by flipinoy
sticky please? i think it's really good =)

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:41 pm
by Stefan7487
wheres lion shout...? I use that religiously with my nukes.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:44 pm
by dom
I also find that in the early 30s flying dragon + ghost spear + imbue will also two hit kill. This costs a FRACTION of the MP using double nuke and their are both ranged (flying = fire nuke range, ghost spear = lion shout range ( 2 meters)

Re: How to play well as a NUKER fire/light! READ

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:46 pm
by hellsharpt
jetjetjetjet wrote:click on a monster, tap a nuke, when the nuke is half activated, as in your character bending down charging up for the nuke, THEN PRESS IMBUNE right AT THAT INSTANT, then nuke fires up,

if it's not a on hit kill, then tap GHOST SPEAR, it SHOULD DIE, or else you know you are killing strong monsters for nukers.

you dont want to imbune to early, because you will loose imbune before the monster is dead, which will lead to insufficiency of mana use.


This part is great for newer players, not just what skills, but how to use them and in what order. I wish more guides would include this.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:22 pm
by MALDITO
A truly real nuker don't use weapon skills (except spear passive) and the mini nukes are a must.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:26 pm
by dom
MALDITO wrote:A truly real nuker don't use weapon skills (except spear passive) and the mini nukes are a must.


Because we have goverment guildelines to follow?

A real glaive'ist doesn't use physical buffs or imbues because they're magically powered?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:40 am
by He_Man
ShizKnight wrote:A lot of lvl 70 nukers get their Heuksal up to 60 for the 1k hp, and Soul Spear Soul which can help in PvP.


I dunno, the extra 7% block for Sword 60 seems just as attractive, if using sword/shield. The extra 1k HP will make less of a difference at lvl 70...

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 6:49 am
by Devotia
He_Man wrote:
ShizKnight wrote:A lot of lvl 70 nukers get their Heuksal up to 60 for the 1k hp, and Soul Spear Soul which can help in PvP.


I dunno, the extra 7% block for Sword 60 seems just as attractive, if using sword/shield. The extra 1k HP will make less of a difference at lvl 70...


who says you can't get both? ;p

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:56 am
by RaiKiRii
i guess theres no pvp or hunting thieving til lvl 59 then eh. considering you're wearing garm.

spear mastery at 20 is just not enough, 60, or add str. or both.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:15 pm
by superblur
^^^^

exactly what im doing... spear till 60...

it makes your nukes stronger also... so why not?

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:48 pm
by FireStorm
Yeah I was wondering if the mastery add to your nukes dmg.
It says it gives bonus to the weapon. So at lvl 60 I'll have 60% more dmg? If this is correct it will change a lot of things in my build :-)

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:08 pm
by FireStorm
IMO weapon skills increase your physical dmg and your force skills your magical dmg. At least this seems more reasonable.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:32 pm
by ShizKnight
FireStorm wrote:IMO weapon skills increase your physical dmg and your force skills your magical dmg. At least this seems more reasonable.

That's right, but Heuksal is still worth upgrading for the passive.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:52 pm
by NoLimits
Just me, assuming that the nuker you have in mind is pure INT, but I'd rather use the shout(s) over any weapon skill since shout's damage is based on your INT while the weapon skills (e.g. dragon spear, soul spear, etc.) are based on your STR.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:04 pm
by Ice771x
...whats passive?

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:06 pm
by ShizKnight
NoLimits wrote:Just me, assuming that the nuker you have in mind is pure INT, but I'd rather use the shout(s) over any weapon skill since shout's damage is based on your INT while the weapon skills (e.g. dragon spear, soul spear, etc.) are based on your STR.

Wrong, weapon skills are based on magic and physical whereas nukes are based only on magic.

Passive is like an innate buff; For Heuksal it adds hp. Scroll down to the bottom of the skill selection thing for each tree, and there is a passive.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:07 pm
by ShizKnight
*Triple post, my bad*

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:12 pm
by ShizKnight
Blah triple post :banghead:

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:21 pm
by Ice771x
lol triple post

thanks for the clarification :)

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:23 pm
by ShizKnight
Holy crap, my bad.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:26 pm
by Ice771x
lol its ok its funny :D

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:52 pm
by NoLimits
Huh, really? It says physical attack in the weapon descriptions and I always thought only STR affected physical damage.