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Hybrid Str Bladers?

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:44 pm
by thAi
Has anyone ever been or knows a friend whos a hybrid blader? Do they do decent in pvp and pve? I'm mainly looking for people who have experience with hybrid bladers.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:48 pm
by Mrs. Santa
I think that D2A had one, he also had full sun though.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:43 am
by dannoob
hey i used to have a hybrid blader. Its definitely one of the funner builds, what with all the variety of skills. Damage wise its not bad, but you do need to set up a good order for skills and nukes since being s/s and a hyb you will hit relatively low. But with a good order planned out you can get in enough hits in a short period of time to deal relatively high amounts of damage. Definitely a fun build, quite sp intensive, has pretty good tanking abilities, and a decent offense.
For PvE with my nukes, chains, snake dance series, kd and stab, plus the awesome defence, i was able to take on two pt scorp giants at the same time and have neither ksed from me while i was 2 -3 lvls lower. Keep in mind i had sos blade and som shield.
PvP really long battles if you want to kill a pure str. Fighting a bow user was not much of a problem since they didn't have knock back or stun yet. Pure str glaiver was close battles, using some of their stronger attacks in a row i was often left around 5 - 10 % hp luckily no crit, however since my skill order was pretty decent i could take them out soon after, if not then their crit would probably kill. As for pure ints weren't too much of a problem, especially with phantom walk, kd +stab.
Hope this helps, srry all my posts are always this long

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:57 am
by [SD]Isidro
After all the negative feedback Hybrid bladers receive, its nice to hear something positive. [=

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 2:29 am
by thAi
Yea I've took a long break from SRO but then eventually came back when Venus came out but now I'm coming back to Xian. Now I just wanna try out a new build thats rare these days.

@dannoob Your post isn't really that long. I read it all anyways :p

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:51 am
by Doctor_MOS
I was thinking bout starting a blader too, Tho i'll be full str
I don't say hybrids are badd, just that full str can tank better (with 20% snow shield)

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 3:17 pm
by glavie
Danoob is talking about a 1:1 blader or something. He is using nukes. You guys realize this right?

Yeah hybrid bladers are fine. When I say hybrid I mean under 30 points int. Are they better than pure str I don't know. They don't seem to be worse. I have seen 2 in action one 58 the other 78.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 5:37 pm
by Alterran
my friedn has a hybrid lvl 69 blader he added 21 int to it and well anyone his lvl he can kill hes got sos +5 blade and +5 lvl 68 shield and some decent garms so idk im pure str lvl 58 blader

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:44 pm
by [SD]Isidro
glavie wrote:Danoob is talking about a 1:1 blader or something. He is using nukes. You guys realize this right?

Yeah hybrid bladers are fine. When I say hybrid I mean under 30 points int. Are they better than pure str I don't know. They don't seem to be worse. I have seen 2 in action one 58 the other 78.



Hold on, what do you mean by "adding 30 int points"? Like When you level up, and get 3 stat points, is that what you are takling about?

Because i have a friend he has like 150 STR 86% phys balance but he has like 102 INT with 52% Mag balance. He's a blader. What does that mean then?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:22 pm
by glavie
[SD]Isidro

I mean that instead of putting all points into str you put xx number of points into int.
That means for the current cap you have 240 points you can put where ever you want. I know quite a few people with 1-30points into int the rest into str. It really isn't as delicate as most people think, since there is both magic and physical attack for chinese characters.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:25 pm
by [SD]Isidro
So what you're saying, is that by lvl 80, to be considered pure STR, you're INT points should not exceed 240, yes?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 7:33 pm
by glavie
Nope

I am saying that to be pure str you must put all available points into str. The game automatically gives you 1 point into int and 1 into str every time you lvl. Then you have 3 to put where you want.
So 3 multiplied by 80 lvls equals 240 points that you choose where they go.

You must put 240 into STR to be "pure STR".

I know people who have put up to 30 of those points into int and don't suck or anything.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 8:01 pm
by Swindler
my first charr was one, and he sucked...

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 9:14 pm
by thAi
HejsaN wrote:my first charr was one, and he sucked...


How far did you even reach?

Re: Hybrid Str Bladers?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 3:49 am
by lego
thAi wrote:Has anyone ever been or knows a friend whos a hybrid blader? Do they do decent in pvp and pve? I'm mainly looking for people who have experience with hybrid bladers.
in Alps where i started had a friend Hyb Str Blade i dont remember well but he was putting 3 str at 1 lvl and 3 int at other lvl and after 52 only str ..he was great but he had good items full blue all and blade sos to kill something i tried 2 but 42 quit i didin liked it to slow :) Pure i recomand

Re: Hybrid Str Bladers?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:00 am
by thAi
lego wrote:
thAi wrote:Has anyone ever been or knows a friend whos a hybrid blader? Do they do decent in pvp and pve? I'm mainly looking for people who have experience with hybrid bladers.
in Alps where i started had a friend Hyb Str Blade i dont remember well but he was putting 3 str at 1 lvl and 3 int at other lvl and after 52 only str ..he was great but he had good items full blue all and blade sos to kill something i tried 2 but 42 quit i didin liked it to slow :) Pure i recomand


So you blader was 1:1? I was thinking of going 5:1

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:37 am
by Cinnamon
my friend made a hybrid ice blader (his first char) and I wont lie it was pretty awful. In PvE it did okay, I guess. He didnt have to pot to much but killed stuff really slowly. In PvP however he was painful to watch. My friend and I who were 10 lvls lower than him could easily kill him. Granted we were pure int, but i mean 10 lvls is a little ridiculous.

I agree its defiantly an interesting build but if you have only +3 stuff like my friend did i think you will certainly struggle, especially in the PvP aspect.

Well best of luck man.

Oh, and btw my friend had like an 85% naked physical balance.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 4:57 am
by thAi
He was using ice. That was probably the big problem. And what lvl was he?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 6:54 am
by Cinnamon
Umm he got to 46...and yeah I'm sure ice defiantly contributed to the problem :P

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:22 am
by [SD]Isidro
Cinnamon wrote:my friend made a hybrid ice blader (his first char) and I wont lie it was pretty awful. In PvE it did okay, I guess. He didnt have to pot to much but killed stuff really slowly. In PvP however he was painful to watch. My friend and I who were 10 lvls lower than him could easily kill him. Granted we were pure int, but i mean 10 lvls is a little ridiculous.

I agree its defiantly an interesting build but if you have only +3 stuff like my friend did i think you will certainly struggle, especially in the PvP aspect.

Well best of luck man.

Oh, and btw my friend had like an 85% naked physical balance.



Definitely the ice. I mean, hybrid bladers basically, IMO, lose some tanking ability in exchange to increase more damage. Yes? So, its give or take.

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:33 am
by Doctor_MOS
Cinnamon wrote:my friend made a hybrid ice blader (his first char) and I wont lie it was pretty awful. In PvE it did okay, I guess. He didnt have to pot to much but killed stuff really slowly. In PvP however he was painful to watch. My friend and I who were 10 lvls lower than him could easily kill him. Granted we were pure int, but i mean 10 lvls is a little ridiculous.

I agree its defiantly an interesting build but if you have only +3 stuff like my friend did i think you will certainly struggle, especially in the PvP aspect.

Well best of luck man.

Oh, and btw my friend had like an 85% naked physical balance.

atleaast he killed faster then a pure str..

how maney nukes you needed for him? and was he wearing armour?

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:01 am
by Cinnamon
He was wearing armor and it took 2 nukes. defiantly not a good choice in gear...he was a noob :P I would like to say tho that he always enjoyed playing it so I guess it was fun (at least for him).

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:56 pm
by [SD]Isidro
Pure INT Nukers seeing Bladers with ARMOR = Tasty. ;]

Recipe for death.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:33 pm
by ZarpaZo
im a str hybrid blader 3:1 lvl 80 so im an experienced one =P... the first thing ppl told me was "what the hell are u doing?! u are gonna waste ur time!go pure!" but i just keep my build all the way. in pvp i was able to kill glaviers (lvl 42 till 57, for some reason they take more dmg with this build) but nukers were really a headache , well i was using and still using protector so maybe that was the reason :D leveling is slow like any pure blader except u do a lil bit less dmg but its different in pvp and jobs. the good thing is that now i have snow shield and i can hold even more nukes than a pure without running out of mana as fast as they do. now talkin in present, yeah i can do a pretty good dmg in pvp, a friend told me that i was able to do 1k more dmg than a pure in same conditions (same gap and set) against him. im still testing it .. btw my hp and mp ;
HP:17840, MP:10418 , balance: phy 99% mag 56%

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:08 pm
by thAi
ZarpaZo wrote:im a str hybrid blader 3:1 lvl 80 so im an experienced one =P... the first thing ppl told me was "what the hell are u doing?! u are gonna waste ur time!go pure!" but i just keep my build all the way. in pvp i was able to kill glaviers (lvl 42 till 57, for some reason they take more dmg with this build) but nukers were really a headache , well i was using and still using protector so maybe that was the reason :D leveling is slow like any pure blader except u do a lil bit less dmg but its different in pvp and jobs. the good thing is that now i have snow shield and i can hold even more nukes than a pure without running out of mana as fast as they do. now talkin in present, yeah i can do a pretty good dmg in pvp, a friend told me that i was able to do 1k more dmg than a pure in same conditions (same gap and set) against him. im still testing it .. btw my hp and mp ;
HP:17840, MP:10418 , balance: phy 99% mag 56%


First of all, Welcome to SRF ^^
Second, do you have a lot of trouble with int builds?

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:52 pm
by ZarpaZo
thanks :) ... no, that was when i was lvl 47 untill lvl57 they just nuke and KD and then stab, was pretty annoying die so easily, but u know at low lvls nukers are pretty strong. now they cant kill me unless they put me bleed+division.

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:41 pm
by thAi
Ahh I see thanks for the advice ^^