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new build. ........S.P.E.A.R......iwant any advice from you?
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:04 am
by ahmed__007
spear hybrid int ......2int ....1str
{skills}in new cap 90
{FIRE}90
{LIGHT}90
{HUEKSAL}90
{COLD}20
iuse {FIRE}to use imbue and nukes
iuse {LIGHT}to use phanton and high magiccal attack to give high nukes damage
iuse{HUEKSAL}beacause its my weapon
iuse {COLD}to open snow shield
please if u have any good advice tell me it.........................................................................................................
i wear armor to have agood defence.....................................
if you read the information about the character ithink you will tell me that is good character...........................................
its completly character.........
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:59 pm
by nightcrystal
u gonna die with lvl 20 mana shield
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:38 pm
by Doctor_MOS
and u can take ice to atleast 30
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:50 pm
by Scaglietti
1) 1:2 hybrid INTs will not give you a high enough magical balance, that means your nukes will be weaker, and the whole purpose of a spear nuker is to kill quickly because their survivability is very limited.
2) I suggest that you go 90 Cold instead of 90 Fire, with snow shield at lv 20 you will simply get 1 hit in PvP.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:43 pm
by Hellraider
That'll be my build if i ever get to 90, but ice to 30. I just dont want to rely on snow shield purely because there is still that 1 minute cooldown, besides, fire nukes are much stronger then the light nukes at 90, they already are at 80
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 7:39 pm
by Qrush
And no light nukes are stronger.. And snow shield is a must! 20% is nothing at lvl90. Go 90 cold 90 fire and 90 light. That would i do.
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 8:03 pm
by Swindler
Scaglietti wrote:1) 1:2 hybrid INTs will not give you a high enough magical balance, that means your nukes will be weaker, and the whole purpose of a spear nuker is to kill quickly because their survivability is very limited.
2) I suggest that you go 90 Cold instead of 90 Fire, with snow shield at lv 20 you will simply get 1 hit in PvP.
yeah but with mana shield 55% at lvl 90 and he is 2 int 1 str.. you just cant.. your mp is gonna go to the bottom right away..
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 9:07 pm
by Hellraider
Qrush wrote:And no light nukes are stronger.. And snow shield is a must! 20% is nothing at lvl90. Go 90 cold 90 fire and 90 light. That would i do.
Flame wave wide is 315% at 70+ and 330% at 80+ and almost all the following fire nukes are 315% while light nukes stay at 300% to lvl120
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:41 pm
by glavie
People are real opinionated about this but yeah its a good build. You will be hurting with low lvl snow shield, but you will be a max damage build.
Good luck.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 8:46 pm
by ninjam
its better to have a good offense and killer defence for ur build bro...take fire to 30 and take ice up to 90 becuz although the fire embue is stronger u still win with the light embue...jsut gotta work on that spear mag attack and crit ^^
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:22 pm
by glavie
HejsaN wrote:Scaglietti wrote:1) 1:2 hybrid INTs will not give you a high enough magical balance, that means your nukes will be weaker, and the whole purpose of a spear nuker is to kill quickly because their survivability is very limited.
2) I suggest that you go 90 Cold instead of 90 Fire, with snow shield at lv 20 you will simply get 1 hit in PvP.
yeah but with mana shield 55% at lvl 90 and he is 2 int 1 str.. you just cant.. your mp is gonna go to the bottom right away..
with his balances he could run 40% snow shield which is lvl 60. With 40% snow shield you could tank as well as a pure str for 2 min. I wouldn't recommend raising the tree higher unless you plan to use it for imbue.
Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 9:37 pm
by Dark_Force
very bad char lol
get cold instead of fire
so: 90 light(imbue, passive, nukes, buffs) 90 cold(passive, buffs, nukes) 90 heuksal(soul spear, ghost spear, passive) and 30 fire(immunity)
85% mag balance
Protector
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:03 am
by Avenger
I think that would be to much str for an spear type, thats 67% phys, 73% mag at 90... So with the missing int, you can't do the damage, and with the missing str your tanking abillity is less, id say aim for an 83% mag, so you can have your ice shield higher, and you'll still do some good damage.. Oh and fire is useless, cause you need your wep mastery if your planning on hybrid, you need cold for the buffs, and people say stop at 60 because thats 40% ice shield or sumn, but what about the passive, and the phys cold buff to max. Fire does less damage at higher levels because the decrease in masteries you can have, and lightening is stronger with its light buff, and the light effect, plus I believe light transfers effects like stun...
Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:33 pm
by glavie
Avenger wrote:I think that would be to much str for an spear type, thats 67% phys, 73% mag at 90... So with the missing int, you can't do the damage, and with the missing str your tanking abillity is less
He would tank better than a 83%mag, and do less damage then 83%mag. Isn't that the trade off?
id say aim for an 83% mag, so you can have your ice shield higher, and you'll still do some good damage..
If he is going to max Ice that might be a good idea.
Oh and fire is useless, cause you need your wep mastery if your planning on hybrid, you need cold for the buffs, and people say stop at 60 because thats 40% ice shield or sumn, but what about the passive, and the phys cold buff to max. Fire does less damage at higher levels because the decrease in masteries you can have, and lightening is stronger with its light buff, and the light effect, plus I believe light transfers effects like stun...
Light doesn't transfer stun. Fire has physical increase buffs that will be useful since he will be using weapon skills. Fire has the strongest imbue which is noticeable on hybrid ints. He also can de-cloak rogues and wizards.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 8:52 am
by Avenger
Well, i don't think it would work out as good, because the damage diff would be a lot compared to the 83% mag, and an 83% mag can still tank quite a bit and still can deal damage, and around that mag%, wouldn't that be better suited for a bow type build... Hmm i'm pritty sure that the light imbue transfers stun, ill have to double check, and the physical buff would help out his damage, but since hes mostly int, the light buff would be better, and can't you just buy a pill so you can "de-cloack", about the imbue, yes the imbue is stronger, but light nuke is stronger + must piercing. Now back on the physical damage buff, if hes mostly int his imbue is most of his damage, and imbue is an magical attack, and consider the other thing light offers, phathom walk and grass walk, which really help in jobbing, being out run by a noob hunter/thief isn't the best thing, also lightening has that parry buff which increases your def.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:31 am
by X20AFreedom
read my signature.
im not pretty sure about 70:70 glavie tanking rogue but i think with armor and snow shield u will be able to tank rogue and other chars.for exame wiz.
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:40 am
by glidingqy
I think you should drop the Heuksal for Ice in order to get Snow Shield
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:48 am
by pimpmyxride
Why the hell most ppl says HEUSKAL,HESUKAL i hate that it's annoying already grr
Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:08 am
by X20AFreedom
pimpmyxride wrote:Why the hell most ppl says HEUSKAL,HESUKAL i hate that it's annoying already grr
because hesukal has most damage output and it had defeated countless enemies without fail.