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Pure str archer help

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 2:52 pm
by Antione
I need help on pure str archer, i've already messed it up, i'm not sure if i should go fire or ice. i already have like lvl 7 mastery in both, (i'm gonna start sp farming) but i'm wondering which 1 i should use, i mean, the defence buffs in ice are handy, and the ice wall, i could use like in pvping, (just sit in it and shoot with bow) but i need the physical % buffs of fire, as well as grass walk flow, i'm totally confuzzled please help

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 3:30 pm
by Richd3m0n
depends if you wanna hit harder or just slow the enemy down? fire is probably best in PvP as it hits harder and Cold can be stopped with pills, although you do get the nasty sword combos =)

Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:33 pm
by theCoder
Go with fire. Ice is not great for pure str characters. You are pure strength, you really do not need the extra protection. The ice wall depends a lot on MP, something you will not have much of as pure str, so it will not be helpful to you.

You really don't even need lightning except for the grasswalk. On my build, I went fire, and bow as main masteries. I lvl lightning to 30 and stopped (I just need to pick up the pace for lvling, and hunting not win 100 yard dashes), and took force as a secondary. The passive for force gives me a good mp boost, so I can then just launch one bow buff after another and not run out of mp. Has helped tremendously.

Fire does the most damage... period. Pure str builds are going to do less damage than nukers, so you should take the mastery that will help your damage.

As a nuker, fire nukes do not do significantly more damage than lightning nukes til lvl 60+, and light nukes do great splash damage. Fire might make less sense to the nuker, and ice becomes a very attractive primary choice (alongside lightning) for the extra protection nukers can always use.

If you have put all points into str, you haven't messed anything up (unless, of course, you wanted a nuker). 7 lvls in any skill is easily reversable, and is not a huge sp investment by any means. In fact, even 20 lvls in any mastery is not a huge sp investment.

Re: Pure str archer help

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:16 am
by djkelvz
Antione wrote:I need help on pure str archer, i've already messed it up, i'm not sure if i should go fire or ice. i already have like lvl 7 mastery in both, (i'm gonna start sp farming) but i'm wondering which 1 i should use, i mean, the defence buffs in ice are handy, and the ice wall, i could use like in pvping, (just sit in it and shoot with bow) but i need the physical % buffs of fire, as well as grass walk flow, i'm totally confuzzled please help


If I were you, I would choose fire. Fire kills faster because of the damage bonus. Since you are a STR build, you will not worry much on defense since you have lot of HP. If you worry about the freeze/frostbite effect of ice, try mastering fire shield series (you only need to equip a shield in your inventory)...this I guarantee, will prove to be handy. :D Also as you level, try saving your accessories that have % reduce in freeze/frostbite. Imagine all your accessories having 22% freeze/frostbite reduce...this is equal to 22%+22%+22%+22% = 88% plus your fire shield = :D :D :D ...you know what i mean lol! 8)

Re: Pure str archer help

Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 2:12 pm
by Jinx
djkelvz wrote: If you worry about the freeze/frostbite effect of ice, try mastering fire shield series (you only need to equip a shield in your inventory)...this I guarantee, will prove to be handy.


Are you sure this works, I was dumb enough to delevel this skill thinking it wasn't working :/

Re: Pure str archer help

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 12:57 am
by djkelvz
Jinx wrote:
djkelvz wrote: If you worry about the freeze/frostbite effect of ice, try mastering fire shield series (you only need to equip a shield in your inventory)...this I guarantee, will prove to be handy.


Are you sure this works, I was dumb enough to delevel this skill thinking it wasn't working :/


yup! i does work for me.. the skill does not totally zero-out the abnormal status...it cuts short the status' duration. My bow character already has book 2...the results are more noticeable. I can't wait to reach book 4 (78 reduce) :D :D :D

* sidenote: I also deleveled this before since i don't see any difference. But out of frustation against ice weilders, I mastered it again and I see better results. :)

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 10:50 am
by Jinx
nice, thanks

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 4:45 pm
by Antione
okay 3 for fire 0 for cold, i guess i'm going fire, thanxs for imput.......

other than that, i was wondering what skills under pacheon to max out, cause i've never really had a bow character before

Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:45 pm
by Shimohime
Skills for Bow: this is my analysis on all the bow skills and their importance

1. Anti-devil- most important bow skill ever! anti-devil crits r amazing
2. Arrow-combo- it's a necessary skill, but for fire archers, I think 2nd book is enough...
3. Hawk- Yes! This is the best archer buff, adds atk rating. The black hawk is useless
4. Autumn-Wind- Useless
5. Demon Arrow- 2nd important buff, adds range
6. Berserker Arrow- Yes! a good skill to use after anti-devil, also AoE, very useful
7. Strong Bow- optional, it has potential if Joymax opens 3rd book, but currently 3rd book of berserker does more damage
8. Passive- keep adding it

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 12:04 am
by Ironchef
What exactly does the hawk do? I noticed my attack rating go up, but i have no idea what it translates to when i hunt. Does it make me land hits more as opposed to missing?

Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:58 am
by djkelvz
increased attack rating makes you hit harder, and the damge you inflict on enemies does not swing too much on the min-max of your damage range. :D

Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:06 pm
by Ice_Warrior
ok i think ice bow wud be better, even though it does lower dmg, it has the ice wall which book3 absorbs 45% of phy dmg which means fire bow will be doing less dmg den u and also the ice guard guves even more defence, wen u say 88% freeze decrease, wen u are froze ur skill get cancled and frostbite slows u down until skill is finished even if u pill it out, i wud go ice because the defence u receive is greater den the dmg fire gives u, BUT lvl slower and also i'm not saying ice owns but fire bow does great dmg and better against pure ints becase of fire wall and fire protection, so if u want gud PVP against pure str get ice, want gud PVP against str (not as gud as bow) but also want gud PVP against pure int go fire =). and ice gud against nukers because if u freeze dem during the nuke, the nuke gets cancled =)

Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:11 pm
by Avalanche
arres ask me in the game, i'll help you out