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Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 7:15 am**

Hi, right now I am a level 33 rogue using Xbow to train, and I have some questions to ask

1) What is a good skill sequence to use when training? I can't seem to get the Xbow skills to loop infinitely because long shot has a longer cooldown time than power shot. The longest one I can pull off is Power Shot > Long Shot > Power Shot > Normal hit + Fast Shot but it still leaves a few seconds in between.

EDIT: I am asking this because when killing party mobs it takes more than 2 skills to kill it xD I know that normal monsters take 2 hits.

2) Is it worth it to get Spinning and Screw? Spinning has no good status effect and screw is both slow and it has a very small percent of stun (which feels like it only lasts 1 second).

3) For those of you rogues that subbed in cleric, do you find Healing and Healing Division useful? Healing cycle seems better and more efficient than both of these.

4) Why can Wounds and Mortal Wounds attack enemies on the ground when daggers don't have any KD skills

Thanks for any answers!

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:40 am**

1)kill mobs that u can 2 hit with long shot and then power shot

2)they are both useful and are needed 2 have in higher lvl skills

3)dunno im bard

4)i really dont know why,but they make more damage if the mob or player is KDed

hope this help ya

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:48 am**

just use only xbow, no daggers skills just the passive skills cuz you hit then better

BTW: all passive skills NOT dagger desperate.

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:18 pm**

Im Xbow (30) with subclass of Cleric (30 too).

I can tell you that Healing Circle is usefull when you or your party wanna kill strong party mobs (champions etc), but it cost too high amount of mana (first level little above 400). 16 sec of additional autopot ^_^.

Next one - Bless Spell - it's neccessary when you use Crossbow Extreme - I can kill Taoist partymobs with that one without running - danage has reduced from ~400 to 40 per hit, on physical hitting mobs i have little better defene than normal non-CE play - something like 15-20 more. And you can kill mobs in 2 hits. On 28 lvl i can kill Death Flowers and Scorpions, on 29 - Yeoha (black one), but on 3-4 skillhits. I dont try stronger mobs actually.

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:52 pm**

does dagger passives help xbow?

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:06 pm**

littleowner wrote:just use only xbow, no daggers skills just the passive skills cuz you hit then better

BTW: all passive skills NOT dagger desperate.

I'm pretty sure that Armands is right in saying that dagger passives don't affect Crossbow

For example, Hawk Eye gives attack rating as a passive but the skill description says "Used: Dagger" or something, so it won't work when crossbow is on :cry:

I wish though.

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:51 pm**

i use long shot>fast shot on the mobs i grind on, usually red or orange.
for party mobs i would do something like:
long shot>power shot>wait for regular shot then fast shot right after>repeat
screw is a very good move but spinning is not worth leveling up at higher levels, like around 25ish.
As a level 32 Rogue/Cleric i have only leveled up healing, revive, and faith.
healing is the only heal that i use.
its possible that wounds and mortal wounds can attack enemies on the ground because theres always the possibility that there is a warrior in your party using kd moves, or you were soloing and quickly switched from xbow to dagger after kding a mob.

littleowner wrote:just use only xbow, no daggers skills just the passive skills cuz you hit then better

BTW: all passive skills NOT dagger desperate.

i am leveling up both xbow and dagger, using xbow to level up and dagger for jobbing and pvp.
dagger does more damage than xbow, so i may be switching to dagger with party play.
and i dont think the dagger passives effect xbow

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:11 pm**

casqueda wrote:i use long shot>fast shot on the mobs i grind on, usually red or orange.
for party mobs i would do something like:
long shot>power shot>wait for regular shot then fast shot right after>repeat
screw is a very good move but spinning is not worth leveling up at higher levels, like around 25ish.
As a level 32 Rogue/Cleric i have only leveled up healing, revive, and faith.
healing is the only heal that i use.
its possible that wounds and mortal wounds can attack enemies on the ground because theres always the possibility that there is a warrior in your party using kd moves, or you were soloing and quickly switched from xbow to dagger after kding a mob.

littleowner wrote:just use only xbow, no daggers skills just the passive skills cuz you hit then better

BTW: all passive skills NOT dagger desperate.

i am leveling up both xbow and dagger, using xbow to level up and dagger for jobbing and pvp.
dagger does more damage than xbow, so i may be switching to dagger with party play.
and i dont think the dagger passives effect xbow

Thanks

But did you really not get bless spell?

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:02 pm**

Advancechao wrote:
casqueda wrote:i use long shot>fast shot on the mobs i grind on, usually red or orange.
for party mobs i would do something like:
long shot>power shot>wait for regular shot then fast shot right after>repeat
screw is a very good move but spinning is not worth leveling up at higher levels, like around 25ish.
As a level 32 Rogue/Cleric i have only leveled up healing, revive, and faith.
healing is the only heal that i use.
its possible that wounds and mortal wounds can attack enemies on the ground because theres always the possibility that there is a warrior in your party using kd moves, or you were soloing and quickly switched from xbow to dagger after kding a mob.

littleowner wrote:just use only xbow, no daggers skills just the passive skills cuz you hit then better

BTW: all passive skills NOT dagger desperate.

i am leveling up both xbow and dagger, using xbow to level up and dagger for jobbing and pvp.
dagger does more damage than xbow, so i may be switching to dagger with party play.
and i dont think the dagger passives effect xbow

Thanks
But did you really not get bless spell?

lol im at 9 gap

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 10:58 pm**

I am lvl 50 atm Rogue/bard.

1. For grinding I use long shot - power shot, but I got quest at yetis so I use long shot - knock down - power shot. They never hit me and with bard sub they dont get aggro on me ^^. I wouldnt be able to kill lvl 60 pt mobs, I dont think it is possible at lvl 50 even with bless spell so Cleric has no use for ME!!!! ( personally so dont flame

)

2. Get all dagger skills, they have long cooldown time and each of them has his own advantage, it will take you some sp farming.

4. I think it is because we are supposed to play in Party's so everybody can attack when an mob is down.

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:35 pm**

Advancechao wrote:Hi, right now I am a level 33 rogue using Xbow to train, and I have some questions to ask

1) What is a good skill sequence to use when training? I can't seem to get the Xbow skills to loop infinitely because long shot has a longer cooldown time than power shot. The longest one I can pull off is Power Shot > Long Shot > Power Shot > Normal hit + Fast Shot but it still leaves a few seconds in between.

EDIT: I am asking this because when killing party mobs it takes more than 2 skills to kill it xD I know that normal monsters take 2 hits.

2) Is it worth it to get Spinning and Screw? Spinning has no good status effect and screw is both slow and it has a very small percent of stun (which feels like it only lasts 1 second).

3) For those of you rogues that subbed in cleric, do you find Healing and Healing Division useful? Healing cycle seems better and more efficient than both of these.

4) Why can Wounds and Mortal Wounds attack enemies on the ground when daggers don't have any KD skills

Thanks for any answers!

1) its logical that you dont have enough skills to use, just wait til ur skills are at lv40 to get Blast shot, the KD skill, then youll be all good. Long shot + Blast Shot + Power Shot + Fast shot will be your combo.

for now i would say just do Long shot + fast shot + power shot + fast shot + long shot..... you dont really have the choice anyway. just use long shot as soon as you can, and fill the gap with Power and Fast shots. like i said at 40 it wont be a problem at all anymore. And then at 50 it will be even better since you will have Intense shot, so you wont have to use fast shot anymore except to finish mobs that still have a little of HP.

2) If you dont get both of those skills, then you'll ended up at high levels with only 3 skills to use (prick, mortal wounds, combo blow), which all have huge cooldowns, and 3 skills wont be enough, you will ended up with no skills to use after all 3 are activated, so what i did myself is get Screw since it have stun status which is really good in PVP, and then with 4 skills you will have almost enough skills to use, youll still have a time tho where all your skills are activated, but it only last like 1 second or so then you can use one again.

3) Yeah for pure str chars like us, with sub cleric (thats what i have), Recovery Division buff activated all the time + Healing Cycle when fighting a giant/pt champion/pt giant or when doing PVP is enough. If you really want one more healing skill, i would suggest getting one with party use, like Group Recovery or Healing Division. But really Healing Cycle should be enough, anyway you dont want to switch weapon all the time to heal yourself, if you cant survive with healing cycle and recovery division then chances are you wouldnt be better with 1 extra skill.

4) Xbow does have a skill that KD, and i already managed to do this: KD with Xbow, switch to daggers, use Scud to run fast to my target, then use Mortal Wounds, this is deadly combo but quite hard to do.

But hey i find it really cool Joymax gave us a skill to help us KS bladers, i think only Rogue Bladers and Warriors have a skill that hit people who are KD! And also, if you have a friend blader, you can make a great team in PVP, since you do have a skill that can hit players KD while most other chars dont.

(Dam big post i'm on fire)

BTW im Lv80 rogue sub cleric (skills at 73 im still farmin) so i know what i'm talking about when speaking about rogue skills!

Posted: **Thu Nov 22, 2007 11:39 pm**

Thanks, I'm leveling up Screw now and I got spinning to level 1 ^_^

Posted: **Fri Nov 23, 2007 10:35 am**

i use long shot>fast shot on the mobs i grind on, usually red or orange.
for party mobs i would do something like:
long shot>power shot>wait for regular shot then fast shot right after>repeat
screw is a very good move but spinning is not worth leveling up at higher levels, like around 25ish.
As a level 32 Rogue/Cleric i have only leveled up healing, revive, and faith.
healing is the only heal that i use.
its possible that wounds and mortal wounds can attack enemies on the ground because theres always the possibility that there is a warrior in your party using kd moves, or you were soloing and quickly switched from xbow to dagger after kding a mob.
littleowner wrote:
just use only xbow, no daggers skills just the passive skills cuz you hit then better

BTW: all passive skills NOT dagger desperate.

i am leveling up both xbow and dagger, using xbow to level up and dagger for jobbing and pvp.
dagger does more damage than xbow, so i may be switching to dagger with party play.
and i dont think the dagger passives effect xbow

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