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new char

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:04 am
by Caedo
im planning on making a euro char. i was going to make a rogue but i thought wizards also have invis so whats the diffrence

warlock and cleric are good 4 subs. warlock 4 solo and cleric 4 partying. euros are good 4 partying but not solo so how should i make it. im not sure i will party that much though.

if theres a better idea plz suggest it. not chinese because it makes me remember the fact that i never made it to lvl 20.

im also not a big fan of s/s

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:15 am
by stoodyhoo
personally i think the warrior/cleric build is all round but what the hell...
wizards invis is not as good as rouges stealth because it does not last as long and i think there is another limitation as well
warlocks dont have to be used just as a sub either they are pretty good as a main class i believe.cleric is an excellent sub for pretty much every class and it is perfect for partying
also, from my experience euros DO NOT have much trouble soloing at all even with the pot delay

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:09 am
by jay0303
i would go with rouge main bard secondary no clue why loll

it just helps

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:53 am
by inoretard2
jay0303 wrote:i would go with rouge main bard secondary no clue why loll

it just helps


Delete ur srf acct.

ur no help.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:27 am
by bowner
inoretard2 wrote:
jay0303 wrote:i would go with rouge main bard secondary no clue why loll

it just helps


Delete ur srf acct.

ur no help.


neither are you you hypocrit, you just provided nothing to the conversation relative to this topic, nice job.
i on the other hand will say

pick the one best suited for you, with a warrior/cleric you can tank amazingly

wizard/cleric has great damage but YOU WILL DIE alot

rogues are strong as hell, no downside that im aware of.

just have fun with it

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:43 am
by Caedo
what r the pros and cons of wiz/warlock and wiz/cleric i have a wizard right now but im scared 2 choose a sub that will benefit in killing uniques and pvp

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:00 am
by Temptation
If you're going wizard, I would take cleric sub because of the healing. The warlocks have the debuffs that help in weakening the unique/pvp target which take time to cast, but are very efficient in increasing dmg.

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:18 am
by juntakashi
rogues are strong as hell, no downside that im aware of.


if u use DE, XE, u die alot (esp xbow -50% hp make ur hp look like pure int)

if u dun use, ur dmg isnt that strong as hell

rogue/cleric is wat alot ppl are choosing...strong in attck, good in def
warrior/cleric is same as above

wiz/warlock is aggressive/disabling build, warlock as a sub is NOT to use the debuff cuz ur wiz nukes are alr strong enough (ok maybe only weaken to increase ur mag dmg to him but i doubt u hv the time to switch weapon and then cast 1,2,3,4 debuff and switch back to wiz staff), it is used mainly to disable(sleep/stun) ur enemy to survive and then deal dmg to kill him

wiz/cleric is a more def build, u will wanna survive ur enemy(bless spell, recovery div) dmg while still dealing tons of dmg

IMO wiz/warlock is better for pvp, wiz/cleric is better for grinding

now why not try warlock/cleric? :wink: thats wat i wanna try out cuz there are way too few warlocks ard...lots of disabling skills (bind, sleep, stun), lots of debuff which make ur dmg hgh and cleric to save life in grind/pvp

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:25 am
by Caedo
thanks 4 the info jun. a warlock/cleric would b interesting. thats a build wanted 4 parties lol. debuff, buff and disable sounds pretty good. the only thing missing is the massive dmg :twisted:

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 4:37 am
by juntakashi
nah...warlock debuffs will make full set sosuner look like a pure int

well if u want massive dmg
bless spell/recovery div ur self --> bind ur enemy --> runs abit and put all the debuffs on him and some warlock nuke if u hv time --> stun/sleep if he gets near ---> runs abit more and put even more dubuffs on him

and then use the cleric sacrifice skill , the 957% (cant remember the exactly number) and BOOM, most build should be dead now

debuff + 957% cleric sacrifice FTW...require gd technique/fast finger/survive b4 u cast everything though

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 3:59 pm
by stoodyhoo
juntakashi wrote:nah...warlock debuffs will make full set sosuner look like a pure int


now i know warlocks are good.they do kick ass. however,clerics have a spell called holy word which can really put a dent in a warlocks skills.paired with a warrior, i still think that warriors are the best all round because of good damage and great defense. as juntakashi said rogues have to use DD or XE to really do damage which in turn reduces their defense by ALOT. a warrior on the same lvl fighting a rouge with same gear could tank a bit and do the same damage that a rouge is doing(or at least close to) due to that reduce in defense. i really think that rogues are slightly overrated

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:38 pm
by COooooRN
Wizard and Cleric beats everything

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:57 pm
by casqueda
jay0303 wrote:i would go with rouge main bard secondary no clue why loll

it just helps


fail