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All-kind nuker

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 9:55 am
by makisquirrel
Hello Guys,


After long thinking :wink: I decided to become a nuker since i'm pure INT. I'm a sword character, and maxing much trees. I would really like to have suggestions on my build, so here it goes.


BICHEON: 15
All possible skills here to LVL 1, accept for casle shield, which i ignord completeley. I will get this tree a few LVL's higher, but keep everything LVL1

HEUKSAL: 0

PACHEON:15 (de-LVLing totally)
With everything maxed out... waste... waste... waste...

ICE: 17
Maxed out everything

LIGHTNING: 17
Maxed out everything

FIRE: 8
I'm going to continue this, but only with the Imbue and the Nuke

FORCE: 17
I've stopped upping this tree, only maxed medicine hand to heal myself, and ressurect.

To lvl 10 I was about an 1:1 hybrid, just for some more HP, this isn't too bad, is it?

Suggestions please, and comments too...
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Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 12:53 pm
by Antione
this is like exactly what i had except
24 bicheon
24 cold
24 fire
24 lightning
12 force

now i switched to
24 bicheon
24 heuskal
24 fire
25 lightning
12 force (i might lvl this to 20, if i need mp, doubt it though)

ice isn't mandatory, granted the ice buffs are decent, but thats about all you can use besides passive, so if you figure, by lvl 68 you spent

335,

2073,

5906,

1545,

1680

skill points just on passive and buffs, that doens't count the thousands you spend lvling cold up to 68 or watver

heuskal allows you to use spear, and do more damage as well as have extra hp (passive) and you also have sword with combos and block. having 2 weapon trees allows for more interesting grinding cause when you bored with 1 you can use the other.

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 4:01 pm
by makisquirrel
Any more reactions? I'm de-LVLing pacheon, maybe raise Heuksal? Drop Ice, Get fire? What do I have to do? [echo]ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh[/echo]?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 6:37 pm
by Antione
alright, heres a list, if you don't want to sp farm but still want a decent sp, keep a 3 lvl gap, so at lvl 20 you should have
bicheon 17 (focus on your chains, once higher lvl, (29) delvling everything but the passive and the chains, this will give you much needed skill points for maxing lightning and fire)
heuskal 17 (don't bother getting any skills besides the passive just wait for ghost petal and tiger chain (lvl 19 and 23))
lighting 17 (this is your tree for imbue)
fire 17
force (its really up to you, you already have lvl 17, so you could leave it there or just lvl it to 20 for the passive although it isn't necessary. otherwise you should just delvl it)

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:57 pm
by makisquirrel
I think i'm going to quit ICE, cuz it isn't worth the tons of SP for the passive and other, weaker skills. Fire is just for Imbue and Nuke, Force for res, Lightning for everything, Bicheon, most thing LVL 1, except for the Chain series, and the passive, Heuksal for the skills ment above and the passive.

Will this be my final build?

Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:53 pm
by dom
You need to find something to specialize in and stop pouring your SP into every single skill you can possibly get.

The problem with spreading thin is you have no reserves, once you reach a higher level and each skill is costing a huge a amount of sp you won't have enough to keep all your skills up and you will fall behind.

You should just pump 2-3 trees until you reach higher levels. The third book of thunder imbue, for instance, costs almost 400 sp at level 45. When you're requiring that much SP for a skill it's easy to pump your other skills and catch up. Just one level of that skill is probably (guestimation) more then the SP it takes to level one tree from 1-20.

Also, if you're going to change your mind you should do it now and stick to it. Deciding to delevel one tree then later releveling it and deleveling another will just waste more sp.

One thing I also find intresting is that alot of people will want to add into the frost guard series and passive of cold just for the defence buffs. IMO these aren't worth it until late game (ie: 4th book of frost guard)Thus you should wait before adding to those skills as they won't make a big difference right away.

And res is a bad choice. Either you max force/res completely (stupid unless you're going healer) or you don't touch it at all. The level 1 res doesn't work on everyone in the game and becomes useless later on.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:59 am
by XuChu
ok like dom said keep 2-3 trees and any skills under 30 just isnt worth the money to withdraw neither with silk or without

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 12:58 pm
by RaiKiRii
lol some pacheon skills can be pwnage for a nuker :)

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 1:21 pm
by Antione
RaiKiRii wrote:lol some pacheon skills can be pwnage for a nuker :)


do you mean pawnage as in owning the nuker, or pawnage as in good for a nuker to use......i thought nukers weren't suppose to get bow cause they already do passive damage at a distance.......*confuzzled* :? :?

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:37 pm
by dom
Personally I find going to 60 spear is alot better then getting a couple extra percentage on blocking. With a high block shield and the extra life from spear you get alot more of a bonus then just a block from shield and a couple more percent. With that being said, you do not have to add much into spear skills (other then passive) or none at all if you're going 19-20 bicheon. This leaves you with some extra mastery points. Alot of nukers add them to pacheon to get the hawk and passive for attack rating; really helps do the top end damage of your nuke.

If you're one of those fly fans that follow his guide religiously, he recently edited/updated it to include the above.

The nukers main weapon will be both a sword/shield AND a spear. You need to get spear masteries up to 60, and max out all the skills up to 20.

Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 3:42 pm
by Antione
hey dom.......i'm planning on getting bicheon and spear up to 30, but not sure which to continue on with, or if i should continue both.....i'm pure int, not hybrid so i have very little health