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i want to make a new char but i got 3 choices Wizard cuz they hit so hard but they die too easy. then i got rogue or blader i like both but which is better cuz rogue hits hard but can they take alot of hits? blader hit low but can take alot of hits so i dont want to choose? give me ur opinions and why and the pro and cons of each if u would. i dont no alot bout the new euro chars cuz i havent been playing since euro came out.

When a rogue uses XX or DD, then it can't take much hits. It will die when a party mob of it's own lvl attacks him. He can't even take a party mob 3 levels lower I think.

But yeah, he hits very good

so a rogue is only good if they can 1 hit their enemy?

rogue/cleric can solo party mobs a couple levels above his level. one at a time anyway.

First try to read guides for all three builds before decide what to do ...

You may make wizard/bard or rogue/cleric or hybrid blader ...
But if you wanna my opinion I will say with pure str rogue/cleric you will get a lot of levels of attack VS tanking

Notice that at all levels you can get "recovery divsion" that work as meduim pots for you all the time ..

*** XE = x-bow extreme , DD = dagger desperate
First level is pure damge and no def :
Use XE or DD with no bless spell (damge near wizard damge and HP and def near them too)

Second level is pure damge and still have def to stay alive good time :
Use XE or DD with bless spell (the same super damge and still take good numbers of hits to die ..

Third level good damge and good great HP :
Don't use XE or DD and don't use bless spell ( still do damge more than all str chinese characters and have same HP as pure str build but only the pots delay)

4th level good damge and great tanking and HP :
NO XE or DD and use bless spell ( same damge and super def with pure str build)

5th level very low damge and the best tanking ability ever in game :
switch to your cleric rod/shield , you are pure str build , have shield , have super super def (cleric passives and buffs) , bless spell , reovery divison and healing cycle , instant healing skills .. nothing can kill you ever .. and although you are pure str build and ceric rod is mag attack weapon and you can't do any damge by mag atack as you have poor INT and mag balance , but you will still do damge if you want when use over healing skill that do constant damge don't depend on your attack nor enemy def

And the diff between rogue and wizard isn't the damge , it's the skills type ..

Rogue do : KB , KD , Stun , Bleed , posion , range or super fast melee attack , stealth , destealth , tag , scorn , do more damge in crits

wizard do : freeze/frost , electric shock , burn , fear , KB , invisible , destealth , telport , bind , have great AOE , do greater damge than non crit rogue skills ..


Hope that help you

ight so rogue can last like a blader cuz u can switch to a shield and rod and then u can also heal ur self?

elnawawi wrote:First try to read guides for all three builds before decide what to do ...

You may make wizard/bard or rogue/cleric or hybrid blader ...
But if you wanna my opinion I will say with pure str rogue/cleric you will get a lot of levels of attack VS tanking

Notice that at all levels you can get "recovery divsion" that work as meduim pots for you all the time ..

*** XE = x-bow extreme , DD = dagger desperate
First level is pure damge and no def :
Use XE or DD with no bless spell (damge near wizard damge and HP and def near them too)

Second level is pure damge and still have def to stay alive good time :
Use XE or DD with bless spell (the same super damge and still take good numbers of hits to die ..

Third level good damge and good great HP :
Don't use XE or DD and don't use bless spell ( still do damge more than all str chinese characters and have same HP as pure str build but only the pots delay)

4th level good damge and great tanking and HP :
NO XE or DD and use bless spell ( same damge and super def with pure str build)

5th level very low damge and the best tanking ability ever in game :
switch to your cleric rod/shield , you are pure str build , have shield , have super super def (cleric passives and buffs) , bless spell , reovery divison and healing cycle , instant healing skills .. nothing can kill you ever .. and although you are pure str build and ceric rod is mag attack weapon and you can't do any damge by mag atack as you have poor INT and mag balance , but you will still do damge if you want when use over healing skill that do constant damge don't depend on your attack nor enemy def

And the diff between rogue and wizard isn't the damge , it's the skills type ..

Rogue do : KB , KD , Stun , Bleed , posion , range or super fast melee attack , stealth , destealth , tag , scorn , do more damge in crits

wizard do : freeze/frost , electric shock , burn , fear , KB , invisible , destealth , telport , bind , have great AOE , do greater damge than non crit rogue skills ..


Hope that help you

Ehm ... I can do the same as you just instead rogue , take warrior and get buffs mana and iron skin and some shield ... sounds like best tank in game to me O.o

lol
rogues are mainly solo
theyre really good for grinding on monsters who have much higher levels than their own
for instance, i was level 27 and planned to farm at ongs at level 32.
As soon as i hit 27, i went to scout out my soon to be farming place, and i found out that i could 3 hit ongs, who are lvl 33/34.
This was great exp, and a big + to me because i didnt have to spend as much time grinding to my farming level.
being able to grind on monsters higher than your own level is also good for the bigger money drops, vigors and such.
also, you get higher lvl equipment as drops, and they sell for more than your own level equipment.

go rogue, i love teh crits

I am rogue and these where my farmin spots:

Lvl 32 -> Rock Gollem (40)
lvl 38 -> Golden/white spiders (47 & 48)
Lvl 42 -> Muijgi/Uijgi (49 & 50)
lvl 48 -> Penonfighter (54)
Lvl 52-> Planned farming on Yeti (59 & 60)

I could 2 hit these monsters so they barely touched me

akuji^ wrote:I am rogue and these where my farmin spots:

Lvl 32 -> Rock Gollem (40)
lvl 38 -> Golden/white spiders (47 & 48)
Lvl 42 -> Muijgi/Uijgi (49 & 50)
lvl 48 -> Penonfighter (54)
Lvl 52-> Planned farming on Yeti (59 & 60)

I could 2 hit these monsters so they barely touched me

hey um
could you tell me how much exp/sxp you got from rock gollems at level 32?
and also where are they located?

also, you said that you 2 hit them, so could you please tell me the stats of your weapon?

rogue with xbow pwns everyone.
there you go, all u need to hear...go for it..rogue ftw

fostina1 wrote:rogue/cleric can solo party mobs a couple levels above his level. one at a time anyway.

wolf helps for tanking extra mobs
=D

ive done those 3 builds
wizard-lv.42 pwn in PVP, was kind of popular for parties, BUT, i couldnt solo grind for shit
rogue-40(xbow, dagger) well i can pwn alot of ppl, not popular for parties, but i could solo grind, reason why i quit them is because it go so boring with the same moves
Blader-31- i own in PVP, i can do some pretty decent solo grinding, and what i love the most is that its so much fun to grind with a blader ^^, bad side is if your in to be the fastest leveler, then blader wont be your rite build, unless u got euro friends

go blader thats my favorite build even though im working on a full int . at 90 or 100 cap bladers will pawn 4 kds+ 4stabs+ a skill that lowers shield defense for physical att power (but u still have the block rate ) if u want high criticals and pot delay and boring lvling, go rouge.BTW dagger rouges can hit 300k critical to mangyangs in zerk !!! so use dagger for pvp and scoring high . but i say go blader i have all 3 of them blader 30, wizard 23 and rouge 3 and i like blader the best.
wanna hit high from the begining? go wiz, wanna hit high at the mid lvls and cap? go DD rouge. wanna pwn at 100 cap? go blader

SuperTanker wrote:go blader thats my favorite build even though im working on a full int . at 90 or 100 cap bladers will pawn 4 kds+ 4stabs+ a skill that lowers shield defense for physical att power (but u still have the block rate ) if u want high criticals and pot delay and boring lvling, go rouge.BTW dagger rouges can hit 300k critical to mangyangs in zerk !!! so use dagger for pvp and scoring high . but i say go blader i have all 3 of them blader 30, wizard 23 and rouge 3 and i like blader the best.
wanna hit high from the begining? go wiz, wanna hit high at the mid lvls and cap? go DD rouge. wanna pwn at 100 cap? go blader

lik ur arguement on both sides.
overall blader is more fun and decent if not the best build

blader best? cant rouges own bladers? but now i want to make a rogue and a blader.

Rogue/Cleric :d

Flame_Glavie wrote:blader best? cant rouges own bladers? but now i want to make a rogue and a blader.

Rogue kill blader in 3~4 non crit hits or in 2 hits when he get crit on him ..

well im a lvl 48 pure str fire blader, and i love it , like everyone is saying it is a fun build. in pvp i kill most ppl my lvl, unless they have som/sosun weapon or armor of course. and i had a high br shield so i blocked a good amount of their attacks. and the kd attacks are good, cuz they cant hit you so u have time to heal with ur pots. grinding does take a little longer to lvl than other builds. but i havnt pvped much euros , the wizards i 1-2 hit kill them cuz of them having no health, and not many rouges at my lvl that pvp. soo cant really say anything about the blader vs rouge thing.

rouges pretty strong, but the pot delay for euros is just annoying. i dont have a rouge char but the xbows do alot of dmg, ive party played with them a enough to see they do good dmg. but i dont know much about rouges tho.

so it depends on what u like really. both good, and both have there down and up sides.

Hershey wrote:

elnawawi wrote:

Flame_Glavie wrote:blader best? cant rouges own bladers? but now i want to make a rogue and a blader.

Rogue kill blader in 3~4 non crit hits or in 2 hits when he get crit on him ..

try that when u get to 80 =] blader is close to unkillable

pure str Blader at 80 take +16 k damge when rogue crit .. he will die super fast if rogue have good br in his weapon ...

Rogue have both : super fast skills (dagger) , super long range (crossbow) .. and you need to know that x-bow have greater chance to KB, KD than blader and from long range ...

But IMO Hybrid blader with snow shield is the best chinese character now .. he will do a lot better damge and will super tanking with snow shileld