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<.< well..this is my opinion-> pvp system has made for testing strenght and build and weapon and damage etc. so pvping "who is stronger than who" so..snow shield is not "srtenght" its skill which've been made for war etc >< not pvp lol

Its easy:

Str hates snow shield in pvp.
Int loves snow shield in pvp.

Ganxta wrote:Its easy:

Str hates snow shield in pvp.
Int loves snow shield in pvp.

yes i know..but i have been playing int char as well. so i can say, that i didnt use snow shield againts own level ppls. becouse i felt its quite unfair skill, becouse wihtout snow shield. i can see how strong reallly i am, even weak player can reach strong with snow shield 40% so i feel bad when ppls use it 1on1 <,<

snow shield is part of the game, so i think it should be used in pvp...
i hate those who say:"snow shield noob..."

Yep its part of the game so accept it.

BlitZ wrote:snow shield is part of the game, so i think it should be used in pvp...
i hate those who say:"snow shield noob..."

I LABB IT!

im a fully farmed int spear hybrid wearing sun armor yet against those fully farmed sun garment glaivers and archers snow shield is a necessity, without snow shield they will win 8/10 but with snow shield i win 100%. some of them but not all of them say "noob sun armor with snow shield blah blah", of course they can use snow shield too but it makes no difference i always win. like MOST lvl 80 fully farmed ints, I have lvl 60 ice therefore my physical def buff is very low, yet the sun garment glaivers and archers have lvl 80 fire and earth fire protection maxed out. it is a fair fight, using lvl 60 snow shield is not cheating.

its part of the game

i agree that its part of the game, but i prefer to win w/o it. its like some kind of honor lol

lol ... how can using snow shield be "noob"? if it was, there is a whole lot others in the game that is really cheezy ...

GruMpY wrote:

BlitZ wrote:snow shield is part of the game, so i think it should be used in pvp...
i hate those who say:"snow shield noob..."

I LABB IT!

BUMP

rofl it's an excuse for people who lose to say that "such and such is cheesy and noob" blah blah

you could practically throw in anything that they're using and say it's cheap etc.

next thing...people will say you win because you have soX items, buffs or what not...

crybabys r us makes pvp worthless...
just pwn them all in guildwars / jobs / castle siege...who gives a ..... what they say or think

ImHarry^_^ wrote:<.< well..this is my opinion-> pvp system has made for testing strenght and build and weapon and damage etc. so pvping "who is stronger than who" so..snow shield is not "srtenght" its skill which've been made for war etc >< not pvp lol

lol, so you basically saying that skills are not meant for pvp. SO you can say to some one "noob" you using imbue xD, wait wait, or even better noob dont use your spear nuke without weapon, test the strenght of build not weapon

GUYUYUYSU -.- not that..i have good experince of high level int spear char...i didnt ENJOY or get any kind of feel "yaeh im strong", when i was using snow shield and won the pvp againts SAME LEVEL...im just saying. that yes..snow shield owns. its ok. butif you wanna feel strong ..dont do it with snow shield >< try reach strenght wihtout snow shield. and then start use that most retarded skill and than say u are strong even without it! lol..snow shield is cool for war <3 snow shield is cool..when ppls start pawn u on pvp arena <3 but WHYYYY 1on1 ?? there is no sence..

1on1 there is idea to fight, and see who has better gears. and weapon and who is stronger..not take "2min unkillable" lol thats weird.

I really dont get it how someone can say its not fair or it makes u coward or anything. Everyone gets new skills, then u might as well say dont use kock back arrow combo, it makes my life harder. And if someone will say that snow shield is any different that arrow combo new, then guess what its also the skill, which ice tree offers, so ice has something really usefull to offer.

And why do people care what others say, they always whine when lose, and need to find things to blame, cause they wanna look almighty and cant accept loss, its their fault. It matter only if you win or not.

lol Snow shield = not fair in pvp

yay

dont care too much about that..dont give up ur advantages everybody will throw their best while pvp/job...

ask blader to stop spamming kd if they say "i hate snow shield"

snow shield is fine its about the only way a chinese character will kill a wizard or rogue and pure str can use it to if they really want to also it adds more variety to builds without it everyone would be fire,light,weap now people actually have to think about how to build their characters

snow shield is part of the skill tree.... i sacrifice other skills just to up the ice force for snow shield. With the point added into ice tree and 300 skill cap..i am unable to max other force. I sacrifice my skill point for ice tree therefore i deserve to gain its benefits. Glaive sacrifice their skill point on some other skill such as bow to gain atk rating. Can i ask them not to use it? they are able to max their force tree because they didnt sacrifice on others.. Can i ask them to limit their skill? they wont... And if ppl said snowshield is unfair... why dont they add snow shield? izzit because they fear ppl call them noob using snow shield? or they wished they had snow shield but doenst have enough skill point for it because skill cap is at 300 only. Snowshield have a quite a long cooldown. If they are good enough. They could kill them within the CD time. But if the snow shield user runs to safe area during CD. ok.. i agree.. They are NOOB.

Well, running for the safe zone is weak independent of your build. If you PvP, you may run, but there should be a valid battlefield area (and the safe zone should not be a part of it). As pointed out already: I too sacrificed my fire tree to have snow shield. It would be strange that I have lost my strongest nukes and imbue, but am not allowed to use my snow shield. I am still vulnerable 33% of the time (although I will happily use frost nova if you are not frost immune, KD you whenever I am in trouble, and of course ironwall shield for another 15 seconds of relative safety). Besides: with 40 percent snow shield I still have less 'HP' than STR users, and if I am not careful I run out of MP (nukes + major damage).

running to safe zone is running away from battle..
phantomwalk to other area is trying to gain range advantage

....Saying no snow shield is like saying bladers and s/s can't use KD, wizards can't use life control, rogues can't use DD or EX, clerics can't use bless spell, laviers can't use stun, and bowers can't use KB combo. Obviously no one can use their bloody fan and iron wall skills either....

Actually, since wizards and rogues are too strong, they can't use their more powerful skills, cuz that's just nooby.

Glaviers should fight without a weapon, and bladers/ s/s without a shield. Bowers should not use any skills at all.

Warriors can't wear any protective armor, or use any self defense buffs....and clerics cannot self heal cuz that's pure noobness.

Warlocks...no debuffs, no stun...just NO!


Skills are skills, having a skill shows off a build...the only problem right now is that those 300 mastery points should never have appeared in the beginning since now everybody has virtually the same build.

torinchibi wrote:....Saying no snow shield is like saying bladers and s/s can't use KD, wizards can't use life control, rogues can't use DD or EX, clerics can't use bless spell, laviers can't use stun, and bowers can't use KB combo. Obviously no one can use their bloody fan and iron wall skills either....

Actually, since wizards and rogues are too strong, they can't use their more powerful skills, cuz that's just nooby.

Glaviers should fight without a weapon, and bladers/ s/s without a shield. Bowers should not use any skills at all.

Warriors can't wear any protective armor, or use any self defense buffs....and clerics cannot self heal cuz that's pure noobness.

Warlocks...no debuffs, no stun...just NO!


Skills are skills, having a skill shows off a build...the only problem right now is that those 300 mastery points should never have appeared in the beginning since now everybody has virtually the same build.

thats crap and you dont get it...as lv72 str bow..i have 6k mp..i could use 20% snow shield there...i handle 2mins my own level nukers with it wihtout problems..thats the problem.>waste of pots for 2mins? its fucing gayful,,,why cant just pvp wihtout snow shield and fast see who is better..2mins are just wasted if i use snow shield (only if int does) so..its not like glavier stun. or blader's kd..its skills. which all chineses've got..but using it. is waste of time. so better no use...i agree in war. becouse int can tank at least 2 ppls with it,,but its really gay on pvp

YES AND BTW..only 1 way i accept snow shield 1on1 pvp -> if you pvp againts higher level. or SOSUN player,,,and about europeans..any of eu buffs arent same that snow shield. becouse i'd admit all eu buffs for them..becouse they'd have 15sec potion delay. so they will die anyway unless they've got more lucky n hit first.

I run to the safe zone if the other person (Or group of people) is a goddam idiot who just stands there and kills me over and over again after the 5 seconds protection is gone. I am a rogue, so I normally can't kill someone @ my level without buffs, and if I buff I would die within 1-2 hiits, so eh...I don't see a point in NOT running, really.

Oh, and using stealth/duplicate isn't being a noob, its to give me preemptive strike advantage.

I got one hitted by a rouge without snow shield, but when using it, I pwn him cuz i like have 2 times more hp

of course use it in 1vs1 pvp, especially for a spear man cause they almost have no defense. tell a rouge and wizard to stop using invisibility and stealth, it just stupid, but guess what its part of the game so they just use it. tell the warriors to not use the stupid kb and kd, and tell all the chinese chars to stop spamming pots first..

at any chance, will there be fire shield in the future adding xxx%mag absorption for str char?

well since fire protection - ice guard
snow shield - fire shield maybe?
to make it fair for the str abit

+1 i hate it when ppl call u noobs when u use snow shield
and they run to safe one till snow shield runs out
as im an int charecter it saves my life many a time
and with me sp farming i am sorta weak so need all the advantages snow shield gives

the 1 skill i hate is stunn but as someone said its part of the game
i dont moan when i get stunned but then i put up snow shield and the moaning starts

You all should take note snow shield is part of the game and if you pvp against me i wont hesitate i will use it ))

ImHarry^_^ wrote:... pvp system has made for testing strenght and build and weapon and damage etc....

snow shield is part of the build you are testing...