pure str chinese archer vs euro builds?

Vuesters92 · Post by **Vuesters92** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:36 pm

can this build still stand at least1 hit from pure int euro chars?

X20AFreedom · Post by **X20AFreedom** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:04 am

HELL NO unless with buffs for example mag def increase fire wall crystal wall then u can stand hit from them. pure str must be fire mastery.

torinchibi · Post by **torinchibi** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:40 am

At cap, against wiz with a nice weapon(+5 or +7), no. I have doubts if even a Blader can stay alive after 1 hit from a wizard at cap. Oh, and if you can, the second shot will kill you potting like mad or not, you can't recover 100% hp after a hit that takes out over 90%.

the_wicked · Post by **the_wicked** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:53 am

go blade and max out the defense buff and the inviso detect skill in fire to kill rogues, go glaive and max out mag defense buff + inviso detect to kill wizards =P

RyokuJutsu · Post by **RyokuJutsu** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:57 am

you would need garment gear even to stand a chance, but it should be possible to survive 1 hit, and hopefully u can 1 hit it...i think that it would go back and forth who wins.

Vuesters92 · Post by **Vuesters92** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:17 pm

RyokuJutsu wrote:you would need garment gear even to stand a chance, but it should be possible to survive 1 hit, and hopefully u can 1 hit it...i think that it would go back and forth who wins.

i have garm on and died. plus the euro nuke can launch faster than my bow skills. its all about speed.

torinchibi · Post by **torinchibi** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:43 pm

Again, refer to the bow video thread to see a blader level 80 full sun get 1 shot with a crit from a rogue. Which reminds, me, a level 76 rogue gets 1 shot by level 66 wiz using life control, when the rogue had +5 light armor and was not using CE or DD.

And to give you some facts,
72 staff +7 > 64 sun spear +5
Add life turnover and > 64 sun +14
Best nuke atm = 300%+100% imbue
Best Wizard nuke atm = 439% + double % damage from passives, at level 80, it is extra 80%

So we are looking at 400% chinese nuke vs 519% euro nuke atm.

So ask a level 80 nuker with a sun +5 spear to nuke your target of choice, add another 1/2 of that damage (1/4 from skill damage difference, and the it is probably more like 1/4 from life turnover), ask for the target's total HP.
Now if HP > nuke + nuke x 0.5 , and you think you can ever have that same defense, you have successfully survived an attack from every level 80 wizard with a +7 staff. If you realize that even a sun blader with super pimped +7 gears can't stand up to a nuke like that.....well, you most likely could never do it even with bloody fan series.
Again, if you do survive 1 nuke, hope you can kill the wizard before he fires the next, because it will most likely kill you and if they die once, they will fear you and kill you next time.

I don't think you would want me to compare sun bladers with sun wizards if the outcome was clear even with the above comparison, but hope to god no one ever gets a seal of honor staff because not even bless spell or warrior buffs will save you then.

A wizard doesn't have to use their damage buffs to win, they choose to use them because with damage buffs on it's 1 shot KO and if they can take 1 long range hit then the winner is decided.

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MrLonely · Post by **MrLonely** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:29 pm

hehe..somewhere on official Sro site i once read description about euros written by JoyMax, which said something like euros are party based, so each of them completes another and saves their weak spots and stuff, and in the end was stated that in 1vs1 combat euros will have hard time against chinese. Killing in 1 hit doesnt seem hard time for me :roll:

But maybe new skills of chinese which will come later will change things, who knows

†erminal · Post by **†erminal** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:54 am

who else is slightly pissed at euro's op killing ability, i can't stand the pot delay for grinds though

mmsicis · Post by **mmsicis** » Thu Oct 11, 2007 12:07 pm

i heared that 90 cap brinds new era. It will be more balanced. Saw a videos like glavier could handle like 5 xbow hitts even crits. The int spear hybrid with snow shield was tanking a warrior but when snowshield went off rogue needed onl 1 hit. Bladers with high br was good. Bladers actuly can kill euro becouse pot delay. Best builds str builds against euros becouse they have more hp. And we all know the most dengerous builds are rogues and wizards. Str against rogues is good against wizards max out your garments mag def. Also take fire. Chinese will have chance against euros. 80 Cap just sucks. Although im w8ing for privte servers. With nonboter like me get to cap with even int.... i just cant

Imma make blader sooon :roll: