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Bow vs pure int s/s
Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:35 pm
by Sektorn
vote plz
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:18 am
by X20AFreedom
pure int s/s will win.bow isnt the strongest weapon no one said it was. there is no exactly strong in this game every weapon has a weak point. face the fact plz
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:20 am
by mike2007
bows own pure ints regaurdless of what kind of bow it is all the time.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:38 am
by X20AFreedom
mike2005 wrote:bows own pure ints regaurdless of what kind of bow it is all the time.
ahhh use ur brain and watch wat u r saying. if a nuker get ice he can still tank dun forget that thing. and also the shield block rate is high. bowers hardy win blader.unless the bow has high attack ratting. dun underestimate a int. u cant even ks a full int nuker , so dun talk crap .idiot
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:52 pm
by glavie
Grinding pure int wins, not by much
PVP bow will win if bower is in garms. Again not by much. A lucky block and knock down could always change the outcome.
hybrid int sword can beat me, but how many hybrid int swords are out there?
Both bow and nuker can have snow shield.
This is my opinion based on my experience, however There are fewer good bowers in general. I have never fought a bow and lost.
based on experience up to lvl 64
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:54 pm
by ThePwnedOne
hybrid int s/s

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:32 pm
by mike2007
X20AFreedom wrote:mike2005 wrote:bows own pure ints regaurdless of what kind of bow it is all the time.
ahhh use ur brain and watch wat u r saying. if a nuker get ice he can still tank dun forget that thing. and also the shield block rate is high. bowers hardy win blader.unless the bow has high attack ratting. dun underestimate a int. u cant even ks a full int nuker , so dun talk crap .idiot
im a bow i still have yet to b killed by a full int my own lvl in pvp snow shield or not. shield block rate doenst do shit anymore in pvp with the 120 block ratio on weapons. ud need a block rate of 21-23 or higher in order to get a 1-3% chance in of a block. archers have high atk ratings compared to most cus we have buffs and a passive for it. i ks nukers all the time when they piss me of enough i just have to change my tactics while grinding if i cant do enough dmg with strongbow then i use arrow combo after it and no nuker has ksed me with those 2 and my range cus it takes them too long to get to the mob and start their nuke. i just shot down everythin u had in your illogical post, so in your own words, "dun talk crap .idiot"
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:59 pm
by torinchibi
glavie wrote:Grinding pure int wins, not by much
PVP bow will win if bower is in garms. Again not by much. A lucky block and knock down could always change the outcome.
hybrid int sword can beat me, but how many hybrid int swords are out there?
Both bow and nuker can have snow shield.
This is my opinion based on my experience, however There are fewer good bowers in general. I have never fought a bow and lost.
based on experience up to lvl 64
And this is where your arguments stop being correct. Up to level 73, not much difference, but after that, KD >KB, and s/s will have disease and impotent, decreasing both your offense and defense. 1 nuke with disease on and your hybrid is down for the count, and a shout will be your KO punch. But that's still only if disease and impotent land.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:32 pm
by glavie
torinchibi wrote:glavie wrote:Grinding pure int wins, not by much
PVP bow will win if bower is in garms. Again not by much. A lucky block and knock down could always change the outcome.
hybrid int sword can beat me, but how many hybrid int swords are out there?
Both bow and nuker can have snow shield.
This is my opinion based on my experience, however There are fewer good bowers in general. I have never fought a bow and lost.
based on experience up to lvl 64
And this is where your arguments stop being correct. Up to level 73, not much difference, but after that, KD >KB, and s/s will have disease and impotent, decreasing both your offense and defense. 1 nuke with disease on and your hybrid is down for the count, and a shout will be your KO punch. But that's still only if disease and impotent land.
I have heard that status has a large effect. Though i am sure there are a few good capped bowers that would disagree with you. After all we do get knock back with basically a 100% chance of success and a decent critical increase.
1 benefit to being pure int sword though is you could always block that 1 hit kill from a euro.
I will never be able to do that
Euro will be a big change. PvP will last for only a few hits. It will have more to do with luck and lag.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:41 pm
by Sektorn
glavie wrote:Grinding pure int wins, not by much
PVP bow will win if bower is in garms. Again not by much. A lucky block and knock down could always change the outcome.
hybrid int sword can beat me, but how many hybrid int swords are out there?
Both bow and nuker can have snow shield.
This is my opinion based on my experience, however There are fewer good bowers in general. I have never fought a bow and lost.
based on experience up to lvl 64
but im planning on doing a Full int Nuker with
armor can a 80:80 bow kill me easy?
i see 80:80 bow and full int nuker are pretty good on grinding and pvp...
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:54 pm
by glavie
Well like I said before I can't comment past lvl 64. But I generally can take 3 nukes in a row before i go down (i am in protector)and they can tank 2-3 hits from me. This is both of us not using snow shield.
I think criticals can over power a pure int with snow shield easier, however if i was knocked down after i crit then the fight keeps on going on. Tanking a sword nuker while i am using snow shield generally has not been a problem. I just phantom away if my health drops. This gives me time to pot up while I pray for a crit.
I really don't think armor helps much against hybrid bowers, but don't forget there are very few bowers out there. If you go s/s you will worry about glaviers and stuff not bows. Armor would help against them of course.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:05 pm
by Sektorn
glavie wrote:Well like I said before I can't comment past lvl 64. But I generally can take 3 nukes in a row before i go down (i am in protector)and they can tank 2-3 hits from me. This is both of us not using snow shield.
I think criticals can over power a pure int with snow shield easier, however if i was knocked down after i crit then the fight keeps on going on. Tanking a sword nuker while i am using snow shield generally has not been a problem. I just phantom away if my health drops. This gives me time to pot up while I pray for a crit.
I really don't think armor helps much against hybrid bowers, but don't forget there are very few bowers out there. If you go s/s you will worry about glaviers and stuff not bows. Armor would help against them of course.
yeah but im saying... bower dont have 90cold mastery.. nukers have so they have snow shield much stronger.. btw can a 80:80 kill a pure str glavier?
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:36 pm
by yamataka
Bows have KB and Stun at 76 ... and both the s/s int and the bow will probably have snow shield.
So it all depends on the luck of whether or not the s/s int blocks. As far as KD helping the s/s int ... so many s/s int don't really bother with bicheon at all and just nuke.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:01 pm
by tomiotar
Sektorn wrote:but im planning on doing a Full int Nuker with armor can a 80:80 bow kill me easy?
i see 80:80 bow and full int nuker are pretty good on grinding and pvp...
Im 1:1 not 80:80 but I can tell you that if you want to fight this hybrid bows is better go in garment than on armor. I get the hardest fights against hybrids int ss using garments and with a good shield, but if you use armor I dont need any crit to kill a pure int.
Sektorn wrote:
yeah but im saying... bower dont have 90cold mastery.. nukers have so they have snow shield much stronger.. btw can a 80:80 kill a pure str glavier?
On my hybrid bow 35% is highest % that i can use on pvp without having problem with the MP (I think that 80:80 can use 40%). Killing glaviers is perfectly possibly for this build mainly because your regular damage is higher than the damage they can pot. Due to that you will slowly lowering their health until you get a good crit or stun to finish them, but is priority mix some arrow combos to cancel attacks and avoid getting stuned so they can recover all their HP.