i think many people have seen the 1 : 1 glavie hybrid guid of elnawawi..
i was thinking it looked good etc. so i created a new char and started the build, im lvl 19 so far and it works verry good. when i was 18 i pvped a pure str glavie sos with my standard lvl 16 glavie guess what, i won 3 out of 3. for so far i can see this build works.
here it comes.. if this build wil work with glavie, than it should also work with blade? am i right?? please tell me your oppinions on this and plz take it serious i could be truly mistaken, but if im not, we got another hybrid build
need your brains on this plz reply
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Sylhana
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Well if it works for 1:1 bow, 1:1 glaive, then it will work for 1:1 blade, but you still have to rely on division from lightning chain to go for the kill. In terms of tanking, wearing prot would still enable you to tank well enough, so you wont loose that bit from being a blader :/
I hv a 1:2 s/s char lvl 80 pre euro, couldnt kill. Should fare better with lightning chain. Dont know really, hvnt tried.
I hv a 1:2 s/s char lvl 80 pre euro, couldnt kill. Should fare better with lightning chain. Dont know really, hvnt tried.
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Max bicheon in particular take the lightning chain path. Take the standard kd and stab, br+ passive, and the shield tech series. Its up to you if you want blade force series.
Take lightning for the mag+ buff, speed and imbue (if not fire). Take the concentration series if you have the extra sp. 1:1 using blade wouldnt make you the best nuker on your server, so you dont have to max light nuke or shout, just use them for dragging mobs to your char. Mind you, petal sword dance would do this equally well, so you dont really have to take shout or nuke.
This is the problem, ice or fire. My prediction is that you still cant kill effectively enough even if you max out fire to lvl 80, with the passive, buffs and the fire imbue. If you go with Ice masteries being higher, you would benefit from snow shield (and yet you dont have to max it at 50%, you could leave it at 20% and still benefit greatly). Frost guard series also makes a big difference. So this is where you would have to decide for yourself I guess. My personal feeling on this based on my 1:2 hybrid is to drop fire and just tank like crazy, but thats just me.
My suggestion for a balance atk build:
80 bicheon (skills, passive, buffs), 80 fire (imbue, passive, buffs), 80 light (buffs, speed), 30 ice (snow shield).
Then at 90 cap
90 bicheon, 90 fire, 90 light, 30 ice
If you dont like to farm much:
80 bicheon, 80 fire, 60 light, +/- 30 ice.
Try to get a decent prot set at cap lvl. +4~5 with full blues.
The only advantage I can say this build has is its versatility. Just for comparison, if you can tank 5 players with a pure str blader, this build can tank 3. The damage you deal using skills is proportionally equal to either pure str chars or pure int chars.
Additional thoughts: I know players who made 5:1 str hybrid blader, 2:1 str hybrid blader, and they have had varying success. Most of this is probably skewed because of failed pvp against players with sosun equips. Your experience at lower lvls will not reflect what it will be like at cap lvl. Hybrids are better than pure builds initially. At cap lvl, equips makes a big difference and hybrids really need those blues badly.
Take lightning for the mag+ buff, speed and imbue (if not fire). Take the concentration series if you have the extra sp. 1:1 using blade wouldnt make you the best nuker on your server, so you dont have to max light nuke or shout, just use them for dragging mobs to your char. Mind you, petal sword dance would do this equally well, so you dont really have to take shout or nuke.
This is the problem, ice or fire. My prediction is that you still cant kill effectively enough even if you max out fire to lvl 80, with the passive, buffs and the fire imbue. If you go with Ice masteries being higher, you would benefit from snow shield (and yet you dont have to max it at 50%, you could leave it at 20% and still benefit greatly). Frost guard series also makes a big difference. So this is where you would have to decide for yourself I guess. My personal feeling on this based on my 1:2 hybrid is to drop fire and just tank like crazy, but thats just me.
My suggestion for a balance atk build:
80 bicheon (skills, passive, buffs), 80 fire (imbue, passive, buffs), 80 light (buffs, speed), 30 ice (snow shield).
Then at 90 cap
90 bicheon, 90 fire, 90 light, 30 ice
If you dont like to farm much:
80 bicheon, 80 fire, 60 light, +/- 30 ice.
Try to get a decent prot set at cap lvl. +4~5 with full blues.
The only advantage I can say this build has is its versatility. Just for comparison, if you can tank 5 players with a pure str blader, this build can tank 3. The damage you deal using skills is proportionally equal to either pure str chars or pure int chars.
Additional thoughts: I know players who made 5:1 str hybrid blader, 2:1 str hybrid blader, and they have had varying success. Most of this is probably skewed because of failed pvp against players with sosun equips. Your experience at lower lvls will not reflect what it will be like at cap lvl. Hybrids are better than pure builds initially. At cap lvl, equips makes a big difference and hybrids really need those blues badly.
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ah i see, thanks alot. well as i said i now have this lvl 20 1:1 glavie build, but it has heuksal,
do you think its better to continue this build but drop heuksal and add bicheon? ore to just create a new char with this build 1 : 1 blade ORe to just create a pure str blade if i want to use blade??
do you think its better to continue this build but drop heuksal and add bicheon? ore to just create a new char with this build 1 : 1 blade ORe to just create a pure str blade if i want to use blade??
sorry for my bad english..
Before the euro update that included new chinese skills. Heavy hybrids were considered to do very poorly. Why was this? I am going to assume it was because there is a STR based weapon(blade) and a INT based (sword). If you are int hybrid you could use the sword and not suffer badly because you can get swords with potentially higher critical stat.
I would think that if you are 1:1 then the weapon will not work efficiently.
Yes you do more damage but, not enough to make up for the loss of hp.
So why will hybrids work now?
Snow shield. It allows you to take advantage of your added mana to allow you tank as well as a PURe STR for 2 min, while dealing more damage then a STR could.
A 1:1 build can have mana shield at 35%. So you would need ice to be at least that high.
I would recommend going hybrid int like 70:70 or 1:2. That way you can still tank like an str with mana shield and use nukes more effectively.
A 70:70 seems to be able to run snow shield at 40%
Oh if it works with hueksal it would work with bichon.
I would think that if you are 1:1 then the weapon will not work efficiently.
Yes you do more damage but, not enough to make up for the loss of hp.
So why will hybrids work now?
Snow shield. It allows you to take advantage of your added mana to allow you tank as well as a PURe STR for 2 min, while dealing more damage then a STR could.
A 1:1 build can have mana shield at 35%. So you would need ice to be at least that high.
I would recommend going hybrid int like 70:70 or 1:2. That way you can still tank like an str with mana shield and use nukes more effectively.
A 70:70 seems to be able to run snow shield at 40%
Oh if it works with hueksal it would work with bichon.
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im brainstorming ...
if u really want a hybrid blader get ice. with snow shield.not fire,fire will make u cant tank damage.hybrid always go with ice and lightning nowadays.
but still i think full str is better in all ways since blader dun require so much Mana for their skills.unlike archer those insufficient mana will keep appearring in front of ur screen telling u that u are screwed.
but still its worth to try and tell us the result.and also there will be a new skill for blader and it decrease ur def but i dun know if it incease ur mag & phy or only phy damage are increased.if that skill did come out then tell us the result im thinking hybrid ice/light or full str fire/light would win.
if that skill really adds phy damage full str would most likely benefit from it as the damage is mutiple with ur str + skill damage and skill damage percent.if it happens to crit it will be far higher than int.and if u r a hybrid when someone has like 20k hp at lvl 80 u will only has 10k+hp depending how much str u added.
if u really want a hybrid blader get ice. with snow shield.not fire,fire will make u cant tank damage.hybrid always go with ice and lightning nowadays.
but still i think full str is better in all ways since blader dun require so much Mana for their skills.unlike archer those insufficient mana will keep appearring in front of ur screen telling u that u are screwed.
but still its worth to try and tell us the result.and also there will be a new skill for blader and it decrease ur def but i dun know if it incease ur mag & phy or only phy damage are increased.if that skill did come out then tell us the result im thinking hybrid ice/light or full str fire/light would win.
if that skill really adds phy damage full str would most likely benefit from it as the damage is mutiple with ur str + skill damage and skill damage percent.if it happens to crit it will be far higher than int.and if u r a hybrid when someone has like 20k hp at lvl 80 u will only has 10k+hp depending how much str u added.