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pure str glaiver or hybrid bower

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:01 pm
by Vindicator
Im sp farming a new str char, however i dont know if i want to use glaive or bow. AFAIK, pure str glaive is best glaive build, and a hybrid bow is the best bow build, so those are my two main focuses, however im open to suggestions.

I want to do damage and still be able to live. I already have a hybrid s/s nuker that godlike with no sosuns as it is, so i want a new char. CHINESE! i already have a euro so no euro suggestions :P even if hey do pwn.

Glaive has tons of stuns, tons of hp, and ghost spear = the smex

Bow is ranged, new knockback is awsome because it saves your life 1 million times. IT also stuns, plus the attacks have crit increase, and i've heard that it does more damage than glaiver.

So im asking you, as a pro hybrid s/s nuker, and a noob str person, what do you suggest?

Every time i think i know what im doing, i see a payer, or a movie, or someone talking about another build, and im like ooo dam bow is awsome, or ooo dam glaive is awsome.

Also, for the glaiver / bower pros out there, try to think about lvl 90 since that is what im planning for and wont have much lvl 80 time most likely.

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SO, lets assume lvl 80 fully farmed glaiver and bower, which would you choose? i just broke 200k sp this morning and before long ill be power lvling myself up to 72ish where i should be 80 in no time with a 0 gap.

Also think about the lvl 90 cap, since that is what i will most likely participate the most in.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:51 pm
by Drunken
massive damage?
lots of hp?
high critical?

my friend, you have just chosen a Pure Str Glavie :D

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:27 pm
by Hasbin
hybrid bow 13:37 ratio

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:48 pm
by rogue84
Hasbin wrote:hybrid bow 13:37 ratio


+1




str fire glavie

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:19 pm
by darkmaster21
Pure STR bowman...for amazing crits and awesome HP.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:18 am
by Vindicator
darkmaster21 wrote:Pure STR bowman...for amazing crits and awesome HP.


thats what i was thinking...but in generall pure str bow seems rather weak except on the crits.

massive damage?
lots of hp?
high critical?

my friend, you have just chosen a Pure Str Glavie


TBH, thats what i wana hear :)

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:27 am
by Deathsythe
Dual Weapon pure str Heuskal/Pacheon/Fire/Light

awesome build

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:04 am
by Drunken
Vindicator wrote:
darkmaster21 wrote:Pure STR bowman...for amazing crits and awesome HP.


thats what i was thinking...but in generall pure str bow seems rather weak except on the crits.


thats why the bow has skill that improve your critical, so critical attacks happen often. for example, the first attack the bow gets *devil series* gets a bonus 10 to your critical. so if you happen to find a good bow with 10+ critical and use the devil series, you are now have 20 critical. thats why the bow was upgraded. now bows have the highest chance to do critical attacks. and they also get a knock-back skill *the 5-arrow combo* which throws the enemy farther away from you, so they basically can't attack you often. Bow also gets a Stun attack which stops the enemy dead in their tracks. now if you combine all of these effects *high Critical, knock-back, and stun* you will pwn because bow is a ranged weapon :D

bla bla bla...

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:13 am
by Barotix
80:80 hybrid spear 8)

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:52 am
by Drunken
at least the glavie attacks differently, unlike the bow :roll:

only difference with the bows attack is, How long the char holds the arrow before he lets go :D think about it.

with glavie, the char swings his glavie or throws if diffrently :D

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:42 pm
by Vindicator
this decision is really really hard, because i KNOW i want a str char.....or mostly str, but i want a bower AND a glaiver. Glaive has massive stuns, super hp, and mars which is HOT!

Bow stuns, kbs like crazy, and attacks from a range. Ive seen the new glaive skills, but what about bow skills...any one have anything on new bow skills?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 9:48 pm
by bakafish
Bow skills are just basically cast skills, pretty dull IMO.
However, Pure STR glaive is a boring build too...
It's all up to you I guess... But i'm gonna suggest a Hybrid STR bow though.
Not sure about the ratio though.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:53 am
by Drunken
BakaFish wrote:... pretty dull IMO...


i never understood what IMO stands for? :D

anyways back to your Q. Think about this. Is it really worth to be a bow user ? i meen because you got no defense and you only get the awesome skills at 70+, you have to waste countless money on pots. You NEED to have lots of gold in order to pull it off in lower lvs. bow is an all around weapon.

unlike the glavie. with the glavie you get more hp then the bow. more power. you still do massive damage w/o critical. most people waste money on pots to replenish their magic so they can do more magic attacks. with a glavie, you got the power already. you really dont need skills to grind unless its a giant, party, ext. if you can wait 4 sec, you really end up saving money that you can spend on more powerful items.

just what i came to notice. keep in mind all of this is an opinion

Re: pure str glaiver or hybrid bower

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:56 am
by BuddahBless
Vindicator wrote:Every time i think i know what im doing, i see a payer, or a movie, or someone talking about another build, and im like ooo dam bow is awsome, or ooo dam glaive is awsome.


LoL me too.

But just stick with glaive. They are still the kings of pvp. Good offense, good defense, you can't go wrong with a glaiver.

Also they are less dependant on good gear. Good gear is just icing on the cake for a glaiver.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:02 am
by Ell
Drunken wrote:
BakaFish wrote:... pretty dull IMO...


i never understood what IMO stands for? :D

In my opinion.

Re: pure str glaiver or hybrid bower

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:39 am
by Vindicator
BuddahBless wrote:
Vindicator wrote:Every time i think i know what im doing, i see a payer, or a movie, or someone talking about another build, and im like ooo dam bow is awsome, or ooo dam glaive is awsome.


LoL me too.

But just stick with glaive. They are still the kings of pvp. Good offense, good defense, you can't go wrong with a glaiver.

Also they are less dependant on good gear. Good gear is just icing on the cake for a glaiver.


lol...i just watched vids of thenew glaive skills and the new bow skills.....now im 10000x more confused! although it seems like glaive is winning out here....i have like a month to decidde before my guy is done farming and ready to use real skills, HOPEFULLY by then i can make up my dam mind.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:46 am
by Drunken
:D happens to the best of us. you think you are going to like your build or gear or whatever you got, then you see some1 else with cool stuff. next thing you know you are back at lv 1 with a new char :(

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:55 am
by Panu
dude all i can say is go to youtube , type in Silkroad Undutchable (he is also on these forums) , watch his videos, u will see him own STR glaivers easily

pure str bow is the way to go, trust me, its a good decision.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:59 am
by DeathBeforeDishonor
bow wont be as good untill lvl 73-76 because you wont have knockback or stun untill then...but glaive has it from a low lvl

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:20 pm
by bakafish
Drunken wrote:i never understood what IMO stands for? :D

In My Opinion.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 12:26 pm
by Doctor_MOS
BakaFish wrote:Bow skills are just basically cast skills, pretty dull IMO.
However, Pure STR glaive is a boring build too...
It's all up to you I guess... But i'm gonna suggest a Hybrid STR bow though.
Not sure about the ratio though.


what are you thoughts about pure str and hybrid str now?

*edit* im not high level yet, which you think will peform better?

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:05 pm
by Puma60

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:18 pm
by bakafish
Doctor_MOS wrote:
BakaFish wrote:Bow skills are just basically cast skills, pretty dull IMO.
However, Pure STR glaive is a boring build too...
It's all up to you I guess... But i'm gonna suggest a Hybrid STR bow though.
Not sure about the ratio though.


what are you thoughts about pure str and hybrid str now?

*edit* im not high level yet, which you think will peform better?

I would go for a heavy str hybrid.

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:31 pm
by Puma60
I used to be Glavie a while back...and it got so boring! I changed to Bow - faster grinding, and more fun

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 3:14 pm
by Drunken
_Panu_ wrote:dude all i can say is go to youtube , type in Silkroad Undutchable (he is also on these forums) , watch his videos, u will see him own STR glaivers easily

pure str bow is the way to go, trust me, its a good decision.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLJLG1H5DFc

pure str glavie wins again :D

Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:27 pm
by Vindicator
Puma60 wrote:Have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT9hyWlvwx0


argh, quick i need an awsome glaiver video before i go into shock and have another breakdown because idk what to do!!!!

that guy has a sun+7 bow and most likely full sosun protector.....i hear bowers pwn with sosun, but otherwise they are pretty weak :(

SO, lets assume lvl 80 fully farmed glaiver and bower, which would you choose? i just broke 200k sp this morning and before long ill be power lvling myself up to 72ish where i should be 80 in no time with a 0 gap.

Also think about the lvl 90 cap, since that is what i will most likely participate the most in.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:39 am
by elnawawi
Vindicator wrote:
Puma60 wrote:Have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT9hyWlvwx0


argh, quick i need an awsome glaiver video before i go into shock and have another breakdown because idk what to do!!!!

that guy has a sun+7 bow and most likely full sosun protector.....i hear bowers pwn with sosun, but otherwise they are pretty weak :(

SO, lets assume lvl 80 fully farmed glaiver and bower, which would you choose? i just broke 200k sp this morning and before long ill be power lvling myself up to 72ish where i should be 80 in no time with a 0 gap.

Also think about the lvl 90 cap, since that is what i will most likely participate the most in.


Already we all watched many a lot of vedio show pure str bow against pure str glavier ... before the update it was glavier who win most time ...
After Euro update with +73 bow skills you can see both bow and glavie can win .. I think the chance is 1 : 1 when pure str bow fight pure str glavier .. and IMO both are boring ..

BUT ,
Did you watched : kaws(undutchable) ? he was 80:80 bower
Did you watched liquidsmooth ? he was hybird str bower
Did you watched them own all other builds ? both builds are unique and can own pure str glaviers easily ...( and the prove is that we didn't hear about full str glavier or full str bower own hybird bow before .. and no vedio in YouTube show us that ) ...

So hybird bow is more logical and much better .. and ask all players who played as pure str and switched (or restart) to Hybird ..

And after all .. don't try to play the best charecter .. it's a game .. and too long game .. so just choose the build you love and play the style you love and don't care about who is the best and who is the worst ... we are humans not machines and we can choose the worst and still enjoy it very well .. I know many players did a pure int bower (the worst build as people say ) and they love these charecters too much and see it'a a very funny .. lol

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:34 am
by Rizla
Drunken wrote:pure str glavie wins again :D


Who cares at 3x.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:33 pm
by Fat_Smurf
dude just ask guildies to do a npc fight we should have pure str glaver and bower in our guild who can affrod npc crap nha?

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 12:57 pm
by Vindicator
elnawawi wrote:
Vindicator wrote:
Puma60 wrote:Have a look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT9hyWlvwx0


argh, quick i need an awsome glaiver video before i go into shock and have another breakdown because idk what to do!!!!

that guy has a sun+7 bow and most likely full sosun protector.....i hear bowers pwn with sosun, but otherwise they are pretty weak :(

SO, lets assume lvl 80 fully farmed glaiver and bower, which would you choose? i just broke 200k sp this morning and before long ill be power lvling myself up to 72ish where i should be 80 in no time with a 0 gap.

Also think about the lvl 90 cap, since that is what i will most likely participate the most in.


Already we all watched many a lot of vedio show pure str bow against pure str glavier ... before the update it was glavier who win most time ...
After Euro update with +73 bow skills you can see both bow and glavie can win .. I think the chance is 1 : 1 when pure str bow fight pure str glavier .. and IMO both are boring ..

BUT ,
Did you watched : kaws(undutchable) ? he was 80:80 bower
Did you watched liquidsmooth ? he was hybird str bower
Did you watched them own all other builds ? both builds are unique and can own pure str glaviers easily ...( and the prove is that we didn't hear about full str glavier or full str bower own hybird bow before .. and no vedio in YouTube show us that ) ...

So hybird bow is more logical and much better .. and ask all players who played as pure str and switched (or restart) to Hybird ..

And after all .. don't try to play the best charecter .. it's a game .. and too long game .. so just choose the build you love and play the style you love and don't care about who is the best and who is the worst ... we are humans not machines and we can choose the worst and still enjoy it very well .. I know many players did a pure int bower (the worst build as people say ) and they love these charecters too much and see it'a a very funny .. lol


ya, but they have sosun bows...anyone can pwn with a sosun weapon.

Fat_Smurf wrote:dude just ask guildies to do a npc fight we should have pure str glaver and bower in our guild who can affrod npc crap nha?


good idea....but most of us are kick ass inters >.<