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SPF question (rogue)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:12 pm
by yanmel
im now rogue lvl 38 (75%)
with gap of 5 (which means my mastery is 33)
and i have all rogue tree full EXEPT daggers skills..
and i have bard tree (mastery 33 too) with skills "moving march" and "noise"

i have right now 14k sp...
for now i know i need about 8k-9k for level 40 masteries (without daggers)

but i wanna add daggers maybe (even though i dont think ill use it much)

how do you sugest me to SPF?
and what is the best weapon for PVE? (no PVP! i hate PVP lol)

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:19 pm
by Juey
try go from 0 to 5 gap, then get all your equipment up to your level, then close the gap wear full equipment, then go fro 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 gap again, and repeat.

Crossbow is best against monsters clearly.
Dagger is best in PvP.

Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:58 pm
by redneck
How many times are people going to ask about spf for rogue??!??!

gap 0-2 no more.... u will have more then enough sp even with a subclass

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:43 am
by Pink-Pantha
ummm.... SPF?

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:49 am
by Ell
Skill point farming. Sp farming.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:12 am
by Pink-Pantha
ooh, thanks

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 5:11 am
by XemnasXD
redneck wrote:How many times are people going to ask about spf for rogue??!??!

gap 0-2 no more.... u will have more then enough sp even with a subclass


not according the the most recent SP charts.....oh redneck does anything you have have merit or a base.... :roll:

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:30 am
by Atsuten
How many times are people going to ask about spf for rogue??!??!

gap 0-2 no more.... u will have more then enough sp even with a subclass


WRONG

For my Rogue/Cleric, I need 5-6 gap for all Rogue skills + Bless, Recovery Division, <rez>, Healing, <16 sec HoT>

I think that gives me enough SP for all skills at lvl 70... been a while since I did the calculation.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 11:15 am
by Etrad
Depends.

With lvl 1 stealth/tag/scorn (not worth maxing out IMO maybe except stealth if you want to job alot), and maxed out poison weapon/circle, and:
crossbow only: 127,683 sp
dagger only: 167,731 sp
crossbow & dagger: 241,547 sp

subs:
Bard (moving/swing march, noise): 56,505 sp
Cleric (reverse, bless spell, recovery division[lvl 6 faith to unlock]): 61,364 sp

0 gap from 1-80 = 128,233 sp (rogue xbow w/ no sub)
1 gap from 1-80 = 156,728 sp (rogue dagger w/ no sub[need to farm 11,003 sp])
2 gap from 1-80 = 192,349 sp (rogue xbow w/ bard or cleric sub)
3 gap from 1-80 = 238,145 sp (rogue xbow & dagger[need to farm 3,402 sp] or rogue dagger w/ bard or cleric sub)
4 gap from 1-80 = 299,195 sp (rogue xbow & dagger w/ bard or cleric[need to farm 3,716 sp] sub)
5 gap from 1-80 = 384,675 sp (81,764[cleric sub] or 86,623[bard sub] spare sp)

Anything more than 5 gap is unneeded for the 80 cap.
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For myself, I am going pure xbow w/ bard sub, getting mastery to 70, then 0 gap w/ only raising 1 mastery till lvl 79/80, then delvl mastery back to 70 and start to farm with at lvl 79/80 (no point getting mastery to 71, cause you don't get any damage bonus from mastery, and all skills are learned on even numbered lvls).

All xbow skills + bard's noise/march at mastery 70 = 101,105 sp
2 gap from 1-70: 103,506 sp

So yea, no real need to farm if you are following my way.

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:53 pm
by DeShin
Quoted for Etrad, +1 :)

Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:54 pm
by WhiteFalcon
go for daggers.....great critz....way more damage than xbow....