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Cleric/Wizard
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:36 am
by Matrixman__
ok, i was planning on making a Cleric with Wizard sub (tell me if this is not a good idea) so i can buff me and my union mates while hunting. But i just did the sp requirements for this and the total is 523k sp
i thought there was no farming needed for euro characters....well, powerleveling FTW i guess.....
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 5:30 am
by HakubiNi
The moment you equip your staff to cast Wizard spells, most your Cleric buffs will get instantly dispelled.
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:00 am
by Nantosh
HakubiNi wrote:The moment you equip your staff to cast Wizard spells, most your Cleric buffs will get instantly dispelled.
Not all..(ie Bless, magic reflect thingy...um and another I think, though bless is the most important)
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:55 am
by Aiyas
If you intend for cleric to be you main class, then you're really wasting your time getting a wizard subclass, IMO. The only exception to this is if you choose which class you're going to play as before you join a party. It's almost impossible to play as both in one party, if you want to fully utilize the cleric's buffs while still being an effective nuker.
I have a wizard with a cleric sub. I mainly play the role of a nuker, but if someone dies(the main cleric, in particular), I can res them quickly, and go back to fighting. Plus, the light armor is an improvement over the robes.
Either way, I highly doubt that you'll actually need THAT much SP, in the end.
Good luck whatever you decide to do.
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:05 am
by Aura
what would be a good wizard sub class then?

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:07 am
by Aiyas
Aura wrote:what would be a good wizard sub class then?

Bard seems to be the popular choice, nowadays.
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:21 am
by Aura
i heard most chinese nukers moved to become wizards...
are they that good?
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:29 am
by Aiyas
Aura wrote:i heard most chinese nukers moved to become wizards...
are they that good?
In terms of sheer power, yes, they are good.
However, they are about as tough as toilet paper.
Now, this problem
could be lessened if a wizard has a warrior sub-class, but I haven't heard of anyone trying it. *patiently waits for the "What are you, stupid!? That'll never work!" replies*
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:38 am
by Matrixman__
that suck, a wizard/cleric would be cool, i would get the best of both, but i was afraid that the buffs would go away when switching to wizard weapon, are there any good sub for cleric, i want a cleric only for the buffs, is there any useful sub class than?
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:20 am
by silverbreed
ive got a wizard/cleric
bcuz i was always dieung so i wanted heal then wen i was ptin there waz no rezer guy so i got that skill n now i like it
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:25 am
by Snudge
Cleric+Warrior ftw.
You get ze sexy armor, and Shield Trash pwns as well. <3
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 9:27 am
by Lance
Aiyas wrote:Now, this problem could be lessened if a wizard has a warrior sub-class, but I haven't heard of anyone trying it. *patiently waits for the "What are you, stupid!? That'll never work!" replies*
ive sugested that on the main wizard topic, and i think i might go warrior subclass just to wear armour (they do look quite cool )
but the cleric defence buffs makes up for the heavy armour? and being cleric sub class, u can wear light armour and that offering spell is very hard to resist >__<
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 1:42 pm
by RedRoach
Im Cleric/Wiz and it kicks a ss , Im Pure Int , Light armour and I can decide what to do.. For partying , I mainly pick cleric but if they need another mage , I can do that too..
For Jobs , I usually use cleric for buffin myself (bless etc.) then switch to wiz and kill my enemy..
So.. why do you waste ur time going wiz as sub , Aiyas?

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:16 pm
by Matrixman__
RedRoach wrote:Im Cleric/Wiz and it kicks a ss , Im Pure Int , Light armour and I can decide what to do.. For partying , I mainly pick cleric but if they need another mage , I can do that too..
For Jobs , I usually use cleric for buffin myself (bless etc.) then switch to wiz and kill my enemy..
So.. why do you waste ur time going wiz as sub , Aiyas?

I thought the buffs went away when u switched back to wiz, but i think i will make a cleric wiz sub, i love to be able to buff myself with those awesome buffs, and if i want i can go on a ownage spree as a wizard, 525k sp tho, oh well, i think it will be worth it to do it
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:00 pm
by Aiyas
RedRoach wrote:Im Cleric/Wiz and it kicks a ss , Im Pure Int , Light armour and I can decide what to do.. For partying , I mainly pick cleric but if they need another mage , I can do that too..
For Jobs , I usually use cleric for buffin myself (bless etc.) then switch to wiz and kill my enemy..
So.. why do you waste ur time going wiz as sub , Aiyas? 
Okay, let's try this again.
Aiyas wrote:I have a wizard with a cleric sub. I mainly play the role of a nuker, but if someone dies(the main cleric, in particular), I can res them quickly, and go back to fighting. Plus, the light armor is an improvement over the robes.
Do you follow what I'm saying now? I enjoy blasting the s**t out of people. I don't like being a buffer, but I can fill in briefly if there is a problem.
@Matrixman__
You may want to also check this guide out if you need any help with your cleric.
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=57311
I think you would be fine if you chose to be just a cleric(that's just my opinion.)
Again, good luck whatever you choose to do.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 6:39 pm
by Gokenzul
Wiz/Bard - Moving March and Noise
Never take Cleric sub unless you really like hearing "dude can you heal?"
If I wanted to heal the party I would be playing a cleric. The only time the Cleric sub is really worth having is when jobbing you have to res your partners.
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:37 pm
by Matrixman__
Aiyas wrote:RedRoach wrote:Im Cleric/Wiz and it kicks a ss , Im Pure Int , Light armour and I can decide what to do.. For partying , I mainly pick cleric but if they need another mage , I can do that too..
For Jobs , I usually use cleric for buffin myself (bless etc.) then switch to wiz and kill my enemy..
So.. why do you waste ur time going wiz as sub , Aiyas? 
Okay, let's try this again.
Aiyas wrote:I have a wizard with a cleric sub. I mainly play the role of a nuker, but if someone dies(the main cleric, in particular), I can res them quickly, and go back to fighting. Plus, the light armor is an improvement over the robes.
Do you follow what I'm saying now? I enjoy blasting the s**t out of people. I don't like being a buffer, but I can fill in briefly if there is a problem.
@Matrixman__
You may want to also check this guide out if you need any help with your cleric.
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=57311I think you would be fine if you chose to be just a cleric(that's just my opinion.)
Again, good luck whatever you choose to do.

WOW, thank you so much, this is exactly what i was looking for, i tried searching, but i suck at searching for things, again, thank you!!!!

Re: Cleric/Wizard
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:48 pm
by Hitman144
Matrixman__ wrote:ok, i was planning on making a Cleric with Wizard sub (tell me if this is not a good idea) so i can buff me and my union mates while hunting. But i just did the sp requirements for this and the total is 523k sp
i thought there was no farming needed for euro characters....well, powerleveling FTW i guess.....
wizard with cleric sub is better build i think that , my opionion.
or a cleric with barb as sub
Re: Cleric/Wizard
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 8:00 pm
by Matrixman__
hitman144 wrote:Matrixman__ wrote:ok, i was planning on making a Cleric with Wizard sub (tell me if this is not a good idea) so i can buff me and my union mates while hunting. But i just did the sp requirements for this and the total is 523k sp
i thought there was no farming needed for euro characters....well, powerleveling FTW i guess.....
wizard with cleric sub is better build i think that , my opionion.
or a cleric with barb as sub
what kinda of buffs can a Bard cast that remain active when swithing back to cleric, b/c cleric need to keep weapon equiped for str/int buff, and party healing....stuff like that, i was just looking for something usefull that can aid a cleric or make a cleric better