3 or 4 leveling gap? Rogue **Advice On New Char Needed**

[krydel]

Should i do a 3 or 4 leveling gap until 80? or should it be lower/higher. I guess im needing alot of sp for crossbow AND daggers

p.s are there any strictly european guilds about? i live in europe and would be nice to play with people in the same timezone not 6-8hours before/after me

[DeShin]

If I were you, I will restart all over again and make sure the build is there, planning sub, level gap and such. It's never to hard to level, cause of the exp helper that provide for you each newly created character plus now 20% exp extras.

Euros character are abit "complicated" for me, in terms of choosing sub, suiting for your playstyle, pt leveling or no and such. Because sometimes you might want the best damage dealer ever and the fastest euro character ever but then when giant spawn or champion is there, you can't do anything due to the fact that the def for damage dealer is low and worst case having 15 secs pot delay, making it the 1 hit ko DD as well as 1 hit ko by enemy.

Warrior is good when due to the fact can KD ppl (2h sword), having good defense. Rogue on the other hand having highest damage but hp is cut down due to their desparate or xbow extreme. So in terms of dmg, you can expect rogues are almost similar to wizards.

Anyway do a deep research, that's what I can advice to you. Have fun

[krydel]

thanks for the advice. seeing as though i might start again after some research, which server is good for newbies and is not too crowded, im on mercury at the moment but there is no academy/help/guilds or english people for that matter

[DeShin]

Less crowded server probably poseidon, persia, zeus, alexander, eldorado and pacific. And as far as I'm concern, many new starters are in odin and hercules, mercury I still see the progression yet will pilled up crowded soon. If you looking for academy, then should join at those oldest server like xian, greece, alps and etc.

[afiqk]

if you have lots of money you could do that like thats what i did. i had a lvl 32 2h and since i had a main that was rich i made it go back down to 0 and made rogue wit warlock sub. but i wouldnt afvice you do it becuase you must be really rich

[Gokenzul]

Less crowded server probably poseidon, persia, zeus, alexander, eldorado and pacific. And as far as I'm concern, many new starters are in odin and hercules, mercury I still see the progression yet will pilled up crowded soon. If you looking for academy, then should join at those oldest server like xian, greece, alps and etc.

All new servers eventually become the most crowded. When I started Hercules it was the least crowded, now older servers are less crowded. Mercury will eventually become crowded, after weeks listed as Populate new players (and gold farming bots and player bots) will migrate to it.

[5581]

one of my friend is changing from warrior to rogue, now he is lv40, i think he is going for dagger rogue only, maybe you can do that too, all depends on yourself.

and if you compare to wizard i does not agree what deshin said, maybe for some class meeting a same lv party or giant, rogue still can handle them, you just need to turn off those buff and heal yourself by pots, then run to safe place, wait the pot cd time end, do not on the buff and fight with the giant, you will win most of the time, pots use with vigor, makesure you got 5 vigor along with you to kill a giant. if you are sub cleric, just buff and redpots with the giant. this is because rogue hp is str and not like a wizard, they have no other choices to select. rogue is a flexible class

[DeShin]

All new servers eventually become the most crowded. When I started Hercules it was the least crowded, now older servers are less crowded. Mercury will eventually become crowded, after weeks listed as Populate new players (and gold farming bots and player bots) will migrate to it.

Ya that's what I do, make opposite with them, they join new servers i join those mid-oldest. But I will choose server that is mid-crowded like tibet, rome.

[DeShin]

one of my friend is changing from warrior to rogue, now he is lv40, i think he is going for dagger rogue only, maybe you can do that too, all depends on yourself.

and if you compare to wizard i does not agree what deshin said, maybe for some class meeting a same lv party or giant, rogue still can handle them, you just need to turn off those buff and heal yourself by pots, then run to safe place, wait the pot cd time end, do not on the buff and fight with the giant, you will win most of the time, pots use with vigor, makesure you got 5 vigor along with you to kill a giant. if you are sub cleric, just buff and redpots with the giant. this is because rogue hp is str and not like a wizard, they have no other choices to select. rogue is a flexible class

Ya I know. That's the major drawback of euro, due to the fact that of pot delay time and def and hp is low (wiz or rogue+dd/ce) you having hard time to kill giant, what's more with party monster alone. I believe that most of you playing low def or low hp character will run when you see giant, doesn't you. I quite agree with your sayings, in order to kill it, you need to espace it, run to a safe place, then kill it hit-by-hit then run it then hit it again until giant is died. But then, it's not that effective isn't it, as in wiz will ks you during your running escape and aggro mob and such.

If you turn off dd or ce, then that's probably won't be the pure essence of playing euro already, except slotting yourself into a party with cleric. Because the purpose of implement dd or ce is to boost up the dmg but decrease your defensive ability. This come to the meaning that it's either you kill the monster 1 on 1 fast or you die, "it's now or never". And this works the same in PvP, of course you are not going to run awhile shoot deactivate dd, run awhile shoot deactivate dd isn't it.

My playstyle are more to solo-based and killing the monster 1vs1, that's probably what I think. IMO .. cheers

[StealMySoda]

Hercules, SRForce is there

[krydel]

is it possible to max rogue tree and another tree to 69 for 8th degree (which is highest lvl of armor, right?) heavy armor, or isnt it needed? i see alot of xbowers runnin round in heavy

[DeShin]

is it possible to max rogue tree and another tree to 69 for 8th degree (which is highest lvl of armor, right?) heavy armor, or isnt it needed? i see alot of xbowers runnin round in heavy

You are given the chance to max, the most is two skilltrees.

[corkscrew]

restart your character...def...

[krydel]

is it possible to max rogue tree and another tree to 69 for 8th degree (which is highest lvl of armor, right?) heavy armor, or isnt it needed? i see alot of xbowers runnin round in heavy

You are given the chance to max, the most is two skilltrees.

that would be alot of SP for two skilltrees, i think maybe id do rogue/cleric if i felt the need, wouldnt do it until rogue itself was max e.g lvl 80 (a few years later hehe). i think i might start on eldorado server, unless someone is willing to take me under their wing into some guild on another server? hehe. open to tips and advice on new char.

What im going to do so far:
-Get lvl 4 skills
-2+ gap then onwards im not quite sure how much yet, going to need quite a bit to take both crossbow and daggers
-Train Daggers before Crossbow(start with daggers)
-Pure Str

[5581]

one of my friend is changing from warrior to rogue, now he is lv40, i think he is going for dagger rogue only, maybe you can do that too, all depends on yourself.

and if you compare to wizard i does not agree what deshin said, maybe for some class meeting a same lv party or giant, rogue still can handle them, you just need to turn off those buff and heal yourself by pots, then run to safe place, wait the pot cd time end, do not on the buff and fight with the giant, you will win most of the time, pots use with vigor, makesure you got 5 vigor along with you to kill a giant. if you are sub cleric, just buff and redpots with the giant. this is because rogue hp is str and not like a wizard, they have no other choices to select. rogue is a flexible class

Ya I know. That's the major drawback of euro, due to the fact that of pot delay time and def and hp is low (wiz or rogue+dd/ce) you having hard time to kill giant, what's more with party monster alone. I believe that most of you playing low def or low hp character will run when you see giant, doesn't you. I quite agree with your sayings, in order to kill it, you need to espace it, run to a safe place, then kill it hit-by-hit then run it then hit it again until giant is died. But then, it's not that effective isn't it, as in wiz will ks you during your running escape and aggro mob and such.

If you turn off dd or ce, then that's probably won't be the pure essence of playing euro already, except slotting yourself into a party with cleric. Because the purpose of implement dd or ce is to boost up the dmg but decrease your defensive ability. This come to the meaning that it's either you kill the monster 1 on 1 fast or you die, "it's now or never". And this works the same in PvP, of course you are not going to run awhile shoot deactivate dd, run awhile shoot deactivate dd isn't it.

My playstyle are more to solo-based and killing the monster 1vs1, that's probably what I think. IMO .. cheers

maybe you have missunderstand of my meaning, i just run off once and not count as hit and run. you also can stay still to hit it, just need to turn off the dd/ce. you can solo a giant by that, just if people ks you is another problem.

[whiteraven]

with my 30% moving march i run away for every giant no problems with that i also got stun and slumber skill of warlock but doesnt work always xD why attact a giant if you can run and save some pots?