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A few questions (im new to the new version)

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:59 am
by ryuko2121
1. Are asian characters stronger than europeian ones?
2. explain the pros and cons for the masteries (caster, warrior, bard) for europeian characters.

3. explain the pros and cons for the asian masteries
4. is there still the thing where, when u lvl up, you can add 3 points to HP and 3 to MP?

5. If yes to #4, what HP and MP points would I need for each mastery?

Thanks alot! Im still kinda confused with all the new europeian stuff!
:cry:

P.S. I just want a character with the best damage

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:59 am
by atlanser
1. I think euro chars are stronger but they have 15 sec pot delay opposed to chinese 1 sec pot delay

4. yeah euro and chinese have stat points u put in str or int a lvl up

I you want best dmg you should be pure int wizard for europe or pure int sword/spear for chinese chars
sry cant answer ur other questions

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:47 am
by monkey289
For the pros and cons, go to guides and tutorials and read, or click here

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:07 am
by Atsuten
xbow rogue is good... after you get the off/def skill at lvl 20

ok

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:31 am
by ryuko2121
Thanks alot for the help.

Im gonna be a pure - int wizard =)
My questions are all in Bold

Im gonna get fire menalist for sure. (since fire does the most damage right?)


Is there still the 300 max mastery thing? If so, what other things can i get? since the level cap is 90, (90 wizard... still 210 left...)


P.S. 1. Can wizards wear a staff and a shield at the same time or not?
2. Should wizards have staffs or not?
3. Oh yeah, and, what happened to bowman?
4. What armor do wizards wear?
5. Is there like a strength boost or something if you are a theif or hunter or do jobs not give any bonuses?

Re: ok

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:40 am
by Biscuit
ryuko2121 wrote:Thanks alot for the help.

Im gonna be a pure - int wizard =)
My questions are all in Bold

Im gonna get fire menalist for sure. (since fire does the most damage right?)


Is there still the 300 max mastery thing? If so, what other things can i get? since the level cap is 90, (90 wizard... still 210 left...)


P.S. 1. Can wizards wear a staff and a shield at the same time or not?
2. Should wizards have staffs or not?
3. Oh yeah, and, what happened to bowman?
4. What armor do wizards wear?
5. Is there like a strength boost or something if you are a theif or hunter or do jobs not give any bonuses?


Concerning your fire mentalist stuff: Don't just focus on one, since every tree seems to have great skills. I don't play wizz, but the lightning thing with knockback is amazing for example.

Concerning your mastery cap: Euros work differently, you get +2 to your max mastery per level. So you would have 300 at the level 150 cap if it ever comes out. This means you can only have two masteries raised to your character level.

Concerning your numbered questions:
1. In general you can only use a classes skills if you have the corresponding weapons equiped. A staff is a two handed weapon, no shield for wizzards.
2. If they don't have a staff, they are not a wizzard.
3. Who is bowman?
4. Robe, the european equivalent to chinese garment. You can wear heavier armor if you have a second class that allows it.
5. I only have a basic job item. Those give either +1 str or int.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 9:59 am
by ryuko2121
for number 5 i mean : like do jobs give bonuses like how in chinese skills whenever you level ur mastery there is a +1% bonus for something.

and for number 3 i mean what happened to BOWS for europeian characters.

BOUT THE MAX MASTERY LEVEL =
if you get +2 max mastery per level, that means that you can get 2 mastery levels up (for example fire mentalist and... force mental)..

that means that at level 90 (max level) you can have a max of 180 max mastery level right?

P.S Pure-int wizard inflicts the most damage right?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:44 am
by DeShin
1. Are asian characters stronger than europeian ones?
Yes for sure. Especially wizard nuke is superb.

2. explain the pros and cons for the masteries (caster, warrior, bard) for europeian characters.
Caster
Pros: Damage dealer for sure.
Cons: Wiz break the record by dying the most. Most of the warlock skill is DoT, cursing and etc, so you would expect more on doing that rather than doing massive dmg.

Warrior
Pros: Built to be offensive and defensive balance. Phy def increases. You expect Kd, dull and such.
Cons: 1 handed s/s almost similar to chinese str blader, 2 handed sword have slowest attacking speed, dual axes only does the average dmg overall.

Bard
Pros: The most supportive sub class that people will get. (besides cleric)
Cons: Overall for mages, bard has the weakest dmg.

3. explain the pros and cons for the asian masteries
That would be "Chinese" for my reference.
Pros: Of course when we talk about chinese, we are refering to so-called solo-leveling where most of the skills are solo-based. Chinese IMO the most effective race when it comes to PvP to the fact that Euro having massive pot delay, while chinese only split-second. There are Pure Str Blader, Pure Str/Hybrid INT/Pure INT Bow, Pure STR Glavie, Pure INT Spear/Hybrid INT Spear, Pure INT S/S, Hybrid INT S/S.
Cons: The major drawback of chinese as far as I'm concern is SP farming because there are like 3 masteries minimum for you to max it, so it's like OMG!!

4. is there still the thing where, when u lvl up, you can add 3 points to HP and 3 to MP?
When you level up, your hp and mp will both increase even without adding them, what's more if you add them.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:50 am
by DeShin
1. Can wizards wear a staff and a shield at the same time or not?
Of course not, that's 101% sure.

2. Should wizards have staffs or not?

The main weapon for wizard, why not.

3. Oh yeah, and, what happened to bowman?

Bowman as in chinese bowman? Well chinese we call it as Bow, Euro we call it as Crossbow.

4. What armor do wizards wear?
If you going for pure wizard, you can expect your character to wear robe all-the-time.

5. Is there like a strength boost or something if you are a theif or hunter or do jobs not give any bonuses?
No idea at all.

P.S Pure-int wizard inflicts the most damage right?
Yes, it's nuker, so you dealt the most. In terms of defense, wizard are just vice versa of their damage.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:07 am
by ryuko2121
new questions:
1.What mastery supports Xbow? Warrior?

BOUT THE MAX MASTERY LEVEL =
if you get +2 max mastery per level, that means that you can get 2 mastery levels up (for example fire mentalist and... force mental)..

that means that at level 90 (max level) you can have a max of 180 max mastery level right?

P.S Pure-int wizard inflicts the most damage right?

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:49 am
by DeShin
1.What mastery supports Xbow? Warrior?
Crossbow is from the class Rogue, at Melee.

BOUT THE MAX MASTERY LEVEL =
if you get +2 max mastery per level, that means that you can get 2 mastery levels up (for example fire mentalist and... force mental)..

that means that at level 90 (max level) you can have a max of 180 max mastery level right?

Yes. Which in another word, you can have a sub, to either support yourself in leveling or become a dual-weapon class.

DeShin wrote:
P.S Pure-int wizard inflicts the most damage right?
Yes, it's nuker, so you dealt the most. In terms of defense, wizard are just vice versa of their damage.

Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:24 pm
by Biscuit
ryuko2121 wrote:[...]

BOUT THE MAX MASTERY LEVEL =
if you get +2 max mastery per level, that means that you can get 2 mastery levels up (for example fire mentalist and... force mental)..

[...]


There are no elemental masteries for euro characters. All wizzard skills are under the one wizzard mastery. Every element is just one of the skill trees under that mastery.

ok

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:10 am
by ryuko2121
Ok thanks just some more questions (i seem to have a neverending brain full of questions, im such a stress-pot)

1. If you are only a wizard, you cannot wear any other armor than robes?
2. So, since you can get a total of 180 max mastery levels, and the level cap is 90, you can get 2 maxed masteries... AND you can only +2 levels of mastery per level... Can you choose to +2 mastery levels of the SAME MASTERY? Or do they have to be 2 different masteries??
3. For the mentalist skills, which one does the most damage?
4. For the mentalist skills, do you have to start with earth? Meaning, is there a level that you need to be to use fire, lightning and all the rest?

Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:19 am
by DeShin
1. If you are only a wizard, you cannot wear any other armor than robes?
Yes. You can have a clear picture of this by actually leveling only wizard skilltree part.

2. So, since you can get a total of 180 max mastery levels, and the level cap is 90, you can get 2 maxed masteries... AND you can only +2 levels of mastery per level... Can you choose to +2 mastery levels of the SAME MASTERY? Or do they have to be 2 different masteries??
The Euro system works like this, every level up you unlock 2 masteries level, so with that 2 masteries level, you are freely to distribute it/raise it of ANY masteries, don't care whether it is on Wizard masteries or Bard masteries or Cleric masteries.

3. For the mentalist skills, which one does the most damage?
Fire ele does the most damage.

4. For the mentalist skills, do you have to start with earth? Meaning, is there a level that you need to be to use fire, lightning and all the rest?
It's up to your preference. Some people like to frostbite/freeze monster first, so they up cold, then follow by fire and such. I think when you hover your mouse at the skills, the skill description will pop up and explains the whole things, including the requirements and SP needed and such.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:59 am
by ryuko2121
DeShin wrote:1. If you are only a wizard, you cannot wear any other armor than robes?
Yes. You can have a clear picture of this by actually leveling only wizard skilltree part.

2. So, since you can get a total of 180 max mastery levels, and the level cap is 90, you can get 2 maxed masteries... AND you can only +2 levels of mastery per level... Can you choose to +2 mastery levels of the SAME MASTERY? Or do they have to be 2 different masteries??
The Euro system works like this, every level up you unlock 2 masteries level, so with that 2 masteries level, you are freely to distribute it/raise it of ANY masteries, don't care whether it is on Wizard masteries or Bard masteries or Cleric masteries.

3. For the mentalist skills, which one does the most damage?
Fire ele does the most damage.

4. For the mentalist skills, do you have to start with earth? Meaning, is there a level that you need to be to use fire, lightning and all the rest?
It's up to your preference. Some people like to frostbite/freeze monster first, so they up cold, then follow by fire and such. I think when you hover your mouse at the skills, the skill description will pop up and explains the whole things, including the requirements and SP needed and such.


For number 2.
Say you just got a level up....Can you raise one mastery levels in wizard and... one mastery in.... bard???
Say you just got another level up....Can you raise two mastery levels in wizard?

For number 4.
I mean like... so hard to explain -.-, can you raise fire first or is it like chinese characters where you need a certain levels for each skill book?

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:01 pm
by Biscuit
ryuko2121 wrote:[...]

For number 2.
[...]
Say you just got another level up....Can you raise two mastery levels in wizard?

[...]


Only if it doesn't raise your mastery level over your character level.


ryuko2121 wrote:[...]

For number 4.
I mean like... so hard to explain -.-, can you raise fire first or is it like chinese characters where you need a certain levels for each skill book?


Why don't you just start the game and have a look at it yourself? All the information on the level requirements and the preconditions for individual skills are visible from the get-go.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:24 pm
by ryuko2121
o well just a few more questions

1. SP farming is when you have a gap between your HIGHEST MASTERY LEVEL and your CHARACTER LEVEL???

2. an SP farming gap should only go as high as 9???

3. Pure - Int wizard does the most damage???

4. What is the best job for a Pure - Int wizard?

5. Are pure - int wizards good merchanters?

6. What is the difference between being a low star trader or high star? do u get more money when you are high star??

7. Name characteristics of every europeian mastery. (include if it is good in pvp, pve, its best job, its worst job, damage, and any other characteristic.)

8. SInce every level you can add +2 mastery levels, if you are level 1 and you have 2 sp, then you can only add +1 mastery level right? So, if you level up again until level 3, can you add +3 mastery levels or still only 2?

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:51 pm
by Biscuit
ryuko2121 wrote:o well just a few more questions

1. SP farming is when you have a gap between your HIGHEST MASTERY LEVEL and your CHARACTER LEVEL???

2. an SP farming gap should only go as high as 9???

3. Pure - Int wizard does the most damage???

4. What is the best job for a Pure - Int wizard?

5. Are pure - int wizards good merchanters?

6. What is the difference between being a low star trader or high star? do u get more money when you are high star??

7. Name characteristics of every europeian mastery. (include if it is good in pvp, pve, its best job, its worst job, damage, and any other characteristic.)

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!


1. Yes.

2. Also, yes.

3. Pretty much.

4. Don't know. Might depend on what class your opponent has.

5. I have a cleric/bard that is at least similar in hp and multiple spawns with crossbow rogue NPCs can get a bit nasty. However, as you usually run infront of your transport a wizzard should have a much easier time taking them out.

6. The difference is indeed the money you put in and the profit you get in return. The price is that you get more thief spawns (more like thieve armies) and can get attacked by player thieves even under level 40 (starting with 2* trades)

7. Too lazy, do the research yourself.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:02 pm
by ryuko2121
okay...

So, wouldn't pure-int wizzies die agains player theives? since wizzies have low HP...?

and... so, the higher your merchant stars are the more money you can get from merchanting?

Im left with:

1. Are pure int wizzies good at merchanting?

2. What is the best wizard job...?

3. Name characterietics of each euro mastery (Good at PvP? good at player vs monster? How good damage? It's best job? It's worst job? The weapon the job uses? The armor the job uses? Any additional info!

4. If im pure int wizzard and i get warrior lvl 1 JUST for the armor, is it possible?

5. If im pure int wizard and i wear warrior armor is my attack (magic stuff) less good?

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:13 pm
by Biscuit
ryuko2121 wrote:okay...

So, wouldn't pure-int wizzies die agains player theives? since wizzies have low HP...?

and... so, the higher your merchant stars are the more money you can get from merchanting?

Im left with:

1. Are pure int wizzies good at merchanting?

2. What is the best wizard job...?

3. Name characterietics of each euro mastery (Good at PvP? good at player vs monster? How good damage? It's best job? It's worst job? The weapon the job uses? The armor the job uses? Any additional info!

4. If im pure int wizzard and i get warrior lvl 1 JUST for the armor, is it possible?

5. If im pure int wizard and i wear warrior armor is my attack (magic stuff) less good?


Trading: The level of your trade depends on how much money you put into it (amount and quality of goods). In return you make more profit upon successful completion.

4. Euro armor is dependend on your mastery level not on your character level. If you raise your warrior mastery to one, your wizzard can only wear what a level one warrior can wear, regardeless of his own level.

5. Heavier armor: Slower movement speed, higher mana usage.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:23 pm
by ryuko2121
for trading, i mean, do you get more profit if you have a higher level of trading. (levels as in Begginner and all that).

So, if I wear heavier armor as a wizard, my wizard damage WONT be less high?

Okay, you helped alot Ill wait for other people to answer my other questions!

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:51 pm
by DeShin
ryuko2121 wrote:For number 2.
Say you just got a level up....Can you raise one mastery levels in wizard and... one mastery in.... bard???
Yes of course, in fact I already said it in my previous post. There are maximum of TWO available masteries level once your character is leveled up. Press S on your keyboard, select Wizard, press the "Level Up" button, do the same things to Bard, it works too.

ryuko2121 wrote:Say you just got another level up....Can you raise two mastery levels in wizard?
Masteries level only works same with your character level. Example character level 32, masteries level max you can go is level 32 as well, even though you have extra SP or extra masteries level left-over.

ryuko2121 wrote:For number 4.
I mean like... so hard to explain -.-, can you raise fire first or is it like chinese characters where you need a certain levels for each skill book?
You can raise any of the skills in wizard skilltree provided that it is unlock. How to unlock it, is through upping the masteries level. The system is same as chinese.


ryuko2121 wrote:1. SP farming is when you have a gap between your HIGHEST MASTERY LEVEL and your CHARACTER LEVEL???

Yes. I will say it as CURRENT highest mastery level and your CURRENT character level.

ryuko2121 wrote:2. an SP farming gap should only go as high as 9???
Yes it is.

ryuko2121 wrote:3. Pure - Int wizard does the most damage???
YES.

ryuko2121 wrote:4. What is the best job for a Pure - Int wizard?
Thieves, because of their damage is high.

ryuko2121 wrote:5. Are pure - int wizards good merchanters?

No, because traders are those who can able to tank, meaning with higher def. On the other hand, wizard good at damaging, so it is not worth it to be a trader in this case.

ryuko2121 wrote:6. What is the difference between being a low star trader or high star? do u get more money when you are high star??
When it is in low star, it is said to be a safe journey as in not worry about any high level player thieves to kill it, the only thing is the NPC thieves will spawn and attack your carrier.

On the other hand, been a high star trading meaning both NPC thieves and player thieves are able to attack you or your carrier.

ryuko2121 wrote:7. Name characteristics of every europeian mastery. (include if it is good in pvp, pve, its best job, its worst job, damage, and any other characteristic.)

Wizard is a magic-based caster that is able to hold staff as their main weapon. Which when it comes to a caster, it means to be a nuker-like attacker/damage dealer, so as you know nuker is said to be a high damage dealer that are able to kill the monster from afar and doing the highest damage ever without caring much about defense and armor. So you can expect much of lowest phy defense and what’s more the earliest to die in a battle and the worst part as in the pot delay nightmare of Europeans. Wizard or as in other game, we called it as elementalist or sorcerer whereby wiz are able to cast elements of their attacking, such as fire element attack, cold element, lightning element and earth element. So the good side of this character is that it is based on elements to be run effectively as in you are able to burn the monster from fire element, able to freeze or frostbite the monster from the cold element and such.

Good in PvP: 50:50. I will say yes in the sense where you are able to kill it with a blaster (using earth element skills). I will say no in the sense of the defense is super low and hp also super low as well, so you expect to die fast if you are a slow caster or having connection lag.

Good in PvE: 50:50 as well. You are doing highest damage but defense and hp is low and the pot delay nighmare will make you to quit wizard.

Best job: Thieves.

Worst Job: Trader.

I won't answer other characters because I know that you are only interested in wizard that is damage dealer. And pointless of asking the question like that.

ryuko2121 wrote:SInce every level you can add +2 mastery levels, if you are level 1 and you have 2 sp, then you can only add +1 mastery level right? So, if you level up again until level 3, can you add +3 mastery levels or still only 2?
Can you understand simply english? or you are uneducated? Oh okok I know that. Let me repeat again, that every level up of your character, you are given TWO skill masteries level. Then your next level up, you have FOUR masteries level, next level up, you have SIX masteries level and so on, basically it is just going to accumulate the free masteries level points if you are not distributed to the skilltree. Just press S, you'll see the masteries level, some sort of 28/30 whereby in this case you only have TWO free masteries level point to be distributed, like 10/25, so you will have a FIFTHTEEN free masteries level points and so on. So what to do with all those free skill points? Well distribute it when it is available.

ryuko2121 wrote:4. If im pure int wizzard and i get warrior lvl 1 JUST for the armor, is it possible?
In this case, YES, however you can only wear the armor at level 1, anything that is above that shall be red-coloured restriction.

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:55 pm
by DeShin
ryuko2121 wrote:So, if I wear heavier armor as a wizard, my wizard damage WONT be less high?
Type of armor doesn't affect the damage it makes from the wiz nuke. I think you have play chinese, you should understand far better than me, isn't it. Ya go ahead and wear a heavy armor for your wizard.

P/S: I would suggest you to do a deep research first, seeing back those old topics, collect info from other forums/website, asking your in-game friends, asking your guildmates, asking your real-life friend and such. Because it is totally pointless to ask the same question we have been discussing, I know that you are new to Euro, but there are people already discuss such topic like that, do a whole research, use that search button, type there Wizard.

This is not a face-to-face discussion, this is just a forum, we cannot answer you every questions that you ask. If you really really want to know more about Euros character or even your wizard, how's damage, how's defense, how's armor-wearing, how's jobbing and such, just use the search function.

See, when I typed in "Wizard" in search function, I can able to find these useful information for you to decide about euros and wizard.

- EPG - Euro Party Guide
- Wizard clothing
- WIZARDS in here
- wizzard
- euro builds

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:39 am
by ryuko2121
The questions (again:)

1.Name characteristics of every europeian mastery EXEPT for wizard because DeShin answered that one). (include if it is good in pvp, pve, its best job, its worst job, damage, How high HP is, how high MP is, What WEAPON the mastery uses, what ARMOR the mastery uses, and any other characteristic.)

2. Since pure int wizards are bad at trading, what do theives and hunters do? Is theiving hard? If it's too hard can i still trade or are wizards just TOO bad? How do hunters get money?

3. Euro characters do more damage than chinese characters?

4. If you have a party do you get less SP? less EXP?

5. What type of robe should wizards wear (IF wizards DO wear robes :? )

6. Do shields make wizards weaker?

7. What kind of staff should pure int wizzies use?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:35 am
by DeShin
ryuko2121 wrote:1.Name characteristics of every europeian mastery EXEPT for wizard because DeShin answered that one). (include if it is good in pvp, pve, its best job, its worst job, damage, How high HP is, how high MP is, and any other characteristic.)

Lol, no one will answer your question if it is not direct and obviously not going to bring any good information about playing euro, because first, you can try at your own, thus you can believe more in yourself rather than estimate or underestimate other people suggestion.

Is the same thing I ask you "what is online game?" or "what are the characteristic of online game?" or "what is the goods and bads of online game?" You cannot answer me correctly because these type of questions are consider wide-opinion, not all the people having the same ideas and suggestions.

ryuko2121 wrote:Since pure int wizards are bad at trading, what do theives and hunters do? Is theiving hard? If it's too hard can i still trade or are wizards just TOO bad? How do hunters get money?

You have to understand that wizard is good at doing damage/doing huge nuke element damage thus their defense is tremendously low. So when the defense is low, you cannot accept or taken damage by monsters more often or else you will die easily, morever wizard is a pure INT build character whereby the hp (health) is low. Wizard can become trader, but it is easy to get die in a trade run due to the fact that I mention just now, def and hp low. What's more in higher level where people can 1 hit ko your carrier and drops all the items.

ryuko2121 wrote:3. Euro characters do more damage than chinesecharacters?

All euro characters are made to be 50:50 balance. It means wizard doing huge awesome damage, but having super-duper and lousy defense low and their hp is dam super-duper low. And 1 handed sword shield doing less damage but having defense high, so can survive longer in a battle.

In the born of magicians in euro characters, I will say yes, in terms of more damage dealer, and some constant damage skill such as cleric.

ryuko2121 wrote:4. If you have a party do you get less SP? less EXP?

More SP thus more EXP, for euro.

ryuko2121 wrote:5. What type of robe should wizards wear (IF wizards DO wear robes :Confused )

For your information, there are only one robe to be wear by wizard. Lol, such a nice lunatic question.

ryuko2121 wrote:6. Do shields make wizards weaker?

No.

ryuko2121 wrote:7. What kind of staff should pure int wizzies use?
That's a staff.

COME COME, MORE LUNATIC QUESTION PLS ... I LIKE THE WAY U ASKING. U ASK STUPID QUESTION, I GIVE U STUPID ANSWER, EASY AS THAT. WANT CHALLENGE ME, THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU STRIVE.