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who say pure str glavie the highest dmg in game ?

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:41 am
by kwfreedom
all say pure str are the most highest dmg in chinese .but i find out that hybrid make more dmg than pure str.!!!

example.
glavie sss..
pure str do 2k++
hybrid do 4k++

wtf ? i think hybrid more geng........

so should i go hybrid? give some opinion...

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 3:12 pm
by NuclearSilo
not me

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:28 pm
by MaRcG
Str hybrid FTW, thanks to ice shield the pwn

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:31 pm
by user
NuclearSilo wrote:not me

+1

i bet the TS just misread a post here and there

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:32 pm
by boast
pure int spear does the most damage...

Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2007 4:33 pm
by justaskphil
No, what was probably said was that pure str has some of the best CRIT damage in the game. Their normal damage is lowest of the 3 most popular builds. Hybrids have higher overall damage vs. pure str, and pure int has highest overall damage.

Go with the build that you are most interested in playing - every build has its bonuses and drawbacks...check out search for the different guides for each build and take it from there.

GL :D

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:42 am
by kwfreedom
this mean that pure str glavie is depent on luck ? (cri atk)

then hybrid spear is the most strong in game lor ?

can nuke can tank and high dmg......

thanks for u all i will make a hybrid spear....

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:51 am
by nphillip
how can i hybrid do more damage than a PURE str?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:27 am
by kwfreedom
mag balance high then u dmg is high when using imbue.....but u cri will not high just add only a bit dmg....


any can tell me what hybrid str mean ? 2 str 1 int ?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:33 pm
by Ningyotsukai-san
kwfreedom wrote:mag balance high then u dmg is high when using imbue.....but u cri will not high just add only a bit dmg....


any can tell me what hybrid str mean ? 2 str 1 int ?


Str hybrid is basically hybrid (obvious) but with more str than int...

like you said..they can be 2:1 str:int and others as well

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:46 pm
by Poochu
pure str arent highest damage.

but to whomever was talking about hybrids.

im an int hybrid, and we dont do the highest damage, but we do okay damage with nukes and weapons, which is what separates us from pure ints.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:27 pm
by IceCrash
Poochu wrote:pure str arent highest damage.

but to whomever was talking about hybrids.

im an int hybrid, and we dont do the highest damage, but we do okay damage with nukes and weapons, which is what separates us from pure ints.


we are the ones that at lvl 64 do 5.5k+ nukes and can tank two glaivers on us=1337NESS
+ the awsome kd, pwanage

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:29 pm
by Tribe_Rock
pure int spear do highest normal dmg in game
pure str glavie do highest crit dmg in game and the highest dmg ever can be reach
hybrid str do higher dmg than pure str (normal dmg) but do less crit dmg

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:10 am
by HertogJan
Tribe_Rock wrote:pure int spear do highest normal dmg in game
pure str glavie do highest crit dmg in game and the highest dmg ever can be reach
hybrid str do higher dmg than pure str (normal dmg) but do less crit dmg


uhm lol,
Youre right on the spear thingy.
However a bower will out damage a glavier on a crit with ease and it allready is a fact that hybrid bows crit as hard or maybe harder then pure str bows..

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 2:59 pm
by Tribe_Rock
HertogJan wrote:
Tribe_Rock wrote:pure int spear do highest normal dmg in game
pure str glavie do highest crit dmg in game and the highest dmg ever can be reach
hybrid str do higher dmg than pure str (normal dmg) but do less crit dmg


uhm lol,
Youre right on the spear thingy.
However a bower will out damage a glavier on a crit with ease and it allready is a fact that hybrid bows crit as hard or maybe harder then pure str bows..


u r wrong
hybrid str has less physical attack than pure one which mean they crit less than pure cos critical = double physical attack

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:16 pm
by HertogJan
No its not, that was believed for a long time. But there are other factors involved also.

Just check the highest damage contest on this forum, hybrid bows crit harder or just as hard as pure str bows.
However the bow is more of a hybrid weapon then a glavie so I dont know if that also counts for glavie users.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:28 pm
by Tribe_Rock
HertogJan wrote:No its not, that was believed for a long time. But there are other factors involved also.

Just check the highest damage contest on this forum, hybrid bows crit harder or just as hard as pure str bows.
However the bow is more of a hybrid weapon then a glavie so I dont know if that also counts for glavie users.

what`s the factors ??
my factors
critical =2x normal dmg
pure str users have physical attack higher than hybrid str
then they crit more of a hybrid

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:39 pm
by F-22
Hybrid spearman do the most average damage
pure str glavier do the highest crit damage
pure str bowman do high crits multiple times
hybrid bowman do good crits multiple times and good average damage
pure int spearman do the most single damge
pure str blader do least damage but good defense and hp
pure int s/s do high damge and good defense
hybird s/s do average damage overall and good defense

It does not matter what build you are, your offense and defense depend on your defensive clothes and weapons. If you play smart you will win!!!

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:05 pm
by HertogJan
Again I dont see where you get the info from that a glavier will crit harder then a bower :S

I dont know the excact factor but its not just 2 times normal damage.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:43 pm
by tomiotar
Tribe_Rock wrote:
HertogJan wrote:No its not, that was believed for a long time. But there are other factors involved also.

Just check the highest damage contest on this forum, hybrid bows crit harder or just as hard as pure str bows.
However the bow is more of a hybrid weapon then a glavie so I dont know if that also counts for glavie users.

what`s the factors ??
my factors
critical =2x normal dmg
pure str users have physical attack higher than hybrid str
then they crit more of a hybrid



The factor that are involved are reinforcement of the weapons and the physical and magical balance that affect phys and mag damage respectively. Critical is not 2x normal damage and that is a fact for chinesse chars using imbue. That is generally accepted is critical double just physical damage but until now there is no formula that has shown to be correct at the time of calculate the damage. When you go hybrid you loose phys dmg but you win on mag dmg and looking at damage contest on this forum it look like that increment is enough to compensate the lost on phys dmg.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:35 pm
by Stress
STR hybrid glaive will NOT crit harder then pure STR.

It only goes with bow because of it's good attack values in both physical and magical attack.

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:47 pm
by IceCrash
[SD]Stress wrote:STR hybrid glaive will NOT crit harder then pure STR.

It only goes with bow because of it's good attack values in both physical and magical attack.


yep, i agree