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As title says, I'm level 30 on my Dual-Axe Warrior and I'm beginning to notice the ill-effects of not leaving gap levels. When I started, I figured I would be ok since I heard Euro classes don't need to SP farm, but I guess that was incorrect speculation.

I need 140k total SP for all Dual-Axe skills & Rogue tree skills up until level 60 (both Crossbow & Dagger), and so I assume I'll need to farm around 100k SP since you get around 40k from levelling 1 > 60 with 0 gap.

So now the background info is out the way, a few queries/points I'd like people's help with/opinions on.

1. Is it worth the effort to farm 100k SP or don't I need to max every single Rogue skill? I know there are usual ones and crappy ones, but since Euro is relatively new, I have no idea which are good or bad.

2. If I was to remain pure dual axe warrior, I could max all Warrior skills & Dual Axe Passives/Skills with just 60k SP (actually 56k, but the extra 4k could be dumped into res/heal etc if I avoided the Rogue route).

3. Someone please help me with a build plan, I'm terrible at character planning evidently, so if anyone wants to take charge for me then please, feel free.

Also, please bear in mind that I don't have GT or SPT... so this task would be a really difficult one for me if undertaken.

1. In terms of playing style, why not. Somemore it is far more better than chinese farming. But think again, if you going for two weapons, you must first able to afford weapons as well especially if you need to buy two 8th degree weapons, what's more on SOS thingie.

2. Well reflect to ques 1, if you can afford two weapons, then make your character into two-weapon build aren't a big problem here. And with the number you mentioned - 60k sp, mean needless to worry about level gapping in this case.

3. What other people do is they concentrate on their main skilltree as well as the subs, for example the cleric skilltree, the bard skilltree (taking their buff for instance). Well since Euro are meant to be "party" that's mean every class has its own identity here.

lol i have 2h + full rouge hell of alot SP so i am in the same boat
HElP lol if i use 5 gap will i have enough SP or just quit worrior?

You have a point there... the expenses will be high, might be forced to take up Trading soon.

After many opinions, I'm leaning heavily towards sticking to just Dual Axe Warrior unless I win some kind of SRO lottery of both SP & Gold.

But I'd still like opinions from people, so keep them coming please.

Just did a couple of calculations, and if I gap from 30 to 39, increasing the gap by 1 each time I level up, I will have saved over 30k SP.

If I could find a way to level in this way, maybe being PL'd then all would be fine, but unfortunately I chose Odin where there's like no level 80s.

Yea, check out Greece, euro high levelers there.

Btw I suggest you might want to have sub class, taking those useful buff is easy which "might" help you in training. Once again Euro are meant to be party, that's it.

When consider your sub class, look carefully for the Required Item and Used Item. Otherwise you will need to delevel. "Required Item" are those you will not get the effect after switching back main weapon.

DeShin wrote:Yea, check out Greece, euro high levelers there.

Btw I suggest you might want to have sub class, taking those useful buff is easy which "might" help you in training. Once again Euro are meant to be party, that's it.

When consider your sub class, look carefully for the Required Item and Used Item. Otherwise you will need to delevel. "Required Item" are those you will not get the effect after switching back main weapon.

That is false. The bard buff for speed requires a harp, however once you switch back to whatever you use normally, it still transfers. So does the bard skill that is like a protective circle which also requires a harp.

I know because I am a 2 handed warrior and use them constantly.

PuppyPumper wrote:

DeShin wrote:Yea, check out Greece, euro high levelers there.

Btw I suggest you might want to have sub class, taking those useful buff is easy which "might" help you in training. Once again Euro are meant to be party, that's it.

When consider your sub class, look carefully for the Required Item and Used Item. Otherwise you will need to delevel. "Required Item" are those you will not get the effect after switching back main weapon.

That is false. The bard buff for speed requires a harp, however once you switch back to whatever you use normally, it still transfers. So does the bard skill that is like a protective circle which also requires a harp.

I know because I am a 2 handed warrior and use them constantly.

Actually it's correct. Required item means you must still have the item equipped for the buff to carry over, suh as a cleric's int/str buffs. Moving March/Noise DO carry over because it is only a used item skill.

And to the OP, SP farming isnt required in euro if you only take one class.

oh crap, ive been keeping a 0 gap

1.why the hell did u do 0 gap
2.140ksp is easy as to get at that lvl

A full STR Warrior/Rogue build can use the largest range of weapons in the game (5 in total). This is what I intend to do - eventually - after I'm done with my 1 handed warrior and begin farming at 70+.

Personally I don't see the point with daggers if you already have dual axes.
On the other hand, crossbow gets handy and a good complement to warrior: it adds range while still being str-based.
That's the plan in my case anyway, axe/x-bow

You're probably right, not sure if I'll be getting dagger skills yet.

PuppyPumper wrote:
That is false. The bard buff for speed requires a harp, however once you switch back to whatever you use normally, it still transfers. So does the bard skill that is like a protective circle which also requires a harp.

I know because I am a 2 handed warrior and use them constantly.

Lol that was what my meaning actually, I think you do not understand what I'm trying to say.

Let me emphasize again: "Required Item" are those you will not get the effect after switching back main weapon. (see the word "after switching back main weapon"?)

Only those that said "Used Item" will stay even though you switch back to any weapons that is exist in SRO for europe characters.

And I know too as well, I have sub-bard with me.

Is it really only 40k sp u gain with 0 lvl gap?

Ive seen other guides that say u get around 135,000 from 1-80, so if u push a bit more it seems that you wouldnt have to farm much at all.

plus you probably will have to farm a lot if u want to max both ur main and sub classes.

This site has a couple great links for char planning. It is incomplete, but at least it will provide some idea of what your char needs.

http://tinyurl.com/3clr7x

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Im not leveling so much my cleric sub class. then i dont need some much sp.
Warrior mastery 35 and cleric 25.

Jhoo wrote:Is it really only 40k sp u gain with 0 lvl gap?

Ive seen other guides that say u get around 135,000 from 1-80, so if u push a bit more it seems that you wouldnt have to farm much at all.

plus you probably will have to farm a lot if u want to max both ur main and sub classes.

You only gain 40k SP from 1 - 60, according to the SP table I used, I didn't mention 1 - 80.

DeShin wrote:

PuppyPumper wrote:
That is false. The bard buff for speed requires a harp, however once you switch back to whatever you use normally, it still transfers. So does the bard skill that is like a protective circle which also requires a harp.

I know because I am a 2 handed warrior and use them constantly.

Lol that was what my meaning actually, I think you do not understand what I'm trying to say.

Let me emphasize again: "Required Item" are those you will not get the effect after switching back main weapon. (see the word "after switching back main weapon"?)

Only those that said "Used Item" will stay even though you switch back to any weapons that is exist in SRO for europe characters.

And I know too as well, I have sub-bard with me.

Sup dude,

Im making a xbow sub-bard just like you.I'm lvl 34 with gap 0.

Do I need to farm? In rogue tree I lvling only xbow/poison/stealth/monster skills and in bard tree only moving march and noise.

Another doubt, the "USED ITEM" skills of bard are only Moving March and Noise ?

my 2h sword is quite cool right now.. only lv 27, but 0gap all the way, and bard submastery @ 20 for the moving march and noise skill, and im all maxed.. i will stop 0gapping as soon as i need to, but i dont think it'll happen too soon. just refrain from adding senseless skills .. my submastery didnt take more than 1k sp. and i wont raise it over 50 at all.

i wouldnt go dual, so much sp for nothing.. just get into yourself and decide whats your playing style, and decide for a weapon. get a submastery, et voilá, your done.

nimitz wrote:
Sup dude,

Im making a xbow sub-bard just like you.I'm lvl 34 with gap 0.

Do I need to farm? In rogue tree I lvling only xbow/poison/stealth/monster skills and in bard tree only moving march and noise.

Another doubt, the "USED ITEM" skills of bard are only Moving March and Noise ?

Hii

For farming, mostly yes, cause you will not only max for crossbow tree but also for bard tree, depends on your preference.

Sry went off-topic, suggest create new topic for that.