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Which would you prefer?

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:13 am
by teno123
I was thinking something for a hybrid or a full int


I was thinking

s/s = 80 bicheon 80 light 80 cold 60 fire

s/s = 80 bicheon 80 light 80 cold 60 hesukal

spear = 80 heskual 80 light 80 cold 60 bicheon

spear = 80 heskual 80 lightning 80 cold 60 fire?



i dont know what to choose.


if im s/s i do weaker dmg. but can take more hits + with that mana shield thing. i could take more hits. i choose fire for some of the shield effects ( i dont knwo waht they do but.. + the phy dmg %

or even heskual because i get hp + the bloody fan series gives me magical def.

and for spear i dont know i'd just die quicker and stuff..

if i choose bicheon so i could just use a shield and take some more hits and use some of the bichon skills to ehahnce it a bit more

or if i take fire i could get more physical def or something

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:17 am
by CobbZ
How about this.

You dont want 50% taking off, thats too much. (mana shield)

So get 80 bich, 80 light, 79 cold, and 61 fire.

79 cold allows the phy def buff to be maxed and 61 fire gives the mag defense. From 59 to 61 it just about 50 mag def.



For spear, 80 heuksal, 80 light, 79 cold, 61 fire.

:D

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 9:39 pm
by flexo
CobbZ wrote:How about this.

You dont want 50% taking off, thats too much. (mana shield)

So get 80 bich, 80 light, 79 cold, and 61 fire.

79 cold allows the phy def buff to be maxed and 61 fire gives the mag defense. From 59 to 61 it just about 50 mag def.



For spear, 80 heuksal, 80 light, 79 cold, 61 fire.

:D


yeah was thinking about the 50% mana shield. It's a lot even for a pure INT even with the high mp or maybe especially for a pure INT since nukes eat mp like crazy.

But how much % is it at lvl 79 or any idea's on how much % would be a nice one to stick too. And why?

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:05 pm
by ALLOVER
man...take only one weapon and force skill...:)
when lv cap raise up to 150 u cant have all at max :)

Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:01 pm
by DeathBeforeDishonor
ALLOVER wrote:man...take only one weapon and force skill...:)
when lv cap raise up to 150 u cant have all at max :)


i wouldnt even consider 150 cap probly like 3 years away lol....i would build for the 90 cap, probly is still wile away but who knows

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 12:02 am
by teno123
well i dont know..


because if i go spear i could do alot of dmg and with mana shiled i could take some dmg. + i could switch to a shield.

but if im s/s i could already tank much + mana shield and i could always use kd+stab even tho i dont know what it is :) but i hear its weak since its phy dmg. but yea... with s/s its weaker dmg..

and if im spear i dontknow how much the shield helps.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 2:26 am
by ALLOVER
TehUrbanNinja wrote:
ALLOVER wrote:man...take only one weapon and force skill...:)
when lv cap raise up to 150 u cant have all at max :)


i wouldnt even consider 150 cap probly like 3 years away lol....i would build for the 90 cap, probly is still wile away but who knows


hehehe ^^ we will see :D

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:47 pm
by flexo
teno123 wrote:well i dont know..


because if i go spear i could do alot of dmg and with mana shiled i could take some dmg. + i could switch to a shield.

but if im s/s i could already tank much + mana shield and i could always use kd+stab even tho i dont know what it is :) but i hear its weak since its phy dmg. but yea... with s/s its weaker dmg..

and if im spear i dontknow how much the shield helps.


the shield helps a lot.. you got the extra def wich is a lot, the block to completly block a attack and on top of that you got the shield technique series for a lot of extra phy def for 15sec. And you got KD, shield makes so much diffrence.


KD= knockdown, allows you to hit the enemy so he falls down on his back.
While he's down he can't attack you and you got another skill (the stab) to hit him while he's down.
So you do dmg and you can pot your hp back to 100%. It are 2 great series.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 9:24 pm
by teno123
i see cool info :)



what about if your a spear user and you just pop a shield on? does it help at all? alot?

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:28 pm
by Centaure
flexo wrote:
yeah was thinking about the 50% mana shield. It's a lot even for a pure INT even with the high mp or maybe especially for a pure INT since nukes eat mp like crazy.


You don't die if your MP bar goes empty, and you can always pot on some vigor as a back up since they work independantly from MP and HP pots.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:27 am
by teno123
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rawrr


i can't chooose!!


lets see because i mean...


s/s you have alot of def nad stuff and that helps taking up more dmg. + with mana shield it should help even more. + with the KD + stab you could even nuke :) you do weaker dmg tho..


and with

spear... you do crap loads more dmg... and with mana shield it could help a bit. but when putting a shield on help much? alot or very little? as a shield user

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:30 am
by boast
go light 100, ice 100, fire 100

no weapon

:)

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:08 am
by flexo
Centaure wrote:
flexo wrote:
yeah was thinking about the 50% mana shield. It's a lot even for a pure INT even with the high mp or maybe especially for a pure INT since nukes eat mp like crazy.


You don't die if your MP bar goes empty, and you can always pot on some vigor as a back up since they work independantly from MP and HP pots.


yeah i know all that :)
I was just wondering about the right % of mana shield that would make the chance of mp-drain(without vigor) as low as possible and still give the maximum extra def.
But I guess i'll look into it myself someday. Make a guess on that.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:53 pm
by glavie
Techno If you aren't going to farm 200k+ sp then forget about taking all those skills. Just concentrate on weapon and force. And then a sub tree IF you have sp left over.

I would suggest weapon+light as your main if you consider grasswalk to be important like I do. And then what ever else you want as a sub tree. Remember your imbue is most important so you need to keep it as your main tree. Weapon is necessary for pvp mainly, so if you don't cape or job that much you could let it slide if you want to work on another force tree like ice for the snow shield.

Just start leveling once you are 30+ you will start to get a feel for what skills are important to you. Since you are a nuker you will be able to farm sp(what you need to buy skills) at basically any level with relative ease.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:39 pm
by teno123
Teno? Techno? haha :) hehe anyways


im already farming but thats because i havnt made my choice and ill continue to farm till w/e. lvls :)