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Pure int with cold imbue
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:16 pm
by Fizle_NL
Im thinking of pure int spear build with: heuksal/cold/lightning and no fire.
Cuz cold is most anyoing thing in pvp and job pvp i think this would be nice. And you get mana shield and more phs defnece.
Or should i go heuksal fire lighnting? Screw ice and the mana shield
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 12:10 am
by mister
im workin on the same build but goin hybrid heuksal/cold/lightning u need just 2 make a choice u want dam(fire\lighting) or u want def(cold\lighting) most ppl would tell u 2 go s\s because of the shield begin able 2 block which is better 4 pure int but here a link that should help u wen makin ur choice
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=19902
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:35 am
by alZen
level up with light and get cold imbue later ... provided they fix effects immunity.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 3:54 am
by meep
You can take fire, ice, light and heuksal, you know. 80/80/80/60 or some other combo.
Getting ice imbue is a bad idea, especially at this cap. Why? Less damage and pretty much everyone is immune. So not only will you do a good amount less damage than everyone around you, you won't even have a status effect to go with it. As for ice for mana shield and physical defense buff, it isn't 100% required but it is a nice addition to any nuker. Those 3 skills (mana shield, ice guard, and the passive) are really the only skills worth getting as a nuker from the ice tree since that tree is considerably weaker than fire or even lightning.
Of course a decent ice/light/spear nuker is possible, but you are giving up a lot of damage with a build like that since fire nukes do the most damage.
Don't pick your trees based on possible defense alone, nukers will never be a tanker. The whole point of a nuker is high damage -- not to tickle your enemies while you take one more hit before you kiss the dirt. Nukers will die in PVP no matter what you do skill-wise unless you kill the other person first. The only way to be a "tank" with a nuker is amazing gear.
If you want to really be "annoying" in PVP, go for max possible damage. It is far more annoying than any status effect.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:27 am
by Degrees
meep wrote:Getting ice imbue is a bad idea
I see the points you made after this comment but I think Ice imbue is very useful pre-60+. Using the ice imbue ofr PVE and a seperate imbue for PVP assuming Fizle chooses to participate in PVP. Also, I have found the ice imbue useful when thieving because if the trader is a level below which the ice immunity is possible it is a very annoying skill and can piss many people off to the point where they attempt to flee.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:32 am
by IguanaRampage
I don't recommend maxed ice imbue for what meep said. Especially for int---imbue is a huge part of your damage. Maybe lvl up the 1st book a bit.. thats all i do. Choose lightning or fire.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:44 am
by meep
Degrees wrote:meep wrote:Getting ice imbue is a bad idea
I see the points you made after this comment but I think Ice imbue is very useful pre-60+. Using the ice imbue ofr PVE and a seperate imbue for PVP assuming Fizle chooses to participate in PVP. Also, I have found the ice imbue useful when thieving because if the trader is a level below which the ice immunity is possible it is a very annoying skill and can piss many people off to the point where they attempt to flee.
Ice imbue is okay for str characters with chains pre-60, though not recommended. But for a nuker ... You basically one hit everything you train on and your own NPC thieves/hunters. Plus since you will be using nukes, a skill that hits once, your chances of inflicting the status effect are extremely low before you can kill.
All ice imbue does is lower your damage.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:06 am
by monkey289
you can level quickly if you only get lightning, and only lightning, and a bit of cold, I don't even think you need to farm, just have a 2/3 gap
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:00 am
by truez
monkey289 wrote:you can level quickly if you only get lightning, and only lightning, and a bit of cold, I don't even think you need to farm, just have a 2/3 gap
Well u forgot about how many times u die .. as Light has more range of attacks ...
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:54 am
by Fizle_NL
And the new ice nuke then? is it worth to take ice anyway. Cuz i read all the comments and im convinced to kill as fast as possible, with the highest amount of damage. But the new ice nuke. Is that worth it?
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:57 am
by Fizle_NL
And besides, with lightning you will attrack lots of mobs. And you cant tank as nuker..so lightning imbue isnt a good idea anyway. So then ill need to choose between cold and fire imbue. Perhaps i can take fire for the imbue and the nukes and some defense and passive. Lightning: walk speed, buffs, and passive and nuke. And cold for some defence and passive and imbue, for fun. And Heuksal for 2, 3 powerfull skills.
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:24 am
by alZen
strange that i have no problems leveling 90% mag balance hyrbrid mainly light, 0gap, wearing garments, some ice but no ice buffs. did i do something wrong? maybe cuz i'm using just regular npc items or from drops with no sox ...

Re: Pure int with cold imbue
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:16 am
by littleowner
I think that you must have Lighnting and fire for the nukes..
And Cold for the buffs, without ice nukes
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:42 am
by Fizle_NL
So no heuksal ?! that isnt a good option i think
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 12:45 am
by alZen
thinkers continue to think ...
lvl 55 spear/light/ice = 19/50/30 ... not enough sp for ice buffs (only passives and lvl 1 nuke). in garments, no soX. good enough to lvl. i'd be lying if i said this build can tank. but death is usually due to lags (the kind that even pure str are vulnerable too). apart from a few bad days, leveling's been a breeze. and obviously this build at this moment is meat in pvp, so i've not bought a cape yet ;P.
oh ... i'd be maxing cold and heuksal once the sp come in.