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Need help with build

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:46 pm
by Ganxta
Hi look my stats:
http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=statsyw0.jpg

Its not pure str right? And this build is not best @ pvp... what u think should i change to blader or bow to be better in pvp ?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:55 pm
by cin
nope ur not pure str. u put 38 points in int. that means you are a int hybrid..

idk man.. my thoughts go to bow on this one.. but swappin at 64.. man its hard.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:59 pm
by Ganxta
others?

swapping=farming?

i think hybrid int is then when i have more int than str

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:05 pm
by LadyOphelia
Not sure if thats your naked balance or not.. but definitely a hybrid. You'll need to add as much stamina and str to your equipment as possible.. yes its expensive but if you wanna be the best.. comes with a price :roll:

For weapon I suggest glavie, you'll get the heuksal passive for more hp.. definitely make sure you get the fanning spear buff for pvp against nukers. Not to mention it has the most physical attack power (if you can afford a decent weapon).

But since you are a high level already, if you've already got Bicheon lvl'd it's prolly easier to just keep it. Unless you have the silks to buy skill edits or the time and money for cursed hearts..

Don't go bow.. and as far as force goes.. Light and fire should be good. Good luck to ya.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:17 pm
by hitokiri
you are near a 2:1 hybrid but probably more STR.

As Ophelia said, Glavie would be a smart choice. Spear passive helps a lot to compensate for lost HP becoming Hybrid. You will do more damage with 80% of your moves then a Pure STR, but their crits will be stronger then yours which is only 20% of your attacks.

You need Fire to Maximize your Physical Damage and to Have a chance against Nukers you need your Magic Defense. Light will give you Magic Damage which will add on to your usual damage, Speed is always necessary, and Parry Ratio can cut down damage you take by quite a bit possibly giving you a chance in a fight.

As for Imbue. Well its still up to your preference. Fire does more damage, light comes in 2nd but not by much. Fire gives burn damage which Light lowers their parry increasing your overall damage while its in effect. Light also can splash which greately helps in aggroing for PvE. Its more whats your style. Probably going Fire will be good.

Re: Need help with build

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:46 pm
by glavie
Ganxta wrote:Hi look my stats:
http://img245.imageshack.us/my.php?image=statsyw0.jpg

Its not pure str right? And this build is not best @ pvp... what u think should i change to blader or bow to be better in pvp ?


Tell us more about your current build please. Weapon, forces etc.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:02 pm
by Ganxta
What about bow with protector?

ATM: glavie 63, light 38, cold 48, fire 45

Ok here my stats without gear:
http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stats2ms3.jpg

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:18 pm
by caseyd4
Bow with Prot is What I would Recommend Get Some Heavy Pimped Gear tho... Im lvl 38 and have V close to yuor Balance and Do alot of Hunting and make sure you get as much Int on the gear as possible... Everyone is going to flame at me now for saying this but this morning I managed to Kill a lvl 44 Thief Nuker mainly because of its Increase on my Mag Def, He Hit me twice then whipped out a spear and I 1 hit him :P... Strong Bow FTW... You will Need the the Buffs, Mag Def and Phy ATTK in Fire... also Mag Attk in Light and Ice obviously Phy Def as you'll want the new lvl skills later on in it.. But as a HYB you will poon when/if we get update with your reach on Strong Bow Skill adding to the Buff only person getting near you is Nuker and thats where you HYB comes in handy...... Oh dont Bother with fire Imbue either

BTW TOTALLY BIAS View 8)

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:20 pm
by glavie
Bow should do very well with your balances. Protector is a nice all around defense. You could also get away with garms pretty easily.

You need to focus on only 2 force trees. You are horribly under farmed and that alone will hurt you more then being hybrid.

Don't forget since the mana shield is coming out you have 2 routes to go either max fire for damage. Or max ice for defense. I am assuming you will want light for grass walk and the peircing force.

I suggest that if you are going to switch to bow then only raise your masteries to lvl 55. That way you are immediately set to farm with a 9 gap with your new lvl 64 bow.

Just a warning you will need about 50k sp just to go from a 9gap to 0gap, to raise the 3 masteries with all main skills.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:04 pm
by Ganxta
So i have to change to BOW... it should best if im hybrid str?

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 8:32 pm
by glavie
The bow lends itself to strength hybrid better than other weapons.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:07 pm
by William-CL
cin wrote:nope ur not pure str. u put 38 points in int. that means you are a int hybrid.
Sorry to correct you cin, but that's a STR hybrid. It would be INT hybrid if his INT was higher.


And i would go Bow with this.

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:20 pm
by IceCrash
Blackdragon6 wrote:
cin wrote:nope ur not pure str. u put 38 points in int. that means you are a int hybrid.
Sorry to correct you cin, but that's a STR hybrid. It would be INT hybrid if his INT was higher.


And i would go Bow with this.


same

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:21 pm
by cin
Blackdragon6 wrote:
cin wrote:nope ur not pure str. u put 38 points in int. that means you are a int hybrid.
Sorry to correct you cin, but that's a STR hybrid. It would be INT hybrid if his INT was higher.


And i would go Bow with this.

yea just read it. my bad.
i meant to type just "hybrid" lol

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:32 am
by Ganxta
Yep, i go for bow... thanks all.

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:03 pm
by sambo
Ganxta wrote:What about bow with protector?

ATM: glavie 63, light 38, cold 48, fire 45

Ok here my stats without gear:
http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stats2ms3.jpg



r u need to de-lvl the 63 lvls of glavie tp get bow.... i think that is a stupid choise :shock:

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:11 pm
by IceCrash
its never too late to change ur wep trust me :D
Curst hearts ftw i guess really ^_^
On my old char i changed like 6 times of wep and masteries lmao

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 1:41 pm
by Ganxta
Glavie mastery is 58 now :D and bow mastery 46 atm.

E: But i have 16 lvl's left it means 48 stats points... and i put all them to str??

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:00 pm
by Ganxta
But i have 16 lvl's left it means 48 stats points... and i put all them to str??

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:12 pm
by caseyd4
Yup Try get 90% str bal

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:36 pm
by Ganxta
But i heard that hybrid str sux... so i got 48 more stats point its enoght to reach 70/70 balance?

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:43 pm
by IceCrash
str hybrid archer DONT suk

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:45 pm
by Ganxta
but i dont know where to put those sp's... im confused.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:34 am
by Ganxta
Help

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:10 am
by Snappy
Bow Skills:

Max Anti-Devil

Max Combo

Max Beserk (Explosion Series)

Max Break Haven Passive (Range Increase)

Max Hawk Training (White and Blue, Skip Black)

Max Mind Concentration Passive

Only if you like to do PvP:

Strong Bow Max

Your are pretty much under farmed in terms of SP, I would pick Fire for main focus (imbue, magic prot an passive), sub Light (wind walk, concentration, passive) and perhaps skip Cold.

I would open a 5 gap at least to make up for the difference in SP for couple more level say to have bow skills/fire and light to lvl 59 for the necessary SP farm. Optional is to stick your skills at lvl 63 masteries and just open the gap till 9 levels at 72 for max SP farm, where you can get lvl 72 weapons.

If you are really short of SP, Bow and Fire, light for speed buffs.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:08 pm
by Ganxta
Thanks for skill guide but i need help with build guestion... where should i put all sp what i will have when i lvl up... str or int?

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:12 pm
by Disconn3cted
with those stats i think bow because it has the higher magic attack that would go well with your higher magic balance

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:23 pm
by glavie
You are using the word sp wrong i think. We are suggesting that you add all str points from now on. Yes you will be a str hybrid. Since bow can be hybrid you won't suck.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:54 pm
by caseyd4
Chuck them into Str until you get at least 85% str bal with clothes on, then add them as you feel your getting a more effective return this is not a common build ( Why I love it ) we do kick ass, but its very much a get to know the char build its going to take you a while to learn how to use it properly.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:33 pm
by Ganxta
Thanks! All going to str.