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mana shield- spear viable?
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:44 pm
by skulldiver
as a pure int,do you think spear is going to be a viable choice for pure ints again?
(im not saying spear sucked..it was just too fragile imo)
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:56 pm
by flexo
well my theory is that spear is gonna do great when the mana-shield is up. But you better kill all your enemies during that 2min else you'll be a dead man just like before. So then it's either run arround for a minute untill you can use the mana shield again. Or pray you get lucky on the stuns and kb's.
(Just my experience with pure int spear after lvl 56, i'm sure there are ppl out there that make their spear-build work great)
Personally i don't like my build to depends to much on luck or the protection from others. So i voted ...no.. but if you play it good. Then with the manashield it is easier let it work good then it was before.
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:04 pm
by Sekkaigan
flexo wrote:well my theory is that spear is gonna do great when the mana-shield is up. But you better kill all your enemies during that 2min else you'll be a dead man just like before. So then it's either run arround for a minute untill you can use the mana shield again. Or pray you get lucky on the stuns and kb's.
(Just my experience with pure int spear after lvl 56, i'm sure there are ppl out there that make their spear-build work great)
Personally i don't like my build to depends to much on luck or the protection from others. So i voted ...no.. but if you play it good. Then with the manashield it is easier let it work good then it was before.
+1 ... Pure str becomes a b**** at higher lvls; however, I voted yes because mana shield plus heuksal buffs might be a great combo... if they can work "together."
EDIT: Oh yea, Add HP to your gear

You basically have to at later lvls. mmm 50 or so
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:11 pm
by tomiotar
If I should consider started a new char now I will make it:
Pure int:
80 heuskal
80 light
80 ice
60 bicheon (for spam kd until the mana shield cooldown time is over)
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 6:05 pm
by dannyz
i still have no clue wat mana shield do. all i know is that mana shield is in the Ice force tree, and wats the diff between mana shield and castle shield
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:58 pm
by flexo
tomiotar wrote:If I should consider started a new char now I will make it:
Pure int:
80 heuskal
80 light
80 ice
60 bicheon (for spam kd until the mana shield cooldown time is over)
well just know that lvl 60 kd has a lower chance on knocking a lvl 80 down then a lvl 80 kd would.. way lower. Dunno the excact numbers but i wouldn't lay my life on the small chance that you might kd your opponent.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:46 am
by skulldiver
i think i'll delvl bicheon sometime and go with a
80 heuksal
80 lightning
70 fire
70 ice
or should i do 80 ice& 60 fire?
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:53 am
by tomiotar
flexo wrote:tomiotar wrote:If I should consider started a new char now I will make it:
Pure int:
80 heuskal
80 light
80 ice
60 bicheon (for spam kd until the mana shield cooldown time is over)
well just know that lvl 60 kd has a lower chance on knocking a lvl 80 down then a lvl 80 kd would.. way lower. Dunno the excact numbers but i wouldn't lay my life on the small chance that you might kd your opponent.
I dont think is that much lower. One of the most annoying thing during pvp is the classic noob that kd you when you phantom away of your oponent

. You can be easily kd by any of kd book, thats why are so difficult to fight s/s and bladers, when they are on troubles they just spam kd (even when they do almost no damage).
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:02 pm
by flexo
tomiotar wrote:flexo wrote:tomiotar wrote:If I should consider started a new char now I will make it:
Pure int:
80 heuskal
80 light
80 ice
60 bicheon (for spam kd until the mana shield cooldown time is over)
well just know that lvl 60 kd has a lower chance on knocking a lvl 80 down then a lvl 80 kd would.. way lower. Dunno the excact numbers but i wouldn't lay my life on the small chance that you might kd your opponent.
I dont think is that much lower. One of the most annoying thing during pvp is the classic noob that kd you when you phantom away of your oponent

. You can be easily kd by any of kd book, thats why are so difficult to fight s/s and bladers, when they are on troubles they just spam kd (even when they do almost no damage).
well i often got lvl 20's trying to kd me.. and they do like a 1 at 8 succes maybe even less. And a regular guy my own lvl does like a 1 at 3.
so well you'll prob do okay with it at 60 but not life saving imo.
@skulldiver:
i would go 80 ice since you'll need all the defense you can get. But 80 fire would be more offensive, i just think your dmg will be fine and that you better put those 20lvl's in ice.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:15 pm
by soxdrop
new soul spear comes in at lv 80 so you can spam stun pretty easely so i would take
heuksal 80
ice 80
light 80
fire 30 for immunity
pacheon 30 for high damage light nukes
you might wanan take 60 bicheon instead is you wanna survive for sure during that 1 minute since castle shield already gives -15 sec
but i am waiting the update to go for sure and not mess up anything, cause if this is not working then
bicheon 80
ice 80
light 80
heuksal 60
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:08 pm
by skyduck
I am level 80 pure int spear, for non-sun player, only glaiver can kill me with a double crit and I don't have any sun gears.
With the mana shield, not even glaiver can kill me.
If you play it right in PVP, right skill at the right time and keep the distance, pure int isn't really as bad as you might think.
Although I have to say with a spear, sometimes it is just a little too fragile.
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:37 pm
by borat2
the KD might not be that important but the castle series is
combining castle and mana shield would get crazy results
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:24 pm
by skulldiver
hmm...i think i might de-lvl my bicheon sometime.
but...ice is coming with the coming patch ,right?.
and you can already get the first skill from lvl 30,right?
im atm lvl 49(50%),and even though i know i won't make it,i want to be lvl 52 with the update
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 2:34 pm
by vanom
flexo wrote:well my theory is that spear is gonna do great when the mana-shield is up. But you better kill all your enemies during that 2min else you'll be a dead man just like before. So then it's either run arround for a minute untill you can use the mana shield again. Or pray you get lucky on the stuns and kb's.
so the mana shield only lasts 2 min and has a charge time of 1 min?
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 4:49 pm
by BuddahBless
How about ...
80 heuskal
80 light
80 fire
60 ice
I'm gonna try something like this. Because I still want my dmg and extra def of the mana shield. Who ever said the mana shield had to be maxed? =D
Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 6:34 pm
by soxdrop
just spam light nuke,soulspear 4th book,ghostspear or 3rdbook soulspear
you don't need fire nuke, it has smaller damage than the light nuke after the new skills
Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 12:57 am
by sronoob
i was thinking of just spamming light nuke and 3 lionshouts,
since i wanna stick with light +cold
however, i see that 3 shouts are slightly weaker than the fire nuke...
omgosh.. help
