Rogue: Daggers or Crossbow? + which sub?

dem0nhunter · Post by **dem0nhunter** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:13 pm

i cant decide between a rogue with daggers and a rogue with a crossbow
what submastery do u suggest and which skills exactly?
is dagger + crossbow a good and usefull build?

pls help
thx

Grim · Post by **Grim** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:56 pm

Umm, all skills in rogue,

And I would choose crossbow.

They freaking own with KB/ KD/ and stun

They kill almost everything in PvP videos that Ive seen, and they shoot freaking far.

Daggers are awsome also, its just that its close range, so the oppenant always has a chance to hit them, so they normally dead.

I would say a Crossbow Rogue/Healer Cleric. That way you can benefit in any party.

dem0nhunter · Post by **dem0nhunter** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:51 pm

any other suggestions?

Grim · Post by **Grim** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:08 pm

Or, you can try a new breed of Euro's with me.

Dual Wep. Euro:

Im going to try a Pure Str, 1 H Sword Warrior/Crossbow Rogue

I get all the cool skills of Rogue, with the Tanking capabilities of a Warrior.

I plan on using Crossbow from afar cause it owns, then switch to Sword and wreak havoc.

I'll even have godly defense so I should be able to do the Suicide skill with Rogue, and still survive while using Sword/Shield.

Ill see how it does, perhaps you could try a D-Dagger Rogue/Buff Bard.

That way you could benefit from the speed buffs, or even debuff your opponents and switch back to Daggers.

Depends upon how each character lives up to there strengths.

dem0nhunter · Post by **dem0nhunter** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:50 pm

whats better?
dagger + bard buffs
or
dagger + xbow
or
xbow + bard buffs

TwelveEleven · Post by **TwelveEleven** » Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:11 pm

Depends on what you want to do..

Imho the rogue is the 'all round' build of Euro.. They aren't the best, but aren't the worst either..

dem0nhunter · Post by **dem0nhunter** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 11:40 am

but what do you think is the best of the builds i mentioned?

†erminal · Post by **†erminal** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:04 pm

demon daggers and crossbow skills are both under the rogue tree

dem0nhunter · Post by **dem0nhunter** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 12:40 pm

†erminal wrote:demon daggers and crossbow skills are both under the rogue tree

i know
but they have diffenrent masteries
so my question was

:arrow:

dagger + which sub
or
crossbow + which sub
or
dagger AND crossbow
:banghead:

and whats better in PVP dagger or a crossbow?

fasd · Post by **fasd** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 1:09 pm

Look, rogue is the most stand-alone char at euro, making a rogue + something isn't very useful, my advice is to make:
-Full Rogue (crossbow/daggers), [If you don't want to farm]
-Rogue + Warrior
(both full str)

Making a rogue and bard/cleric/wizard/warlock may not be a wise decision because they are not powerful int chars, still fell free to try hybrids combinations =p

For pvp, never tried but for what i saw, daggers kill full int easily but they if they don't reach them your dead, crossbow can be the best for pvp, just a bit of luck in Knocking down and stuff like that.

Here are some youtube videos,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2inM7gKZG0c
->High lvl(88?) rogue daggers against Penons in berseker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHu_EBahw0o
-> (since 0:46 a rogue crossbow appears)

BryaN · Post by **BryaN** » Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:57 pm

I will choose Roque Crossbow and Bard/Cleric don't know what 1 I like most.