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I've only now begun to realize.... [Healer build inside]

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:33 pm
by Stress
...... how much potential this particular build has. It's aim it to maximize it's own AR, maximize it's own parry, and reduce enemy Parry, thus dealing almost peak damage, constantly. In addition to that, it is also a healer.

1) Basis:
a. A bow build -> Blue Hawk + Passive = 56 AR increase when maxed
b. Imbue: Thunder -> reduces enemy parry ratio. I can't figure out by how much, but it does.
c. Concentration + Thunder passive: Increases it's own parry ratio by 56 when maxed.
d. Force: Vital spot series and new upcoming ones are deadly: enemy AR decrease (by 71 when maxed), Enemy parry decrease (by 72 when maxed), Enemy magical/physical defence decrease (not been added yet. update is to come. Don't know any values yet.) Apart from that, you are also a healer, making you wanted in any guild.

2) Build: The build must be STR based in any case. Having force makes you a healer. Healers need to be able to survive. That's the reason for the STR based build Until now, at the 80 cap, there is possible to have a four mastery tree based build. At the 90 cap that will be hard to achieve. Until now, we have Pacheon, Thunder and Force. Thus we are left to choose between fire and cold.

People will come and say here: pure STR b0w3rs ar3 t3h pwnz0rs!!! etc.
But look at the damage contest. Highest damage goes to a hybrid STR bower. The balance is around 80% physical naked or 2:1 STR.
This is the hardest critting build in the game, and nobody can deny that. With great AR, making constant high non-crit hits and ultra-high crits, the build's only disadvantage is the lack of defence. But bear in mind: this is NOT a PvP intended build. Is the build the best at PvP? NO. Does it matter? NO.

However, firing from a protected place in a guild war, it can be very destructive over time.

As for the fourth tree:
Cold would be a nice choice, because of 97 physical defence increases + snow walls, novas etc. These things are handy and if the ice immunity is fixed, they might become useful. The mana shield will be semi-useful to the build too, as it packs some MP too.

Fire, on the other hand, is also useful with it's Magical Defense buff, Physical attack buff and passive.
The choice between fire and cold is yours. They are just as good IMO.


For the 90 cap, fire or cold gets dropped. Thunder, Force and Pacheon are maxed out and fire is left at level 30.
Now tell me your opinions :)


NOTE: 1)before you start flaming, ponder on it seriously. Read carefully before making any observations. If I was wrong somewhere, I will be happy to correct the mistake.
2) Props to EllisD for the build. I just processed everything from what I saw and thought. :)

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:41 pm
by IceCrash
tbh i didnt read everything BUT, i just wanted to tell you that after new skills, hybrid str builds wont work at all :/
Just wanted to say this

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:46 pm
by Rainigul
Interesting idea.
I like it, I don't understand why hybrid str bows won't work after update though... Although ultimately, all hybrids are screwed.

Is 1:2 str hybrid bow really highest critter in the game? my gold farmer right now is a 1:9 str to save money on mp pots, lol. Also more damage 8)

So, if 1:2 is better, I might do that, but imbue costs alot of mp, thus, more gold.

Anyways, good stuff.

Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:07 pm
by Mugen†
in my opnion this is very nice healer bow build it would be usefull for guild wars and jobs if u had char whit this build whit you probably bast in kombo whit blader. He tanks and protects and this one makes great dmg and HEALS<--now this is whats missing in blader nuker relationship becouse if blader somehow dies this guy can ress em before any1 can kill him( str are after all hard to kill :wink: )
Just a tougth but u could add whit which builds this one works best and it woudl give biger picture of potencial of this build
Anyhow this is,as already said, possibly best healer build ive seen my friend want to make healer and ill give him link to this guide GOOD WORK :D
btw
The choice between fire and cold is yours. They are just as good IMO.

this is as much true as it is anoying i hate that desidion :banghead:

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:14 am
by Nenhunter
Sample PVP situation:

To self: "Oh no! HP is low! Must heal
Select's Healing Hand
Out Loud: "Crap, I healed my opponent instead... :banghead:
Dies

I think it'll work great in a guild war imo.

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:16 am
by Stress
Thanks for the input.
Any other oppinions?

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:08 pm
by †erminal
I wish people would do it, but the problem is, no one wants to have the bitchy char :P

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 12:18 pm
by borat2
i consider a blade/bow pure str healer as my final char in china.
Only things that makes me not want to start it

1 The most important skill is bugged (vital spot right mouse click)
2 long grind and as a str without fire your need to go at least 2str1int or your damage will be low with the bow light force
3 you need time to heal and therefore should be able to take damage if you are not in a wall as bow you will get hurt hard.
4 the blade since that is in my opinion the only and best way to go as healer since you can knockdown and block and therefore have more time to heal is most effective but leveling a blader is just way too hard.

started my last sp farm after this i need to make up my mind, start an euro char or buy a som bow and sp farm at the den for couple months.
:roll:

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:50 pm
by darthsithius
the only reasonable build with force maxed IMO TBH is full int force light cold and low fire at 90 cap using s/s u can can figure out the rest were big kids.
for an str healer well it is a long shot . at the end i think it will just be gimp and not SUCH A HIGH criter cuz there the int gets all advantages of having high parry and AR.. gets to use the mana shield and nuke with force folowed by nukes and shok lions. also having a shield for bloks. of course using garments :)...

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 5:27 pm
by mister
well like ur bow build i have a lv 31 pure str blader lightin\fire\force it goin fine im also building a bowman which is on lv 18 i went all str using ice\lightini im goin 2 stop at lv 20 because im not sure wat im goin 2 go int or stay str i have a healer already idk should i make another one im thinkin of goin int but ill take ur build into thought


P.S Does bow int build suck ?????

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 7:51 pm
by thAi
Is it possible to get force on an int char or does it just not work well.

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 8:56 pm
by glavie
thAi wrote:Is it possible to get force on an int char or does it just not work well.


You can be an int healer, though it is not ideal. I know someone who is quite good as a hybrid int spear healer.

With the new job update, would you be able to job as a healer without an ID tag like what is done now?

I think your healer build is good, but doesn't it come down to the same question. Should I heal or should I vital spot. You can't do both. And vital spot doesn't last long enough. It also doesn't really do much unless you stack them, again taking time away from attacking or healing.
Any thoughts on this?

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 11:59 pm
by monkey289
I have str bow lvl 10 (so easy to start again, or change, nothings really added yet) with pacheon, lightning, ice, and force, though i might drop force to fire (force is only on lvl 5 atm)

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 12:14 am
by cin
it does look like a build that can work very well, but i think that if you really
want to make an effective healing character, you should wait for euro to be
added and try out a cleric ;).

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:42 am
by Stress
cin wrote:it does look like a build that can work very well, but i think that if you really
want to make an effective healing character, you should wait for euro to be
added and try out a cleric ;).


Erm... this is the chinese version of it. The cleric excels at everything there is about healing, and the chinese force character is no match for the euro healer.

Once again, props to EllisD for the concept.