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70:70 bow + nuking?
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:31 am
by Infstdraynor
Should I add nukes if I'm a 70:70 bow (int hybrid if I'm not mistaken)?
Are they damaging enough that I could assimilate them into my grinding routine?
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:05 am
by _Sir_Thalas_
I don't think that Nukes and Bow make a good combo, because bow has Phy attack of a spear and mag attack of a glavie (obvious that all of the same lv

)
Also 70:70 is almost like a 1:1 char, the main difference is that 70:70 has more mp, but I think that are not enough to be a good nuker.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:27 am
by [SD]TurnipTruck
_Sir_Thalas_ wrote:I don't think that Nukes and Bow make a good combo, because bow has Phy attack of a spear and mag attack of a glavie (obvious that all of the same lv

)
Also 70:70 is almost like a 1:1 char, the main difference is that 70:70 has more mp, but I think that are not enough to be a good nuker.
Actually, 70:70 is closest to 2:1 Int Hybrid.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:46 am
by Ell
If you want to nuke go spear. No point in having 2 ranged attacks except for fun.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:52 am
by _Sir_Thalas_
[SD]TurnipTruck wrote:_Sir_Thalas_ wrote:I don't think that Nukes and Bow make a good combo, because bow has Phy attack of a spear and mag attack of a glavie (obvious that all of the same lv

)
Also 70:70 is almost like a 1:1 char, the main difference is that 70:70 has more mp, but I think that are not enough to be a good nuker.
Actually, 70:70 is closest to 2:1 Int Hybrid.
ya, that's true, sorry man for the bad info..

Re: 70:70 bow + nuking?
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:00 am
by yamataka
Infstdraynor wrote:Should I add nukes if I'm a 70:70 bow (int hybrid if I'm not mistaken)?
Are they damaging enough that I could assimilate them into my grinding routine?
Int bow here ... and I mostly use nukes on giants and for jobs. Just for regular grinding the bow skills are better (unless I run out of arrows or get bored ... and then I nuke also).
So my guess would be that you don't need to add nukes ... a rotation of strong bow, anti devil, and multi arrow skills should work just fine.
You can add nukes at any time for fun and variety.
Re: 70:70 bow + nuking?
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 9:50 am
by MrFudge
yamataka wrote:Infstdraynor wrote:Should I add nukes if I'm a 70:70 bow (int hybrid if I'm not mistaken)?
Are they damaging enough that I could assimilate them into my grinding routine?
Int bow here ... and I mostly use nukes on giants and for jobs. Just for regular grinding the bow skills are better (unless I run out of arrows or get bored ... and then I nuke also).
So my guess would be that you don't need to add nukes ... a rotation of strong bow, anti devil, and multi arrow skills should work just fine.
You can add nukes at any time for fun and variety.
personally i never do strong bow unless i get a quick jump on someone jobbing.
that skill takes way too long right now and slows down grinding.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 12:45 pm
by glavie
You did look at my posts in the 70:70 noob build thread didn't you?
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:26 pm
by Infstdraynor
glavie wrote:You did look at my posts in the 70:70 noob build thread didn't you?
Lol, yes, in fact I did, I think you said something about using lit nukes for the AoE damage.
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:32 pm
by glavie
Infstdraynor wrote:glavie wrote:You did look at my posts in the 70:70 noob build thread didn't you?
Lol, yes, in fact I did, I think you said something about using lit nukes for the AoE damage.
If you look at the last page I have posted my grinding routine, and the average damage of my skills. Obviously my damage may be different from yours but the difference between skills should stay the same.
http://www.silkroadforums.com/viewtopic ... 343#568343
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 2:35 pm
by Infstdraynor
I guess then the strength of the lit nuke is comparable to that of Anti Devil.
Also on a side note here, I have 30 fire/lit, with all fire imbue, but haven't added any in lit imbue. Should I stop leveling fire, and go to cold as the new mana shield skill is going to come out?
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 6:54 pm
by glavie
Infstdraynor wrote:I guess then the strength of the lit nuke is comparable to that of Anti Devil.
Also on a side note here, I have 30 fire/lit, with all fire imbue, but haven't added any in lit imbue. Should I stop leveling fire, and go to cold as the new mana shield skill is going to come out?
I would wait for the new skills to come out, who knows the mana shield might suck.
Maybe you could continue as you are and just don't fill in any buffs in the fire tree, so you could delevel it easily if you need to.
Some people say that fire imbue is a lot stronger, others say it doesn't matter very much. I have never had it so I can't say. I can tell you that the difference between light and ice doesn't matter much at my level. Though higher the level the bigger the difference most likely.
Re: 70:70 bow + nuking?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:19 am
by yamataka
MrFudge wrote:yamataka wrote:Infstdraynor wrote:Should I add nukes if I'm a 70:70 bow (int hybrid if I'm not mistaken)?
Are they damaging enough that I could assimilate them into my grinding routine?
Int bow here ... and I mostly use nukes on giants and for jobs. Just for regular grinding the bow skills are better (unless I run out of arrows or get bored ... and then I nuke also).
So my guess would be that you don't need to add nukes ... a rotation of strong bow, anti devil, and multi arrow skills should work just fine.
You can add nukes at any time for fun and variety.
personally i never do strong bow unless i get a quick jump on someone jobbing.
that skill takes way too long right now and slows down grinding.
I think both strong bow and a nuke take 4 seconds to execute.
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:21 am
by shadowman20875
Not worth it, the medium magical damage and the fact that you'll hit higher with other bow skills at around the same time is a minus for nukes.
Re: 70:70 bow + nuking?
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:54 pm
by glavie
yamataka wrote:MrFudge wrote:yamataka wrote:Infstdraynor wrote:Should I add nukes if I'm a 70:70 bow (int hybrid if I'm not mistaken)?
Are they damaging enough that I could assimilate them into my grinding routine?
Int bow here ... and I mostly use nukes on giants and for jobs. Just for regular grinding the bow skills are better (unless I run out of arrows or get bored ... and then I nuke also).
So my guess would be that you don't need to add nukes ... a rotation of strong bow, anti devil, and multi arrow skills should work just fine.
You can add nukes at any time for fun and variety.
personally i never do strong bow unless i get a quick jump on someone jobbing.
that skill takes way too long right now and slows down grinding.
I think both strong bow and a nuke take 4 seconds to execute.
Mr Fudge. Strong bow does not slow down grinding if it allows you to use less skills to kill the mob.
Strong bow takes longer to execute then a lightning nuke, and I think longer than any nuke. (.5-1sec longer).
Shadowman, you didn't read my link above. It is not a mandatory skill, but a light nuke hits harder then antidevil. It is useful and worth it if you are maxing the lightning tree. Fire nuke book 2 might also be superior to autumn wind.