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need help on turning pure int into hybrid int

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:19 pm
by mac
I'm currently a pure int nuker lvl 41 with spear/fire/lighting/ice. i've seen some of lvl high int turn into a hybrid-int by adding str during lvl 70s. so i'm asking is it good or not for me to turn into hybrid-int by adding all stat in str for 10 lvl during lvl 70-80? will it really lower my mag percentage? will it lower my damage? and will i have abit of possibility to do high damage and tank mob/player at the same time? :?

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 3:23 pm
by CobbZ
To be honest, DONT do it.

In the next month or so, there will be a skills update, which includes a skill called mana shield.

The manashield is amazing. It lasts 2 minutes, and while on it takes a percentage of the damage hit and takes it away from your MP instead of HP.

So if the mana shield has a 50% level, and u get hit for 6000 damage, it takes 3000 from HP and 3000 from MP.

Thus giving the character virtual health.

Basically, dont go to hybrid. Just wait for the skills update. Keep levelling dude!! And you will need 5000 SP for the Manashield up to lvel 60.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:52 pm
by MrFudge
CobbZ wrote:To be honest, DONT do it.

In the next month or so, there will be a skills update, which includes a skill called mana shield.

The manashield is amazing. It lasts 2 minutes, and while on it takes a percentage of the damage hit and takes it away from your MP instead of HP.

So if the mana shield has a 50% level, and u get hit for 6000 damage, it takes 3000 from HP and 3000 from MP.

Thus giving the character virtual health.

Basically, dont go to hybrid. Just wait for the skills update. Keep levelling dude!! And you will need 5000 SP for the Manashield up to lvel 60.



and if he has 2,900 HP, he dies.
whereas if he's hybrid with 3,500 HP...he lives.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 8:54 pm
by shadowman20875
CobbZ wrote:To be honest, DONT do it.

In the next month or so, there will be a skills update, which includes a skill called mana shield.

The manashield is amazing. It lasts 2 minutes, and while on it takes a percentage of the damage hit and takes it away from your MP instead of HP.

So if the mana shield has a 50% level, and u get hit for 6000 damage, it takes 3000 from HP and 3000 from MP.

Thus giving the character virtual health.

Basically, dont go to hybrid. Just wait for the skills update. Keep levelling dude!! And you will need 5000 SP for the Manashield up to lvel 60.

TBH, DO IT!

That is the exact path I'm taking, although I'm really not sure why you would want to be like me... :P

Anyways, decide what hybrid you want to be, build it on character builder, and then add strength accordingly.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:16 pm
by MrFudge
INT Hybrids will benefit more from mana shields in my opinion.

even if mana shield can hide the fact that you have low HP, think of the hybrids that have higher HP - more invincible.

your MP is already high enough.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:30 pm
by kevv
MrFudge wrote:INT Hybrids will benefit more from mana shields in my opinion.

even if mana shield can hide the fact that you have low HP, think of the hybrids that have higher HP - more invincible.

your MP is already high enough.

Exactly, i'm actually doing the same thing also but with spear, pure int up to lvl 68 then all str until 80. I'll end up with 86% mag balance naked, then with about 50 str/int on gear and heuskal passive i'll have about 11k hp and 17k mp with 100% mag. balance.

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:33 pm
by Gman22
MrFudge wrote:
CobbZ wrote:To be honest, DONT do it.

In the next month or so, there will be a skills update, which includes a skill called mana shield.

The manashield is amazing. It lasts 2 minutes, and while on it takes a percentage of the damage hit and takes it away from your MP instead of HP.

So if the mana shield has a 50% level, and u get hit for 6000 damage, it takes 3000 from HP and 3000 from MP.

Thus giving the character virtual health.

Basically, dont go to hybrid. Just wait for the skills update. Keep levelling dude!! And you will need 5000 SP for the Manashield up to lvel 60.



and if he has 2,900 HP, he dies.
whereas if he's hybrid with 3,500 HP...he lives.

uh, a pure int has way more than 2900 hp at cap

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:33 pm
by mac
i guess i will put maybe 5-7 lvl of stat into str with abit help of str blues will help to boast hp more later in lvl high so i don't die in 1 or 2 hit crits by glaiver. thx for your help guys :) but i might change my mind, gotta check people's comment after using the buff maybe 1or2 month later after the update.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:28 am
by MrFudge
Gman22 wrote:
MrFudge wrote:
CobbZ wrote:To be honest, DONT do it.

In the next month or so, there will be a skills update, which includes a skill called mana shield.

The manashield is amazing. It lasts 2 minutes, and while on it takes a percentage of the damage hit and takes it away from your MP instead of HP.

So if the mana shield has a 50% level, and u get hit for 6000 damage, it takes 3000 from HP and 3000 from MP.

Thus giving the character virtual health.

Basically, dont go to hybrid. Just wait for the skills update. Keep levelling dude!! And you will need 5000 SP for the Manashield up to lvel 60.



and if he has 2,900 HP, he dies.
whereas if he's hybrid with 3,500 HP...he lives.

uh, a pure int has way more than 2900 hp at cap



what im saying is that an INT will always die before it runs out of MP.
the HP is just too low, so hybrid will benefit from mana shield because it has more than enough MP already.

if you die and still have like 6k mp left at the time of death, whats the point?

int hybrid spear nukes hard enough anyway.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:56 am
by San
MrFudge wrote:
Gman22 wrote:
MrFudge wrote:
CobbZ wrote:To be honest, DONT do it.

In the next month or so, there will be a skills update, which includes a skill called mana shield.

The manashield is amazing. It lasts 2 minutes, and while on it takes a percentage of the damage hit and takes it away from your MP instead of HP.

So if the mana shield has a 50% level, and u get hit for 6000 damage, it takes 3000 from HP and 3000 from MP.

Thus giving the character virtual health.

Basically, dont go to hybrid. Just wait for the skills update. Keep levelling dude!! And you will need 5000 SP for the Manashield up to lvel 60.



and if he has 2,900 HP, he dies.
whereas if he's hybrid with 3,500 HP...he lives.

uh, a pure int has way more than 2900 hp at cap



what im saying is that an INT will always die before it runs out of MP.
the HP is just too low, so hybrid will benefit from mana shield because it has more than enough MP already.

if you die and still have like 6k mp left at the time of death, whats the point?

int hybrid spear nukes hard enough anyway.


+1
i think that ints, even with mana shield, wont be able to do anything if they run out of hp before mp
hybrids, on the other hand, have the hp to compensate for the mass of mp they still have available

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 4:17 am
by E46Dinan
if you turn into a hybrid, you need to start adding str at lvl 70. if you are pure int and add str only from 75-80, u will not have nearly the hp of a true int hybrid, thus die quicker

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 10:55 am
by XMoshe
From what I read you guys dont know how strong pure int s/s with mana is >.> even without mana shield pure int s/s will be really strong lol but thats just my opinion..

If you want to be strong...switch to s/s and stay pure int, I dont think mana shield will really help for hybrids especially spears cuz they get more dmg..

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:13 am
by William-CL
Pure int are the strongest Characters ingame, but have the least life expectancy.