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Honry
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Post by Honry »

Everybody is starting int hybrids or str hyrbids (archer) atm.
Visit the kroean sro homepage and check the screenshots, ull find no hybrids there cause they suck. (most ppl there are ful str/int)

On each server are some strong hybrids cause of there sun or full blue equipment. That doesnt mean that this build is genarally strong.

Its not very difficult to kill someone when u r full sos/m/sun.

For example the 70/70 build. Theres 1 guy on aege i think who seems to be very strong. That doesnt mean that his build is better then other. He just has better equipment then others.

And the guy who wrote the tutorial about this build also said that hes not doing much pvp. For me that means that he 1. dont care about it or 2. isnt very strong. (its nearly the same be weak/dont do pvp)

Im full int and i can tell u that i have never found any hybrid that has a chance when hes wearing the same equipment.

And btw a lvl 80 full farmed hybrid would never confess that his build is weak. I can understand that u wont start over when u r lvl 80 full farmed or lvl 70 or something.

And then these dmg thread. There are only some hybrids with sosun weapons doing there crits. Find a lvl 80 full str bow give him sun weapon + full blue equipment and he will win this crappy competition.

btw there are so many bow hybrids cause strs change to glavie/blade when they notice that bow isnt so good for pvp.
And the people using glavie or blade as hybrid change to bow cause they think its better. And they can say that they are weak in pvp cause bow is not a pvp weap :roll:

I wrote this cause during the last time newbies starting hybrids cause some lvl 80 told them that this build is strong...70/70 is the best example..*pfff*
Then they lvl until 60,70 all the time with full blue equipment and sos cause of the money from there older chars...and then they wondering that they are becoming weak when theyre 72+ and everybody has full blue equipment.

And 1 more thing. This spear int hybrid on Venice has a +9 spear if im right. I think that sais everything. His gear i think is full blue +5/6 or sosun...

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Post by MastaChiefX »

You fail to understand the great thing about hybrids.
They excel more than pures with excellent gear.
For example
Pure INT with godly gear vrs hybrid int with godly gear. Guess who is better.
Oh yea, the "sucky" hybrid.
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Post by Honry »

You cant expect from every single hybrid to buy sun equipment...

What u think is what everybody is thinking...i start my hybrid need good equipment and will own every1...(everyone with bad equipment)...

And look at this dmg thread...
The noobs start to think that a str hybrid crit harder only cause some sun noobs in these thread can crit harder then a str with normal weapon...

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Post by kevv »

Try building a pure int spear, you'll get 1 skilled by a glavier. Not everyone likes to make proven builds either, you won't find out what build is good or not until you experiment with it yourself. Some people make bad builds because they don't care about pvp or about being the strongest in 1v1 battles.

My guild leader is hybrid spear and I can tell you it's definitely not a sucky build at all.
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Post by Kuribo »

I play with hybrids since long time ago... and i ever do it great in pvp with totally normal gears. Belive me or not, i really dont care... but u are talking about something u dont know.

And nobody said than str hybrid can crit higher than full str... but belive me, my normal hits (im hybrid str bow) are REALLY higher than full str... a lot higher than their crits compared with my crits.

I cant wait to the update... I want to know who can kill to a hybrid archer with that skills... :roll:

NOTE: I've never loose against a pure STR archer of my same lvl :P
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Post by Honry »

I never said pure int spear is good^^ pure int spear is not for pvp...

btw when euro will be updated ice archer will own euro chars cause they have 10 sec pot delay^^

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Post by kevv »

Honry wrote:I never said pure int spear is good^^ pure int spear is not for pvp...

btw when euro will be updated ice archer will own euro chars cause they have 10 sec pot delay^^

Honry wrote:Everybody is starting int hybrids


Then be more specific. Str hybrid archer doesn't seem that bad either, why don't you try building one and finding out for yourself?
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Post by Nenhunter »

i think he tried to make one and messed up XD

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Post by IguanaRampage »

Are you kidding me? Hybrids are incredible! Tell Pacific that int hybrids suck---I'm sure someone will quickly own you or a str glaive in front of you and prove you wrong..
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Post by Honry »

If hybrids are that good then pls tell me why i cant find any in ksro?
Most playsers there are full...if hybrids are that good why arent there more?

Int hybrids lvling much faster than glavie (pure str)...if they would be so much better in pvp then we would have more...

I know that most people in this board disagree cause they have hybrids too.

As I said before the best example for bad hybrids is bow...this 70 70 bow build hast no chance. Cant tank. Dont crit that hard.
But everybody is starting with this build cause one guy said that there is another one on aege that is strong with this build. Anybody knows his equipment??

And str hybrid archer. You have to be nearly 2:1 otherwise u just ruin ur phy bal and the dmg is nearly the same. (less phy bal not that much mag bal less hp lower crits)

@Nenhunter: you ever tried a pure char?

Most people dont know how much dmg difference is between 80 and 90% for example.

@IguanaRampage: I think u r hybrid too...as I said before if i would be hybrid i wouldnt say that my build is weak.

To all of u pls go to the kSro hp and look at the screen shots...there arent much hybrids..hmm maybe cause they suck?

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Post by EllisD »

Im guessing you didnt actually read the 70:70 topic. There were far more people doubting the build than endorsing it. In the end, there were a handfull of people who tried it, and stated that they didnt like it. 1 person, the topic starter, said it was "the best build" but his only proof, this Wind character, never stepped in to back him up, so that says something right off the bat.

This damage contest we have here is just a fun topic to see who can hit a mangyang hardest. Also, if you read through that, specifically the 8x cup, it looks like Crumpets is using a sun spear, Ayamie a sun bow, both getting beat by what....i'll let you take a look and see.

Anyone can have gear better than the next person. If you are blaming a loss on gear differences, then you should look into upgrading.

The point you are missing i think, is that not everyone plays this game to be a 1 man army, but play to have fun and be part of a good team. Everyone in that team has a role, and if they enjoy playing that role, then what does it matter to you?

Yes, i am a Hybrid. Am i the best PvP'r ever? No. Do i care? No.

Do i do what i do and have fun doing it? Hell Freakin Ya


EDIT: Oh, and BTW, if hybrids suck so much, why are you making one?

Honry wrote:Use spear as main weapon skill and do 80-85% mag from now on^^

Im doing the same atm with my char.
Very nice pvp and also good at pvm
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Post by IguanaRampage »

Dude, #1 I don't think the 70:70 build is all that great. But also, I am pure int in this character and I hate it. I am going to hybridize as soon as possible I really can't stand pure int unless in S/S with an awesome protector set.
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Post by Honry »

I was thinking about going hybrid...and im lvl 47 now and it sucks.
Until 32 or smth the hybrid was really good but later it sucks...
My int char is much better...

And i had a lvl 57 70 70 bow too^^

I know what im talking about. And btw in dont say that hybrids are bad at all.
I only say that they arent as good as pure chars in pvp. To me it looks like that everybody in this forum is hybrid...and all noobs start hybrids cause they think theyre strong.

This 70/70 makes a lot of fun but not in pvp.

@dmg thread: Hm... liquid has pt, right?

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Post by _Sir_Thalas_ »

<< edited.. criticism is welcome but no calling names. - cin >>

Pds: I'm not Hyb. I don't like soo much hybs (sorry to those hybs), 70:70 is pretty fun and better(just between bows builds). Int hybs are pretty good because their hp. etc etc etc etc

AS A RESUME!: HYBS DON'T SUCK, IF U DON'T LIKE THEM JUST KEEP LVLING UR PURE AS ME

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Post by cin »

Honry wrote:ull find no hybrids there cause they suck. (most ppl there are ful str/int)


ull find no people here that agree with you cause your arguments "suck".
(most ppl here have knowledge and experience of the game)

hybrids can be strong if played right. you say that its all about gear, but the
same goes for pures. idk man there are so many arguments to prove wrong
here that i am just going to lock this because this will bring people who want
to start a new char on the wrong track.

and lol @ bow is not a pvp weap.. you do some research before you post
anything like this again. thnx.

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