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After new skills, Pure STR vs. Pure INT vs. Hybrid
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:42 pm
by Fyre
I've heard about the new skills coming out for max leveled players, so I have a question.
In purely a PvP sense, who do you think will come out on top at the max level with those new skills everyone talks about: Pure INT, Pure STR, or hybrids?
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:24 pm
by DS^
well, I have no idea but there are people saying that pure str bow will do very well. Because they are gonna have stun+kb
but MAYBE I think it still will be pure str glavier or blader
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 5:57 pm
by Stress
Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:08 pm
by shadowman20875
tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.
hybrid s/s ftw
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:17 pm
by borat2
heavy hybrids (2:1 or close to it) will get stronger and stronger each new skill and level.
I should try contacting some people on redsea asking if li_ke_xuan added more str to his hybrid that would be very interesting if it was that will be one of the few hybrids with sosun gear vs sosun pure str and sosun pure int.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:20 pm
by Stress
shadowman20875 wrote:tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.
hybrid s/s ftw
Hybrid s/s won't even scratch a glaive with it's miserably low damage. You need to be almost pure INT to be succesful as a swordsman. Spears can hybridize, however.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 6:38 pm
by flexo
tiglari51 wrote:shadowman20875 wrote:tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.
hybrid s/s ftw
Hybrid s/s won't even scratch a glaive with it's miserably low damage. You need to be almost pure INT to be succesful as a swordsman. Spears can hybridize, however.
+1 hybrid s/s plz.. that can't even get a scratch on pile of butter. Worthless build.
Imo pure int will be the best.. cause with the new ice skills pure int will be able to tank .. even against pure str's.. ^^
and for everybody who didn't see the video I'm talking about...check out the pure int at about 3min in the vid... it takes 2 archers and 2 bladers to take him down. That's pretty sweet.. i wouldn't go against 4 pure str's right now..^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7YEPSfsk4
And after pure int.. or maybe even above.. will come pure str bow... cause of the new skills for that.. insane .. i'd be so happy if i was that build.. they use to be p.ussy's.. but they will rise.. after the new skills..right to the top ^^
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:34 pm
by Rainigul
shadowman20875 wrote:tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.
hybrid s/s ftw
+1
Hybrids are gonna win. High damage + high hp + high mp + mana shield + block + KD = Total ownage.
People who say sword hybrid is weak obviously never saw me

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:20 pm
by Disconn3cted
hybrid s/s will be strong with 4 stabs and i dont know why people say its dmg is so bad i do 4.5k to glaviers with nukes and 2.6k a stab
at lvl 60 naked magic balance only 80% (98% with my items) hp 5200
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:43 pm
by IceCrash
tiglari51 wrote:shadowman20875 wrote:tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.
hybrid s/s ftw
Hybrid s/s won't even scratch a glaive with it's miserably low damage. You need to be almost pure INT to be succesful as a swordsman. Spears can hybridize, however.
at lvl 90 cap, ull see hybrid spears that arent rich geting outdamaged quite easily, + dont forget there will be 4 stabs, thats about, lets say, 8k+? with new kd 5k+? i presume?
Without beeing touched. Beeing able to tank.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 9:49 pm
by IguanaRampage
flexo wrote:tiglari51 wrote:shadowman20875 wrote:tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.
hybrid s/s ftw
Hybrid s/s won't even scratch a glaive with it's miserably low damage. You need to be almost pure INT to be succesful as a swordsman. Spears can hybridize, however.
+1 hybrid s/s plz.. that can't even get a scratch on pile of butter. Worthless build.
Imo pure int will be the best.. cause with the new ice skills pure int will be able to tank .. even against pure str's.. ^^
and for everybody who didn't see the video I'm talking about...check out the pure int at about 3min in the vid... it takes 2 archers and 2 bladers to take him down. That's pretty sweet.. i wouldn't go against 4 pure str's right now..^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7YEPSfsk4And after pure int.. or maybe even above.. will come pure str bow... cause of the new skills for that.. insane .. i'd be so happy if i was that build.. they use to be p.ussy's.. but they will rise.. after the new skills..right to the top ^^
Ints will have to sacrifice weapon/fire tree though. And if you think hybrid s/s is bad, well, how many have you seen? Cuz there are some great s/s hybrids out there.
Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 10:59 pm
by flexo
well i'd say 15 and like 4 are friends of mine.
but if you say so maybe they all played it wrong and have i never met a good one

serously doubt it though

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:14 am
by flexo
Rainigul wrote:shadowman20875 wrote:tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.
hybrid s/s ftw
+1
Hybrids are gonna win. High damage + high hp + high mp + mana shield + block + KD = Total ownage.
People who say sword hybrid is weak obviously never saw me

yeah abviously not..lol
but your little calculation has a few flaws, here is a little correction
little higher dmg + little higher hp + little higher mp +mana shield + block + KD = average build that's not real good in anything.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:55 am
by Rainigul
decently higher dmg + little higher hp + very large mp +mana shield + block + KD = Very Very good, although it's not necessarily the best, though still better than everything except for gms

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:26 am
by flexo
Rainigul wrote:decently higher dmg + little higher hp + very large mp +mana shield + block + KD = Very Very good, although it's not necessarily the best, though still better than everything except for gms

lol everything axcept gm
well i'm just gonna say: that's your opion and I haven't seen anybody on Rome server that convinced me to even think slightly in that direction. But apparently there are ppl that know how to build and play a hybrid, I just haven't seen any.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:32 am
by TwelveEleven
If it's a group battle pure int will pwn..
1v1 I think it'll be exciting, outcome will differ every time.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:06 pm
by Stefaab
i'm for the str archers
and that new skill looks good

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:14 pm
by taintofsleep
Stefaab wrote:i'm for the str archers
and that new skill looks good

Yeah, I am especially excited about the kb... lol that rapes
Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:41 pm
by bakafish
Wouldn't STR archer get out damaged by the hybrid archers?
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:21 am
by flexo
BakaFish wrote:Wouldn't STR archer get out damaged by the hybrid archers?
maybe on 1 hit. But if you take the average then it won't cause archers do a lot of crit and pure str crit are higher....
not sure about this though.. just what the theory says^^
Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 5:24 am
by zephyr
gonna have to go with hybrid int s/s here
quad stab+crits are too good to pass up
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 9:49 pm
by HertogJan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J7YEPSfsk4
Guy in the vid. looks like a glavier to me =|
Besides, after update prob bow. I can kill most of the people i fight against, give me kb and stun and I will whoop yoo ass =)
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:34 pm
by Da_Realest
Any type of bow build will benefit from the update more than any other build.
Heavy str hybrid bows will be one of the biggest threats to strs since they can now stun and knockback with a higher normal damage than a pure str bow. New books of anti devil also means higher chances of criticals.
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 10:36 pm
by BaronSengir
blah blah blah
i say pure int bow will rape /sarcasm
and the ppl who say hybrids will own hahaha believe me or not but once it uncaps and with new skllls you will find out that your build is crap its gonna be the pures that will shine
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:24 pm
by Rainigul
flexo wrote:Rainigul wrote:decently higher dmg + little higher hp + very large mp +mana shield + block + KD = Very Very good, although it's not necessarily the best, though still better than everything except for gms

lol everything axcept gm

well i'm just gonna say: that's your opion and I haven't seen anybody on Rome server that convinced me to even think slightly in that direction. But apparently there are ppl that know how to build and play a hybrid, I just haven't seen any.

I hope you're not being sarcastic, though I'm 90% sure you are.
Hybrid swords are awesome.
Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:27 pm
by Vortexx
Rainigul wrote:shadowman20875 wrote:tiglari51 wrote:Hybrid INT spears will be strong. Very strong.
hybrid s/s ftw
+1
Hybrids are gonna win. High damage + high hp + high mp + mana shield + block + KD = Total ownage.
People who say sword hybrid is weak obviously never saw me

Where did you people heard it's a mana shield? Or is it another rumor..
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:59 am
by IguanaRampage
flexo wrote:well i'd say 15 and like 4 are friends of mine.
but if you say so maybe they all played it wrong and have i never met a good one

serously doubt it though

well yeah most of them suck I'll give you that, but Xone and _Medea_ on Tibet were incredible, with fairly good gear and pretty pimped balances.

Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:04 am
by Slayer007
its gonna be pure str bow because we get kb, stun and we already got awesome crits....with phantom maxxed we will be unstopable and glavies will be uber strong to..as for hybrids they are horrilbe and in pvp right now i can go afk or almost every hybrid lmao and i can ow nthem in pvp even with my 7 gap hahahahaha
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 10:45 am
by HertogJan
Slayer007 wrote:its gonna be pure str bow because we get kb, stun and we already got awesome crits....with phantom maxxed we will be unstopable and glavies will be uber strong to..as for hybrids they are horrilbe and in pvp right now i can go afk or almost every hybrid lmao and i can ow nthem in pvp even with my 7 gap hahahahaha
I pee on arrogant people. You might pwn as much as you say, just say it otherwise ^^
Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 11:49 am
by flexo
BaronSengir wrote:blah blah blah
i say pure int bow will rape /sarcasm
and the ppl who say hybrids will own hahaha believe me or not but once it uncaps and with new skllls you will find out that your build is crap its gonna be the pures that will shine
like it ain't like that already...
no need to wait for the cap .. just look now... and at the cap you will really have a worthless char..
well not all hybrid.. but at least 95%
